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Author Topic: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  (Read 78761 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #450 on: July 01, 2022, 05:29:18 PM »
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL « Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.

please respond to this particular post before we go forward.

1.Please  provide the link. to the picture
"interpreting 4-symetry in electrical engineering terms"
2."potential regauging,"- what is it and what do you understand by that?
3. "virtual energy flux"  - what is it and what do you understand by that?
4. " forcefieldflux"          - what is it and what do you understand by that?
5.  please explain the process of "virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux"
6. please explain the role of the magnets in .5 where Magnets can do free work

please provide the answer in numerical order and in the format:
example: ."potential regauging," is .....
Wesley
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Offline alan

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #451 on: July 01, 2022, 05:34:12 PM »
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL « Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.
Wesley
please respond to this particular post before we go forward.

1.Please  provide the link. to the picture
"interpreting 4-symetry in electrical engineering terms"
2."potential regauging,"- what is it and what do you understand by that?
3. "virtual energy flux"  - what is it and what do you understand by that?
4. " forcefieldflux"          - what is it and what do you understand by that?
5.  please explain the process of "virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux"
6. please explain the role of the magnets in .5 where Magnets can do free work

please provide the answer in numerical order and in the format:
example: ."potential regauging," is .....

Wesley
It's nonsensical FE mumbo lingo, except for 6. Just think. 
Magnet pull into movement, magnet force add energy. Nature delivers energy, user inputs to make it undone.   
Magnet pushed to another magnet with equal poles facing: first user inputs energy, then after release, nature returns (spring-like potential).

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #452 on: July 01, 2022, 05:59:01 PM »
https://youtu.be/X6143k9-epo
Why, when I bring a permanent magnet, does the vibration transducer tongue vibrating at the frequency of its mechanical resonance increase vibrations?  ;)

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #453 on: July 01, 2022, 06:20:10 PM »
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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #454 on: July 01, 2022, 07:03:03 PM »
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I'll repeat them: my main point was movement, work, energy that a permanent magnet adds to an object without apparent input
and the broken symmetry of an electric dipole that's doing the same to particles: asserting a force on charges, attracting them, adding energy and movement, without the dipole being consumed.

I agree and the laws state that it takes energy to produce a magnetic field but not to maintain it ie. a permanent magnet.
I also built a permanent electromagnet based on principals similar to the ones you have outlined. All that is required is to keep the free electrons in a perpetual circular motion just like in an atom. If an atom can do it then so can we, it's just a matter of working through the problem.

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Gravity does the same: if a meteor enters the gravitational influence of the earth and it falls to ground, it accelerates by F=m*g, and energy is added by 0,5mv^2 and totalled by W=F*s,  energy has been added without gravitational potential  being "consumed".

In fact, the gravitational potential increases as more mass is added to the Earth. That's strange isn't it?, the Earth produces a gravitational field which attracts more mass which produces more Earth and gravitational field attracting more mass... and so on. So here we have a real world example of growth or self-action where the thing producing a force always attracts more stuff to produce more force thus energy. Oh wait, crap, we just proved the Earth does what all the brain dead critics claimed cannot be done. How could they have missed something so obvious?. I mean there literally standing right on top of the thing they claim cannot happen... I call that effect gross incompetence.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #455 on: July 01, 2022, 07:04:18 PM »
OMG :o
Discussion went banana..

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #456 on: July 01, 2022, 07:26:11 PM »
It's nonsensical FE mumbo lingo, except for 6. Just think. 
you didn't provide link .1
you refused to respond, in the format of answer, scientists would respect.
As far a nonsense it is your own nonsense, and I repeat it one more time:
Free energy is potential regauging, because a potential can do free work, they convert virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux. Magnets can do free work, the balance gets even when you put in energy afterwards to separate the magnets.

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Magnet pull into movement, magnet force add energy.
Nature delivers energy, user inputs to make it undone.   
Magnet pushed to another magnet with equal poles facing: first user inputs energy, then after release, nature returns (spring-like potential).
Well, the answer is that the magnet does not actually exert any power at all, apart from introducing the force.
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“magnetism is extremely useful for converting energy from one form to another.,
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“Magnetism is a force, but it has no energy of its own,
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/

Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #457 on: July 01, 2022, 07:36:58 PM »
Well, the answer is that the magnet does not actually exert any power at all, apart from introducing the force.

thank you

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #458 on: July 01, 2022, 07:39:35 PM »
In fact, the gravitational potential increases as more mass is added to the Earth. That's strange isn't it?, the Earth produces a gravitational field which attracts more mass which produces more Earth and gravitational field attracting more mass... and so on. So here we have a real world example of growth or self-action where the thing producing a force always attracts more stuff to produce more force thus energy. Oh wait, crap, we just proved the Earth does what all the brain dead critics claimed cannot be done. How could they have missed something so obvious?. I mean there literally standing right on top of the thing they claim cannot happen... I call that effect gross incompetence.

