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Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2021, 02:42:36 PM »
Greetings, randomly I came here to take a look. there are indeed people here. which could potentially work on those. to find the real device.
I am personally in Minsk. My name is Ilya, my laboratory is located in Belarus. A long story would probably be correct to say. that I personally did just experiments now. which showed how in the history of Electromagnetism fragments were missed that are related to Newton's 3 law, the relationship between mass and energy, and everything that is not so openly in the literature on electromagnetism.

Therefore, before describing my difficult path of ordeals, I decided to introduce myself a little.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2021, 04:39:26 PM »
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It goes against reasoning to think that you can take a 1 gallon jug of water and pour out more than one gallon of water.

True, however we could use the latent energy of 1 gallon of water to extract ten gallons from the atmosphere.

People forget that when water evaporates it not only produces a cooling effect which can condense more atmospheric water but also physical motion due to a change in pressure.

In natures process like conditions attract, they not oppose.

For example, the motion of evaporating water produces a cooling effect which causes more motion (wind) as warmer humid air moves towards it. The motion upwards produces clouds which also cool as the water condenses and then falls as rain. Thus water can attract more water, it's motion producing more motion because it's not a closed system and is considered "solar energy" because it ultimately comes from the Sun.

If we wanted to transform barren deserts into rain forests all we would have to do is plant tree's. Tree's absorb and transpire water producing a cooling effect which draws in warm air containing more moisture, water attracts water. This is why forests tend to remain forests and deserts remain deserts.

In nature like attracts a like condition not opposites because it always works indirectly.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2021, 02:09:49 AM »
True, however we could use the latent energy of 1 gallon of water to extract ten gallons from the atmosphere.

People forget that when water evaporates it not only produces a cooling effect which can condense more atmospheric water but also physical motion due to a change in pressure.

In natures process like conditions attract, they not oppose.

For example, the motion of evaporating water produces a cooling effect which causes more motion (wind) as warmer humid air moves towards it. The motion upwards produces clouds which also cool as the water condenses and then falls as rain. Thus water can attract more water, it's motion producing more motion because it's not a closed system and is considered "solar energy" because it ultimately comes from the Sun.

If we wanted to transform barren deserts into rain forests all we would have to do is plant tree's. Tree's absorb and transpire water producing a cooling effect which draws in warm air containing more moisture, water attracts water. This is why forests tend to remain forests and deserts remain deserts.

In nature like attracts a like condition not opposites because it always works indirectly.

I believe that You, Brad and I are all correct in our views, which just goes to show how the people who suppress free-energy/OU tech have been so successful.

Question: Can we really say that a closed system/circuit is CLOSED when we KNOW it can LEAK energy (heat, electromagnetic waves) from the system?
If it can leak energy out, why not in?

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #64 on: April 23, 2021, 07:26:30 AM »
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Question: Can we really say that a closed system/circuit is CLOSED when we KNOW it can LEAK energy (heat, electromagnetic waves) from the system?
If it can leak energy out, why not in?

There are no closed systems and the whole concept basically came about to make calculations easier. As Faraday implied, we are surrounded by matter and space filled with untold energy and if we tried to include all of it in our calculations they would become infinitely complex. Faraday, Maxwell etc... state categorically that they do not include internal or external energy not relevant to the discussion. In reality no real scientist actually believes in a physically closed system, lol.

What did happen was that many amateurs who don't understand science or the concepts of energy took the notion of closed systems literally by mistake. I mean as we speak I have a couple circuits measuring and data logging Earths magnetic and electric fields. These are external energy fields, I can measure there effects, there always changing and no real scientist has any problem with it.

So whenever anyone implies any system is closed this is a clear sign they don't understand science. People would do well to read Faraday's lectures on electrodynamics because there very interesting and he was very open minded.

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Offline onepower

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #65 on: April 23, 2021, 07:43:24 AM »
So far as a supposed working free energy device is concerned I have had them for decades...

