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Author Topic: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  (Read 100268 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2021, 10:03:45 PM »
A-T-L-A-N ? Who is that ? Remembers me,by name, "The Samurai",Perry Rhodan lecture .
I hope that by reading the audience did not get mutated,like some "Sternenfahrer"-Protagonists !

When You are in contact with him,best greetings !
'Night side forces'  or permanent 'day sight forces' to 'night side' by Tesla/Fessenden  transmission technology,wireless , in the future .


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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #91 on: June 11, 2021, 10:07:37 PM »
Also  https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ even with C.O.P. 80 ( up to  333) is not OU !

This is not ordinary pump or fridge that just moves heat around, this generates 20kWh of heat from 250 watt input, so yea, great OU.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #92 on: June 11, 2021, 10:14:53 PM »
This is not ordinary pump or fridge that just moves heat around, this generates 20kWh of heat from 250 watt input, so yea, great OU.
Thank You.nix85,for Your statement about " not/OU" ,You make me glad and satisfied and ready for the weekend !
Das Werk ward vollbracht !

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2021, 10:20:12 PM »
Thank You.nix85,for Your statement about " not/OU" ,You make me glad and satisfied and ready for the weekend !
Das Werk ward vollbracht !

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What lol. Are you saying that generating 20kWh of heat with 250w input is not OU?

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2021, 10:57:10 PM »
I am really understanding "nix"( saxonic for : nothing) in the comparison context ,
when 9 KWh heat output bei 1,5 KWh electric input :  is not "surplus ratio/OU"
when 20 KWh heat and 200 Wh electric motor and 50 Watth controler input :  is " surplus ratio/OU" !
You will have time to answer Your own  contradictory statements/comments !


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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #95 on: June 11, 2021, 11:04:49 PM »
First of all, for convenience of all the readers, use proper English.

There is nothing contradictory in my statements but you clearly cannot discern between moving heat around and heat GENERATION.

Can you comprehend the essential difference between the two concepts.

If it was one and the same no one would complain about winter electricity bills.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #96 on: June 12, 2021, 12:45:58 AM »
Nix
Proper “English “ ?
Lanca is what he is ( probably writes better than me ) ..... however ... what is this “weekend time off“ stuff ??
 I guarantee the Atlan..iens had no such thing !!
No rest from saving planet ... no days off ( without written submittal 2 weeks notice )
( must find somebody to take place ..)

Also ,
Infinity SAV ... 250 watts in 20kw out ?
No advertising for unproven claims
1st party endorsement, happy users and visit allowed for verification /independent test lab !
Otherwise just gossip column ( comic books)
Fellows,
Just one 1st hand reproducible/ replicatable anomaly!
Just one , thousands of open source replicators would surely clear the bench!

Just one will do
Sincerely
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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #97 on: June 12, 2021, 01:27:13 AM »
I'm quite convinced InfinitySav are genuine but of course, that is just my opinion.

But that is not the issue, IF their heater works as claimed that IS OU.

I am not judging lanca for confusing heat exchange with heat generation, many of these concepts are very confusing and mistakes happen.

I for example was fully convinced when starting this thread there is power amplification in LC tank, but it turns out when voltage is amplified current is reduced and vice versa. This is counterintuitive cause in general you can pump energy into resonant system as long as you supply enough to compensate for losses and bit more energy will grow and grow until it explodes just like glass shattered by it's resonant frequency or a swing that you gently push periodically keeps getting ever higher.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2021, 01:57:09 AM »
What lol. Are you saying that generating 20kWh of heat with 250w input is not OU?
______________________________________________________
Before you start read the history below watch this :

Here is one of first videos about  Svobodian Andrey experiments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0
In  video below  I'm explaining  nonsense of closed system  expected to create any access  energy.
https://youtu.be/4yoxX5ujhig?t=732
All of us: Tariel Kapanadze and I  and my partner in research - we are coupling in process of conversion, into energy source that  we don't have to pay  for .
But that is no "OU" and no magic. It is Free Energy - means energy that  didn't require to be paid  for.
______________________________________________________



Infinity SAV - Technology  described  by nix85
History files:

From Koroliovka in Ukraine to Seoul in South Korea, and to the coffin... and than to Macil Group  Kenia Africa  under name MH-10 Magnetic generator.