Regards
AC

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #459 on: July 01, 2022, 07:41:40 PM »
Well, the answer is that the magnet does not actually exert any power at all, apart from introducing the force.

thank you
Why can’t magnetism be used as a source of energy?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/
David Cohen-Tanugi, vice president of the MIT Energy Club and a John S. Hennessy Fellow in MIT’s Materials Science and Engineering department
Wesley :)

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #460 on: July 01, 2022, 07:47:25 PM »
Why can’t magnetism be used as a source of energy?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/
Wesley :)
Why every BLDC motor contains permanent magnets?
Because permanent magnets makes that motor much more efficient.


Why nobody came to idea to use permanent magnet plus air gap in flyback?
Have no idea. ::)


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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #461 on: July 01, 2022, 07:53:46 PM »
Why can’t magnetism be used as a source of energy?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/
David Cohen-Tanugi, vice president of the MIT Energy Club and a John S. Hennessy Fellow in MIT’s Materials Science and Engineering department
Wesley :)
 
Would this work?? 
a coil on an iron rod: electromagnet.  energy is stored in the coil after magnetizing and released as current during demagnetizing. Energy magnetizing=demagnetizing. 
While it is magnetized and the field is there, it pulls an iron piston: work done. Magnetic piston means Lenz   
Does this decrease the demagnetizing energy?
2 kind of energies: conservative and force-field. 
Work of attraction in a force field doesn't consume the potential that creates the field.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #462 on: July 01, 2022, 08:00:25 PM »
While I am here, at least I don't believe you wasting your time.
I will not put you on the wrong path/
I will not waste your time, by redirecting your attention into some Russian B.S of desinformation.
Some of you may be disappointed, after 10  years or more of no replication of some Russian fakes in FE.
Ugliness of brainwash, poverty, corruption, theft, dictatorship, ever present  threatening, hate, racism, and  banditism of the largest Mafia in the world dressed into governmental uniform is unprecedented.


Tariel Kapanadze device checked by me in Tbilisi Georgia was not fake.
History of Akula and others was explained by me here:
 Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  « Reply #422 on: June 25, 2022, 05:25:16 PM »

Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #463 on: July 01, 2022, 08:03:37 PM »
alan
I agree and the laws state that it takes energy to produce a magnetic field but not to maintain it ie. a permanent magnet.
I also built a permanent electromagnet based on principals similar to the ones you have outlined. All that is required is to keep the free electrons in a perpetual circular motion just like in an atom. If an atom can do it then so can we, it's just a matter of working through the problem.

In fact, the gravitational potential increases as more mass is added to the Earth. That's strange isn't it?, the Earth produces a gravitational field which attracts more mass which produces more Earth and gravitational field attracting more mass... and so on. So here we have a real world example of growth or self-action where the thing producing a force always attracts more stuff to produce more force thus energy. Oh wait, crap, we just proved the Earth does what all the brain dead critics claimed cannot be done. How could they have missed something so obvious?. I mean there literally standing right on top of the thing they claim cannot happen... I call that effect gross incompetence.

Regards
AC
Thanks. Magnetic and electric fields are like gravitational fields, but using them causes the dipole that create them be decreased. 
The Daniel Cook battery and 'perpetual motion holder' are also nice examples. But it is hard to maintain an electromagnet with DC, current and thus B-field keep increasing linearly until saturation. That's why they use AC.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #464 on: July 01, 2022, 08:05:55 PM »
While I am here, at least I don't believe you wasting your time.
I will not put you on the wrong path/
I will not waste your time, by redirecting your attention into some Russian B.S of desinformation.
Some of you may be disappointed, after 10  years or more of no replication of some Russian fakes in FE.

Tariel Kapanadze device checked by me in Tbilisi Georgia was not fake.
History of Akula and others was explained by me here:
 Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  « Reply #422 on: June 25, 2022, 05:25:16 PM »

Wesley
 
So EM "free energy" (source being nature) is possible?