When I was a teenager I rigged up an antenna and rectifier to charge a capacitor tied to a ground rod. Over time the capacitor would charge due to atmospheric disturbances and radio waves then discharge through a small lightbulb. I also built crystal radio's which could scavenge power as well probably 40 years ago.

So I'm not sure where people are getting these nonsensical idea's that there are closed systems and we aren't swimming in a sea of energy. More so when every solar panel we know of is receiving energy every day from a nearby star 150 million km away we call the Sun. I also find this notion that nobody could nor will ever find a better way to extract energy from nature completely absurd. Of course we will, it's a given and simply a matter of time. Were always getting new idea's to improve things and we will continue to do so well into the future.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2021, 05:17:36 PM »
So I'm not sure where people are getting these nonsensical idea's that there are closed systems and we aren't swimming in a sea of energy. More so when every solar panel we know of is receiving energy every day from a nearby star 150 million km away we call the Sun.

Thank you for your responses
Yes, I always have to correct people when they say that there is no such thing as free-energy.
When we go outside and stand in the Sun and it heats our skin, is that not FREE-ENERGY? And if we stick a solar panel in space facing the sun, would it not produce electricity 24/7 and be considered perpetual motion?
We are definitely in a sea of energy free for the taking. What generally costs us is capturing and transforming that energy into power for our electrical devices. FREE seems to me to be a matter of perspective! Some see it and some don't.

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When I was a teenager I rigged up an antenna and rectifier to charge a capacitor tied to a ground rod. Over time the capacitor would charge due to atmospheric disturbances and radio waves then discharge through a small lightbulb. I also built crystal radio's which could scavenge power as well probably 40 years ago.

Yep. Thank you Tesla, Don Smith, et al.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2021, 05:02:24 PM »
Here is one...

https://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/msg556863/#msg556863

Greetings. Like that. Because energy is a concept that refers to the activity of that. what we call the staging environment.
lThe first questions began to study Umov in his works on mechanics and not only. Then his thoughts are that energy is a certain amount of electricity. which to pass through the area of ​​the conductor was picked up by Poynting. And then Heaviside, independently of Poynting, working in telegraphy, came to the conclusion that energy enters the system from a conductor and medium through electromagnetic waves. The waves themselves surround the space of the conductor, which today we call the Physical Vacuum.


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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2021, 05:34:27 PM »
These are quotes from a book in Russian. which quotes Heaviside, these are his scattered and unpublished thoughts. in which he concludes that light waves exist in the medium. which have pressure and, accordingly, because of the shadow inside the zariks, this pressure will exert on the balls and they will move to each other. After 50 years, the Casimir Effect appeared and after a while it was verified experimentally. An experiment in which this energy or mass is in such a state, due to which the silts are balanced and they do not allow us to register it in the medium or space.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #70 on: May 03, 2021, 02:42:03 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCfl5pR8Kc&ab_channel=ИльяСчастливчик
Interesting is that  you brought up video of a very  controversial person here.
This guy attacked me few times  very aggressively.
However everyone has rights to his own opinion  based on our Western  World regulations
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Unfortunately  under his video there is no link to original video of  Veritasium.
Here is link that explains it.
Cathode Rays Lead to Thomson's Model of the Atom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xKZRpAsWL8

So who is Илья Счастливчик
334 subscribers
Well he is/was working for :
 Глобальная Волна — Global Wave  95.7K subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDO4IhyK6FQ
Quite active Russian group likely supported by Russian government very unfriendly to FE!!!.
they have youtube with very much questionable content , having  picture of Putin
in the  central view of most their studio videos.
promoting:
Spiritualism,
nontraditional medical methods,
meditation,
Tesla, Free Energy,
"mathematician"  who is claiming that - minus sign is a lie and entire mathematics is  wrong,
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So what problem do we have now with this Russian  Fellow Илья Счастливчик (Ilia Schaslivchik.)
Well he made video about "Thomson error," in his typical manner of chopped into a pieces Veritasium video,
that now is in comfortable to him form, no explanation of what his  objection is, and no link to original video.
What error he is talking about?
 
