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### Author Topic: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.  (Read 17063 times)

#### Floor

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2021, 03:43:24 PM »
Also as a note...

If functioning at or near unity, Ray's device is functioning in the conversion of
magnetic energy to mechanical energy more efficiently that is the input motor.

#### muzzz

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2021, 05:08:40 PM »
Hi Guys , can someone explain to me why this is OU . Has he not just made a more efficient way of lifting the coins using inertia? .I assume both motors were the same?
Also if he used some better gear reduction on  just the motor setup and raised the same amount of coins to a certain height say 1ft and also calculated the stored potential energy of the raised weight and amount of power consumed to get to 1ft height  ,then measure how much the coins are raised each time his machine rotated and again run the machine the time it takes to have lifted the coins the same amount , then see how much power was consumed by the motor and add the used potential energy as the coins are dropped each rotation (assuming the dropping of the coins assists in its operation) .Would this not then show if it was OU .

#### kajunbee

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2021, 06:57:34 PM »
Hi Guys , can someone explain to me why this is OU . Has he not just made a more efficient way of lifting the coins using inertia?

Ditto.

#### kolbacict

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2021, 08:10:44 PM »
exactly. I also thought about the ratchet wheel. or manually remove the coins at the top.
And then put it down below. Or, as suggested above, divide the consumption of the motor when moving up and down.

#### synchro1

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2021, 10:05:44 PM »
Ray's flipper is an inverse Kundel gear. Rotating Kundel's generator with an electric drill would deliver the same COP in the solinoid coil as Ray gets with his coins. Both the Kundel gear and Ray's flipper are powered in two directions.

Kundel maintains his generator is overunity. That may be true, in which case Ray's may be too! Kundel demonstrates his magnet gear power saw not drawing more amperage when a heavily forced load is placed on it.

#### Floor

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2021, 03:38:26 AM »
Hi Guys , can someone explain to me why this is OU . Has he not just made a more efficient way of lifting the coins using inertia? .I assume both motors were the same?
Also if he used some better gear reduction on  just the motor setup and raised the same amount of coins to a certain height say 1ft and also calculated the stored potential energy of the raised weight and amount of power consumed to get to 1ft height  ,then measure how much the coins are raised each time his machine rotated and again run the machine the time it takes to have lifted the coins the same amount , then see how much power was consumed by the motor and add the used potential energy as the coins are dropped each rotation (assuming the dropping of the coins assists in its operation) .Would this not then show if it was OU .

#### Floor

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2021, 04:39:52 AM »
@ muzz

I think you are referring to Ray's build, yes ?

Please be specific in your posts.  It saves a lot of time
rather than going back and forth.  Its considerate of
other peoples time that way.

The video's maker (Ray) has not declared this to be O.U..

I have not either.

I have said that Given certain conditions,
are true it would be work from magnets.

Call that O.U. if you like. I would.

And please read the topic, its pretty short.
If you had,  your question would have been unneeded.

best wishes floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2021, 05:03:49 AM »
exactly. I also thought about the ratchet wheel. or manually remove the coins at the top.
And then put it down below. Or, as suggested above, divide the consumption of the motor when moving up and down.

Right on.

I think Ray is already on this stuff.  He is just showing his testing and progress to date.

regards
floor

#### MagnaProp

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2021, 05:21:36 AM »
I'm thinking now it might work better with a cylindrical magnet that is tapered at the top and bottom. The taper helps make more distance between the flipper and the sticky spot. Side view shown. Green parts are Rays metal sticky spot reducer bars. This way there is no need for the strange cuts I mentioned earlier.

I don't know. A single motor only lifts the load.
But the load in the installation on the right rises and falls.
Work in this case is zero.
Not sure what you mean. As Floor mentioned in his post "The flip flop magnets are under power in both directions."

Turn Rays apparatus 90 degrees on its side and the coins would get pushed and pulled side to side with the same amount of force. Doesn't matter what the load is on the flipper. The only load the motor will ever feel is the flipper getting past the sticky spot which will be a known, set value.

#### Floor

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2021, 05:35:06 AM »
@ MagnaProp

The design is a strange bird.

I have had some modification ideas too.

But when playing around with a couple of magnets in hand,
those ideas didn't work out.

#### MagnaProp

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2021, 05:55:14 AM »
@Floor. A strange one indeed. If this pans out or not, it's good to know a Ray of hope is on the job.

#### h20power

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2021, 10:08:57 AM »
I can't do it. alternating current and high frequency are absorbed by water.
Constant voltage is unattainable due to high electrical conductivity.
I wanted to measure the capacity of the WFC  I'm tired already.

The truly sad thing is I showed high voltage being applied to a water bath way back in 2013 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWhQusfWuac and you people turn around and say it's impossible when I already done it? What's going on? Is this some kind of sick joke?!

I already did it and just need the funds to go the rest of the way.

#### h20power

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2021, 10:12:24 AM »
Greetings, Edward
I remember reading a few years back on some forum or something about someone donating a couple hundred thousand to someone working on Meyers tech. The person claimed that they donated the money and never got anything in return. Can't remember any names or where I read it. Does that story ring any bells?

I don't remember seeing anything like that but remember a lot donated to Russ back in the day and bypassed me when I was the one showing promising results, sad. Again here is a video of Gunther and I putting high voltage for the first time ever in a provable manor to a WFC for all the world to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWhQusfWuac

#### NdaClouDzzz

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2021, 11:51:49 AM »
Yeah, I can't remember who it was, but they were claiming that they donated a couple hundred to someone working on Meyers stuff and they didn't get anything promised in return. That would suck! Thank you for your contributions to the tech👍

#### kolbacict

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##### Re: LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.
« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2021, 01:36:39 PM »
Quote
and you people turn around and say it's impossible when I already done it?
I’m not saying that it’s impossible, I’m just saying that I haven’t succeeded yet.