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Author Topic: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.  (Read 20245 times)

MagnaProp

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Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« on: May 03, 2021, 06:24:02 AM »
I'm looking for a lenzless or lenz assisted motor. The three topics I have found so far are Thane Heins, Tinman's rotating transformer and OzSolarPower-Zero Back EMF pulse motor.

Is the Thane Heins design and the TM-rotating transformer basically the same thing? Or they accomplish the same effect but in two very different ways?

Any other motor ideas that I haven't listed that help remove or reduce negative effects from lenz?
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NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 03:20:48 PM »
Have you looked into Paul Babcock?

"Magnetic energy secrets" (Part 1) by Paul Babcok

A snippet: "Zero stating the inductor...reduced impedance effect...impedance is a product of Lenz's law, and we beat that, too. ...we use the motor coupling in space so we don't have flux cutting the windings...."
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MagnaProp

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2021, 08:44:17 AM »
I came across him before but didn't give it much of a thought. Didn't even play his video. I've now taken a second look at his video and find it rather interesting. So thank you for pointing me in that direction. Difficult to go through all the info that is out there, 99.9 percent of which appears to be bull, so I thank you again for the heads up on his work.
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NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2021, 10:05:36 PM »
I believe that Stan Meyer was also using the same flyback spikes to create his amp-restricted high voltage electric field to split water. One side negative and the other side rectified to positive.
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Difficult to go through all the info that is out there, 99.9 percent of which appears to be bull

The more info you absorb the more that your subconscious has to work with which results in more frequent and useful epiphanies.
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MagnaProp

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2021, 09:02:35 AM »
 Thanks again NdaClouDzzz. I will study the info you have provided.

I usually prefer more info than less but I took that route finding a generator build I would like to follow. Trying to speed up the search for a more efficient motor now since time goes by fast.
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NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2021, 06:57:57 AM »
Stan Meyer's EPG also addressed the lenz issue. The following link starts at Stan's discussion: https://youtu.be/_-hY09qYfhw?t=1858
                                                                      Part Two of EPG discussion: https://youtu.be/-T20Wmjce2E?t=593
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MagnaProp

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2021, 11:22:56 AM »
Very interesting. The key appears to happen in your second link at (14:35 - 15:01). I don't understand it though. He has his magnetic gas going around in a tubular non-magnetic coil, and coils are wrapped around that. I don't really understand his explanation of why the EMF is now reduced by going away from the coil in a right angle?

Attached is my drawing of what it sounds like his set up is.
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kajunbee

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2021, 03:27:20 PM »
There’s something I’m missing here myself. A permanently magnetized gas circulating in a tube. This would be the same as a coil wrapped around a toroidal permanent magnet. And then spinning the toroid inside the coil. Imagine two semi circular permanent magnets connected together with coil wound around them. Spinning the magnet inside the coil will not induce a voltage in coil will it??? My basic understanding is that the magnetic field has to change, expanding outwards/inwards) from the core. As I see it lenz law is defeated because there is no voltage induced in coil. Not much use in that is it. Maybe I’m missing something, I haven’t watched all of the video.
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NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2021, 07:08:00 PM »
I haven't put any real effort into researching any of Stan's devices, but I have no doubt of the validity of using a high voltage electric field to produce hydrogen, just as Stan clearly pointed out in his house lecture ( https://youtu.be/fxciCZHHAn4?t=1612 ). There are many ways of producing a high voltage electric field, Stan's way is just one way*. With regard to Stan's EPG, there's info everywhere. Here's one link: https://www.nikola-truck.com/epg-electric-particle-generator

See also, Chapter 2 "Gyroscopic Actions" in THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN https://archive.org/details/TheEnergyMachineOfJosephNewman8thEdition/page/n11/mode/2up

*For example, see Don Smith's Ambient Energy Generator https://overunity.com/18282/a-king-21-build-discussion-investigation/msg536914/#msg536914 (Reply #57) and EFUSystem PDF https://overunity.com/18239/the-solution/msg552241/#msg552241 (Reply #64)
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NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2021, 05:31:45 AM »
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NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2021, 07:03:04 AM »
For those interested in exploring Don Smith's Ambient Energy Generator and the EFU Pdf (see links above), see the following video by Bruno Vk for some important insight:                       
   https://youtu.be/6gVHyHNADcI
The diode is very important. Also read the comments, as in my opinion, the worlds leading expert on Don Smith tech gives valuable insight there!!!!!!
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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2021, 06:27:12 PM »
https://youtu.be/p8xYUDiSGDk

This seems to be and example of water splitting without electrical current through the saltwater.
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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2021, 08:25:38 AM »
What is magnetic gas?
I know there are magnetic fluids ...
By the way, I would like to talk about this separately.
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kajunbee

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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2021, 05:56:12 PM »
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Re: Motor search for lenz less or lenz assisted.
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2021, 06:29:59 PM »
Kolbacit, while researching gas magnetization I came across this video. What caught my attention was the gas production at the 11 minute mark of demonstration. In your experiments have you ever tested the effect of magnets on gas production. If so would you mind sharing your results.

https://youtu.be/LS3GQk9ETRU

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360319911023500
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