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Author Topic: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water  (Read 6546 times)

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2022, 01:40:02 PM »
To summarize all these patents, less energy is expended for the catalytic decomposition of water.
Than what we can get by burning the resulting hydrogen. Do I understand correctly?

Offline Sergh

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2022, 11:02:34 AM »
In the patents from the previous message, static methods for producing hydrogen are described.

A patent GEP20074038B from Kapanadze's homeland describes a dynamic method, which, according to the patent, has many times greater productivity.

Static hydrogen production method:

https://patents.google.com/patent/SU807584A1/en?oq=SU807584A1
English translation, after downloading, is need to add the file extension .pdf :

https://overunity.com/16440/hho-generation-using-high-frequency-electromagnetic-waves-on-water/dlattach/attach/173964/

Amount of Calcium Oxide Powder: 200 grams
The amount of water vapor present in the reactor: 50 grams
Pressure in the reactor: 0,87 atmospheres
(But about the pressure in this patent, it is not entirely clear. If you study other patents of this author, there are indications that in the process of preparing "calcium hydroxide" he lowered the pressure to 0.01 atmospheres)

Amount of hydrogen: 48 cubic centimeters of gas:  0,0043 grams hydrogen
                   
Dynamic hydrogen production method:
https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20074038B/en?oq=GEP20074038B
Abstract:
   A method comprises heating water vapor together with the catalyst at pressure 8,0-10,0 atm. The received mix is cooled during (3-5)х10-3sec. up to temperature 70,0-80,00С and simultaneously with it pressure is lower up to 0,5-0,7atm. Then by means of addition water vapor hydrogen is isolated and process is repeated.

English translation, .pdf:
https://overunity.com/16440/hho-generation-using-high-frequency-electromagnetic-waves-on-water/dlattach/attach/173965/

Amount of Calcium Oxide Powder: 200 grams
Pressure inside the reactor: 0,5 - 10 atmospheres
Temperature 70 - 400 Celsius
Water  100 ml

Amount of hydrogen: 0.66 - 0.72 % from the water, or  0.66 - 0.72 grams hydrogen, 7788 cubic centimeters of gas, 84 kilojoules if burned.

At idle, a running car engine consumes about 1 liter per hour.

1 liter of gasoline releases 44 megajoules of heat when burned. 84 kilojoules, obtained from the combustion of hydrogen, is enough to rotate the engine at idle for 7 seconds.
Presumably in this way there is enough energy to start and rotate the motor on this videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIMXgLuq6gA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUoY_qmBg-g

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2022, 06:26:40 PM »
Is it necessary to decompose water certainly  to hydrogen by your low-temperature catalytic methods?
Why not get another combustible substance from the water at once, for example, methanol or methane.

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2022, 08:03:33 PM »
Sirs
Here another odd claim ?


BTW thanks for all the info …hopefully when Tommy Reed gets back from working out of state
there can be Some testing of these claims at his topic here !
With his pressure chamber test bed .
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Below was shared at another forum,I did not ask poster for permission to share as it was not
His claim!
I probably will reach out for him regardless!
PPS
Now that I think of it I do remember a member here saying to add a tiny bit of benzene to water fuel
Experiments??



Offline kolbacict

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2022, 08:21:47 PM »
Maybe silane? Good thing. Even spontaneously ignites. ;)

Offline Sergh

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2022, 11:45:17 AM »
Hello!

Hydrogen and water are good because they do not create solid products in Redox reactions.
 Carbon or silicon will contaminate the aluminosilicate matrix.
But it's probably possible somehow.

https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2020/gc/c9gc02453k

Offline ramset

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Re: Low temperature catalytic thermolysis of water
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2022, 03:22:20 AM »
So I spoke again with a friend who read of this challenge!(Jerry V. at Peters open source forum)
Seems the Thomas Edison water fuel challenge
WAs an Ounce of secret green fluid
Mixed with one gallon of water
Ran an internal combustion engine !
Edison put out a very big reward for the time …to anyone who could tell him what this one ounce of Green fluid was ?
 A long time passed … no one came to answer the challenge ( successfully)
And he just published it
 
Acetylene mixed with acetone at 200 atmosphere
Fellow who shared this said “might need to cool it during the process “?


Go small at first !( samples)


Wonder how it “do what it do “ ??
Effects thermolysis ?
Or ….
 This one gonna be wild !
3000 psi ?  ( to make a solution from such a touchy soup


Hmm
Seems to share bits from the Brax peace collection
https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends
Shared by Johan here years ago


Respectfully
Chet K