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Juggling inertia...
« on: April 03, 2021, 10:34:46 PM »
.....as a circus performance , at : https://youtu.be/SebDLxMORZs
     as a concept , at :                 http://web.mit.edu/angles2008/angles_Jacob_Sharpe.html
     as a simplified mechanical "composition" if we take a look at :
     http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_vane_pump#/media/File%3ARotary_vane_pump.svg
.....but , we retain two spare parts (1 and 2 ) only ...and take out the vane (3-4-3) ,replacing this rotor with another one...a kind of vise handle (rotating and sliding ) bar , as :
     https://shop.goldpeaktools.com.ph/products/Stanley-sliding-t-bar
.....and play it "double"( in "mirror"...) , can we get across with a "clean" pulsatory one-way centrifugal thrust ? !
     Two counter-rotating-sliding vise handles...as an "inertial propeller" ?!
     Al_ex
« Last Edit: April 04, 2021, 12:36:05 AM by iacob alex »

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Re: Juggling inertia...
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2021, 04:24:53 AM »
That's similar to Michael Waldin's Inertial Propeller (WIP).  I've built that already, and it doesn't work, without a secondary system providing an external force. The WIP is a kinetic energy system, with an eccentric orbital.


edit: On the forum where I corresponded with Mike, everything else was always irrelevant, because: "WIP!!"

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 05:20:01 AM »
I even offered to ship my Planetary Tractor to one of the other guys on the forum, so he could have a working prototype to scale up for his truck.  Mike said WIP!, so the guy had Mike ship him some CNC numbers.

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 05:45:41 AM »
Mike is an expert in the electrokinetic field, and holds the world's record for the largest ridgid hull vehicle (385' by165'). He did give me some valuable information (uranium electrodes). I offered to give him something in return, but he refuses to accept that something might be better than straight HV DC pulses.

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 07:07:56 AM »
Counter rotating weights do not support moving the track towards the opposing weight.  You don't drive a nail by putting a hammer against the nail and pushing.


Kinetic impact requires rapid repetition, not just once per rotation.

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Re: Juggling inertia...
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 08:02:37 PM »
 Hi Jerry !
Take a look at :
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20080168862.pdf
https://images.app.goo.gl/93VsZYGXstuW926p9
They have some common first lines ( two rotating-sliding masses ) with :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_vane_pump#/media/File%3ARotary_vane_pump.svg
My proposal was a minor change ( 3-4-3 as a single mass...) of rotor , with :
https://shop.goldpeaktools.com.ph/products/stanley-sliding-t-bar
 Al_ex

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2021, 09:55:38 PM »
Hi Alex, Mr Inertial Sailor!
I've been impressed in the past by the sheer number of devices you've built.


This system we're considering at the moment looks like it could produce a usable effect.  In my opinion, there should be an impulse around 60 degrees before the point of shortest radius.  If you impact against the device at that point, quickly and repetitiously, you should get a unidirectional jump with each impact, although I'm unsure if that will work faster than around 200 rpm.
For best results, the sliding arm should be as long as possible, for the most momentum at low speed.

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Re: Juggling inertia...
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 03:23:00 AM »
 Hi Jerry !
Long time ago , it was inter-corporate forum/inertial propulsion...and the inertial "sailor"...I remember with pleasure ,but regretfully...and a non-tested model :
www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Disclosed_experiments/grab0013.JPG
Now , starting with a counter-rotating propellers logo :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-rotating_propellers#/media/File%3ACounter-rotating_propellers.gif
...as a symbol to identify the "essentially" motion , we can develop a simple logo for centrifugal propulsion:two counter- rotating- sliding masses (rods) , with an one-way thrust , as a summary.
 Al_ex








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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2021, 04:19:03 AM »
It's certainly worth building it, to see what it does.


I've looked at a lot of patents and that's a new concept.
Something non linear.

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2021, 06:08:08 AM »
I remember the inter-corporate forum. They didn't have an index and by the time they shut down you had to scroll through 2,000 posts to find something.  That's why I missed the concept back then.

 

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