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Author Topic: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  (Read 36398 times)

Offline kajunbee

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2021, 05:27:40 PM »
Thanks Lanca, I was going to ask for analogy but you beat me to it.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2021, 05:36:50 PM »
But : the fired-papers will not get You ,in REAL WORLD ,


but Your team collegue ::)



because he demands 15 US$/h and You only 12 US$/h  8)


cogito ergo sum


Happy ,employed ,weekend wishing


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p.s. ; thinking is movement ,here for-or backward ?
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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2021, 05:42:18 PM »
Maybe I hit him in knee with a stick to slow him down. LOL.

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Offline ramset

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2021, 05:54:33 PM »
An “ overunity” COP
You pick up one cement block carry it to
Same place as previous worker , except when you place it down there are
Two ... instead of one


COP > 2 ( a miracle !!


Boss will hug you ......world will wonder how ?
No one has ever shared how it’s done ...


Nor seen such a miracle ....( reproducible or replication !


Maybe not best or most accurate example but ......?


 

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2021, 06:02:10 PM »
I can see how that might score me some brownie points Ramset. I also think that’s a great way to describe it. If that doesn’t snap one into reality then nothing will.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2021, 06:13:25 PM »
You are right ,Chet ! ( You hidden ' Modernist')

Even Jesus,it is written( I think so),only multiplied ordinary fish and vine !
Probably he had a contract with the cement block industry or the components from cement is for multiplying too dry !?
Who knowes it,we have to work faster for the Jesus-time-back-machine,for asking and confirmation  !
There are not more important question/s than these/this !
Sincere,schoenes Wochenende

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Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2021, 07:49:56 PM »
Lanca, nothing about that heat collector is above COP 1 let alone 10, in English, Portuguese, German or Mandarin.

If you want COP 80 heater..

https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2021, 08:26:17 PM »
You are entertaining,are not You ?


What is for You the problem with :


"   nothing about that heat collector is       a. above COP 1       b. let alone 10,




- each NORMSTANDART Air-2-Air heat-pump has to reach in average in minimum C.O.P. 2




- there is no heat-exchanger,and will never exist,with eta greater/same 1


- yes,heat-pumps are heat collector ,from outside -heat in - (space heating function) or inside -heat out- (space  cooling function)


 in English, Portuguese, German or Mandarin " Kishuaheli ? As Tangerine dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK-lQY6U17c




Yes,it was bespoken several months back : ( was the inventor not killed or died by natural cause ?)


https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/  heat function,not cooling ! ( But is it not that we can melt by heat water to ice ?)


oil friction work C.O.P. 80 (200 W + 50 W controler) for up to 20 000 W output








10 000 RPM and 200 W rated power : a real good device for Ferreira capacitive winding motor experiments


200 W by ultra-low losts has the advantage of motor self-cooling !


At first from C.O.P.   80     (200+50) /20 000


to                         286     ( 20 +50) /20 000


to                         333     (10 + 50) /20 000




A coupling from several applications to reach C.O.P. > 1000 ,with heating and or cooling function ,non motive (mechanical movement)


                                          for You,nix85,acceptable ?


               Without "occult/esoteric" physics point of view and " If .......,then ......dreamings" ?!




I do not get any "pence" from this NL "heat collector" company,also not from  Infinitysav,but when somebody (private/commercial) offers a good/excellent solution I am the last(personal opinion  ::) ) to deny and not to use this device/method/process if available (ready-to-use/plan) and being costs-attractive !




Successfull weekend wishing


OCWL

Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2021, 08:30:30 PM »
Not as entertaining as you.

"The system COP is > 10, depending on the conditions."

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2021, 09:03:04 PM »
Not as entertaining as you.

"The system COP is > 10, depending on the conditions."


A C.O.P. ,

"coefficient of work performance" depends ,by conventional heat-pump technology,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance

The COP usually exceeds 1, especially in heat pumps, because, instead of just converting work to heat (which, if 100% efficient, would be a COP of 1), it pumps additional heat from a heat source to where the heat is required. Less work is required to move heat than for conversion into heat, and because of this, heat pumps, air conditioners and refrigeration systems can be more than 100% efficient.


https://learnmetrics.com/coefficient-of-performance/


Theoretical maximum COP is calculated like this:


COP  heat pump = 298K/(298K-287K) = 27,09

So, in theory, a heat pump can have a COP even above 20. Nonetheless, the real COP of a heat pump in practice is a lot lower.







from internal thermo-cryo dynamical circuit temperature/pressure

and outside circuit/space/ambient temperature,pressure !


heating out-in /reverse: cooling in-out   process parts :
 to see here


                https://theengineeringmindset.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Heat-pump-schematic-how-a-heat-pump-works.png


             Have You a fridge: the above circuit is in these cooling box/chamber integrated ,look and understand !





In the NL,there they have in summer up to 30°C positive and in winter up to 20°C negative , 50 °K temperature amplitude/spread !




                                         physical state change =                   condition-dependence !




 








Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2021, 09:18:05 PM »
"The COP usually exceeds 1, especially in heat pumps, because, instead of just converting work to heat (which, if 100% efficient, would be a COP of 1), it pumps additional heat from a heat source to where the heat is required. Less work is required to move heat than for conversion into heat, and because of this, heat pumps, air conditioners and refigeration systems can be more than 100% efficient."

Great, but why did you mention heat pumps, fridges, they just move heat around, they are no OU devices.

Was it just in your style of crumble everything in, related and unrelated.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2021, 09:21:17 PM »
Also  https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ even with C.O.P. 80 ( up to  333) is not OU !

TARGET/MAXIME : the greatest possible return with the least possible effort

Why mentioned ?


Because this technology,in use as refridgerator = mostly common, will be one from the future existent low-e reaching techniques !

Before : how many Wh per annum 2021 each world-habitant non-renewable use ?


After   : how many renewable Wh each world-habitant (preview 2100 : 11 000 Mio. citizen)  will need/use/has available  !?

Kyoto-conference,Kopenhagen,Paris contracts !


Sincere


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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2021, 09:38:20 PM »
In the future expanding/contracting gas will not be used for cooling/heating, it will be done by night side forces as it was in days of Atlan 13,000 years ago.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2021, 10:01:45 PM »
Lanca
You need separate section for some of theses things !!
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/


I will remove comment


this is on forum ( here already )??
Maybe bump answer there ( or other


What happened to them ?