What is his agenda?

So who was  Thomson and his model of an atom:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._J._Thomson#:~:text=In%201904%2C%20Thomson%
20suggested%20a%20model%20of%20the,distributed%20in%20a%20uniform%20sea%20of%20positive%20charge.
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The plum pudding model is one of several historical scientific models of the atom. First proposed by
J. J. Thomson  in 1904  soon after the discovery of the electron, but before the discovery of the atomic nucleus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_pudding_model

Summary:

Thomson was contributor  often credited  for discovery of  an electron.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #71 on: May 03, 2021, 04:11:00 AM »
These are quotes from a book in Russian. which quotes Heaviside, these are his scattered and unpublished thoughts. in which
he concludes that light waves exist in the medium. which have and, accordingly, because of the shadow inside the zariks,
this pressure will exert on the balls and they will move to each other.
After 50 years, the Casimir Effect appeared and after a while it was verified experimentally.
An experiment in which this energy or mass is in such a state, due to which the silts are balanced and they do not allow us to register it in the medium or space.

So lets make some sense from this gibberish.

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because of the shadow inside the zariks,
This quote indicates  that entire text is a translation  from original Russian.
It is nothing wrong when someone with no English  tries to communicate, I do support it.
But that translated text,  unfortunately  didn't come right .

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Some of my responses to the text from above:


1.   Light is electromagnetic wave

2.   Medium:  for EM wave it is  wave medium and is -anything other than a true vacuum-
     The wave medium is not the wave and it doesn't make the wave; Electromagnetic_Waves and medium

2a. electromagnetic wave can travel through anything - "be it", air, a solid material or vacuum.
     electromagnetic wave does not need a medium to propagate or travel from one place to another.

3.  Wave pressure applies to  mechanical wave that has nothing to do with EM wave .
     https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-pressure-wave
     
3a. However  radiation pressure  exist in Quantum World of EM Wave .
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure

So what  problem do I have with that old Russian book? :
quote  from the picture  below( look at original  post) in Russian  it says:
   -that  wave/s having vectors pointing at  physical mass of the  body ( sphere) all around
     will  equal its pressure  and object will not move.
     But if  we have two equal bodies  spaced at some distance- they will repel due to  photon pressure .
     
that statement is incorrect in the form it was presented
    Please be refereed to: radiation pressure article for better understanding .

It should be rather said that two objects having different temperature may emit  IR wave and  repealing may be observed .
Heaviside's main achievements was the recasting of Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism into the form currently used by everyone.
But we need to  understand that it was time when  mechanisms of particle physics were as much in its infantry as EM theory.
Radiation pressure can equally well be accounted for by considering the momentum of a classical electromagnetic field
or in terms of the momenta of photons, particles of light
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Summary:

Ilia Schaslivchik and some other Russians  tend to  promote ether/eather and they use any possible
sources to make basis for it.
EATER/Eather DOESN'T EXIST .. please memorize it once  and forever.
OVERUNITY DOESN'T"T EXIST .. please memorize it once  and forever.



Russian education system was absolutely good during CCCP time ,but now not much - to nothing is left from it.
Formats are frozen in time now , with no much change and old teachers  died out .
So what feeling do many scientist  have when talking to some Russians:
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- It is as if you were talking to  CERN scientist and the same time to Russian scientist from  19 century.
You would see them holding into  quite different  form of  the same  models in physics.

 Any scientist would be happy to talk to scientist  from  the future 100 years up.
 But unfortunate is that in Russia political agenda is prioritized  over anything else.
Wesley

Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #72 on: May 03, 2021, 09:06:03 AM »
Hevside was exclusively engaged in science and he wrote literature on absolutely scientific topics. At the same time, I was a very talented or maybe even a genius person and I do not feel aggression because of belonging to his origin. I feel respect for his work.