Few facts:
In 2011 Tariel Kapanadze after poisoning  by some Russians took my advice and was able to be alive  for another ~10 years.
Svobodian Andrey  Moldovan SAW. died in September 2020 "presumably" from fume of air conditioner.
-But another version is that  like most of Russian  he was  abusing  alcohol and died from led acid  batteries  he was charging.
-The third version is that in Russia despite  of all science  behind some people in power, may be convinced that black cat is bad luck
or  that Svobodian Andrey had a device named by nick85 "overunity." and that is enough for them...
 In 2017 Svobodian Andrey started to experiment with  heat conversion devices.
 Here  is much much  earlier version of German patent  application:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/jggyqz/centrifugal_energy_generator_of_bullenergie_gmbh/


By  version of Monarh100 he was from in Ukraine  Village Korioliovka near  Kiev.
Few  words about  Svobodian Andrey :
He started to work  in Moldova on his project  for next 5 years till his death. He tried to work with Russians, but soon he found that
that  environment can only destroy projects and expectations.
He moved to  South  Korea  found investor  and and build there number of nice looking devices. called SAV
However  there was no known to me patents or  commercial  interest.

Two Russian bloggers
:
Andrey Tirtha and Monarh 100are fighting till today  about  Svobodian Andrey also  known as  Andrey Slobodyan.
Andrey Tirtha   supporting every nonsense BS. is just waste of your time  if you happened to speak Russian.
Monarh 100 is quite knowledgeable and he is against  everything  about Svobodian Andrey.
https://youtu.be/MH9Z6kVP8_M?t=221 in Russian.

Monarh 100  was supported by  very valuable educated  blogger:
Науч.Студия SERGEY KACHAN    ( Scientific Study Sergey Katchan)
additional material:
these videos  below contain all of the information but they are in Russian so  just skip it :
Все видео о разоблочении вечного двигателя Андрея Слабодяна
All video about the unmasking fake  of the perpetual motion machine by Andrey Slabodyan
https://youtu.be/hr1j3fhQOB8

https://youtu.be/vd1EMSgk7DA
https://youtu.be/0E3tfBPYihE
https://youtu.be/0YAXaBGBxHs


In 2019 Monarh100  found that  Svobodian Andrey  falsificated  diploma of Russian  PhD
For Russia fake is nothing new or nothing  uncommon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAXaBGBxHs ( in Russian)
Андрей Слободян  доктор наук, вот это поворот Andrey Slobodyan Doctor of Sciences
Translation: Andrey Slobodyan Doctor of Sciences, this is a twist .

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In 2019.  we have nice  video and promotion :
Infinity SAV Seoul South Korea
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/
and  we see  some comments:
https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/is-this-generator-thing-for-real.157525/here 
-all that is important to us is just  a date September 10 2019
This was 1 year  till  his death.

 in  this page:
http://infinitysavwa.com/mg10-magnetic-generator/
we see promotion  and of a "Generator" that from 2019  was not yet   manufactured till today, ..
But all you need is to prepay for it... :)
However when we go to list of products we can't find this generator  or any information about it.
 https://macilgroup.com/shop/#page-content

Conclusion:
Some people are naive,
Some others  are  often called "idiots" in  science.
Some of that "idiots" want to look educated  so they go to forum and "shine ...."
Some of them are not so much idiots  it is  just money  making them active in  trashing  level  of this forum .
But how come lankaIV was able  to  be fooled that much to start believe in that nonsense.
How it  was possible ?

Simple question lankaIV can you find me  just one patent  of fake PhD Slobodian Andrey can you.. ? 
For example I'm giving you two random  patents that have never  been approved:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en
- just  because   perpetual motion  and OU is not patentable.

Happy preorder: :)
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/
and read here:
from word:Protection
http://infinitysavwa.com/mg10-magnetic-generator/
No patents, just.. BS ,,

opinion expressed is entirely my own.

Wesley
« Last Edit: June 12, 2021, 04:04:39 AM by stivep »

Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2021, 02:29:59 AM »
If true it's sad such young man died, i doubt he was even 45.

What is wrong with you, stivep1, here you attack OU and anyone "believing" in it, yet your youtube channel is dedicated to promotion of OU.

Are you some kind of double personality in one body or?

InfinitySav magnetic generator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpe6biJDm8o

Andrey's first small device

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uo092W8hYw



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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2021, 02:37:38 AM »
nix85,You are me destroying my freetime (Thanks God,that´s Friday :P  : It was so .....) Probably ,now: Saturdays Night Fever  ::)


" I am not judging lanca for confusing heat exchange with heat generation, many of these concepts are very confusing and mistakes happen."


Why shall I confuse "heat exchange with heat generation" ?


a heat exchanger -per se- is a ceramic(metal is ceramic) plates/tubes arrangement,electricity-free,eventually coupled with ventilator [/size]

                                          eta or efficiency : <1 or  <100%


when You look to the smartbox image below You will understand the physical process :


a heat pump circuit with heat exchanger (+ dehumidifier effect)


https://lirp.cdn-website.com/04f32754/dms3rep/multi/opt/smartbox-960w.jpg

https://patents.justia.com/patent/9664404


The first and the second heat exchanger elements 7 and 8 are included in a Carnot circuit 9, which further contains a compressor 10, an expansion device 11, an evaporator/condensor 7 and a condensor/evaporator 8. To change the direction of the heat flow through the Carnot circuit, a four-way valve 12 is fitted. To change the direction of the medium flow of the Carnot circuit through heat exchanger element 7, a four-way valve 13 is fitted, so that counterflow operation is always possible.




Such a concept I saw circa 15/20 years back for the first time ,developped by a british company named IMI, industrial prize awarded !

house central heating/cooling/air refreshing with outer flowing used warm air stream with incoming colder fresh cold air stream the heat interchange/exchange ,or reverse the stream heat exchange in summer.


And nix85,by Infinitysav their boiler we are treating the medium,an oil,with friction and ( as heat effect :volume gain) compression to get
a. a greater 1 C.O.P.  work process b. this claimed C.O.P. 80

probably comparing with C.O.P. 10 claimed "thermal friction boiler Perun "  https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11161


Think in hand-moved air-pumps (for footballs/soccer ball inflating ) and how fast the air-tube can/is becoming warm/hot !








stivep :


I am sometimes "serious"-fool (in local behaviour : some interestant-nice-fresh girls arround ;) ) but never fooled by Infinitysav or whomelse their products !


I only write that when we see commercial heating/cooling products with conventional drives equipped it is possible to improve these by minimum more than 5 times in their process C.O.P. !

Nothing less and nothing more !


Simple question lankaIV can you find me  just one patent  of fake PhD Slobodian Andrey can you.. ?
For example I'm giving you two random  patents that have never  been approved:


https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en


https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en


- just  because   perpetual motion  and OU is not patentable.



the first,as seen by number kind : utility model


the second, technical standart application : 2006 granted    ::)  " and OU is not patentable."
Jesse McQueen
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/038476291/publication/US7095126B2?q=pn%3DUS7095126B


Infinitysav listening patents : https://infinitysav.com/patents/

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #101 on: June 12, 2021, 02:40:56 AM »
Lanca you wrote this InfinitySav heater is not OU, do you understand that if it works as claimed it has to be OU?

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2021, 02:59:16 AM »
nix85,use the expression free energy !


When Infinitysav by 250 VA electric input reach more than 250 W output heat : fine !


When                     250 VA                                               750 W                 : conventional heat pump average equivalent


When                     250 VA                                             1250 W                 : optimal PM-magnet drive heat pump average


When                     250 VA                                             5000 W                 : ideal T1/2 and ideal heat pump C.O.P. reached




from the old peswiki page : https://peswiki.com/directory:cavitation-heaters 50-60% over input = 160 % efficiency often claimed !


                                            8000 % ( Prof.Kanarev 3000%) is anextreme !


Probably You know this,or not : https://de.calameo.com/read/004838413975ced7310a8

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2021, 02:59:18 AM »
What is wrong with you, stivep1, here you attack OU and anyone "believing" in it, yet your youtube channel is dedicated to promotion of OU.

WHAT IS TRUE IN  Free Energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE

Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2021, 03:27:05 AM »
LOL, few posts back you were justifying term overunity, now you want me to use term free energy. No, you keep using the term OU.

And why are you now using VA unit for apparent power when we are talking about real power.

Again you are mixing apples and pears. Heat pump COP > 1 simply means it doesn't take much energy to TRANSPORT substantial amount of heat energy. If you are GENERATING heat, than according to convention COP will always be less than 1 cause there are always losses. InfinitySav device is generating heat, according to convention it is not possible to generate 251Wh of energy from 250Wh, let alone 20kWh.