Regarding the most conspiratorial book. which is in the public domain dedicated to Heaviside says that just in his last works. which disappeared without a trace, there are only some fragments, Heaviside described the Casimir effect, which was repeated by Lamerow. just says that the Physical Vacuum or Ether is not empty in the minds of people, the professor argued. who, after Umov and simultaneously with Poynting, came to the idea. that energy enters the conductor itself from the outside.

In the video from Veritassium. in which the description spoke of what Thomson assumed. that the atom consists of Elementary particles and these particles are part of the cathode and the electrons themselves are part of the atom escaping from the cathode, I showed that this is a complete delusion.

If we say that we have a certain closed circuit and a current is moving there, then this is just a mistake. since the luminescence of the light bulb can occur at that moment. when the electrodes are not inside the bulb. Therefore, we must consider only the idea of ​​Poynting Heaviside about the movement of energy in space, and this space does not create charges from emptiness, it only transforms the apparent emptiness into the charge we observe.

https://youtu.be/SRCfl5pR8Kc

I showed this on alternating current and showed it on the example of pulsating direct current. where a nearby light bulb glows without direct contact. What speaks in favor of Hertz's hypothesis that in essence it is a demonstration of Waves in Ether, Space, Environment, Physical Vacuum, call it what you want.


https://youtu.be/mGbCLJkwTMc

Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #73 on: May 03, 2021, 09:50:06 AM »
______________________________________________________________
Summary:

Ilia Schaslivchik and some other Russians  tend to  promote ether/eather and they use any possible
sources to make basis for it.
EATER/Eather DOESN'T EXIST .. please memorize it once  and forever.
OVERUNITY DOESN'T"T EXIST .. please memorize it once  and forever.



Russian education system was absolutely good during CCCP time ,but now not much - to nothing is left from it.
Formats are frozen in time now , with no much change and old teachers  died out .
So what feeling do many scientist  have when talking to some Russians:
 Any scientist would be happy to talk to scientist  from  the future 100 years up.
 But unfortunate is that in Russia political agenda is prioritized  over anything else.
Wesley
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About your suggestions. I cannot accept them, because there were many theories of Ether, and to this day there is a theory of dynamic Ether.
You are probably a vlogger or propagandist, but I'll tell you this, it all depends on what you put into terms and concepts.
I tend to consider the idea of ​​a Dynamic Ether, not a motionless one. whose supporter was Lorentz, which is why in physics there was a confusion in representations. Einstein really wanted to build a career as a relativist and looked for all possible ways to use his mathematical abstractions in order to explain what he could not on the physical level.

I am personally a practitioner and I consider the whole theory from the practical side and only after that I compare some facts and theories.

Therefore, before you talk about the non-existence of Ether. you need to be clear about what you mean. Because it all speaks. that both in politics and in science you put all that in your head. what you want and how you want and at the same time try to pass off as an objective representation.

I do not support the idea of ​​a motionless Ether, flow. which Lorenz tried to consider. However, you have to give it credit. Lorentz needed to mathematically hypothesize that. how does the indignation of Ether, the environment occur. space that seems empty and the reason for the appearance of EM waves, it was also necessary to explain the reason why interactions in nature cannot exist instantly, for which the Lorentz transformations were introduced. which Einstein took advantage of. The cause of EM waves does not lie in transformations, it is in the physical manifestations of the environment. which. gently pushed aside ..
Today the environment exists in the concept of Physical Vacuum. But the populists of the 20th century popularized the Physical Vacuum in this way. that came down to a banal idea of ​​emptiness. The beginning was laid by Lorenz, since the idea of ​​that. that the Earth moves relative to Ether was such a primitive concept that initially Lorentz had to ask the question - what moves the Earth?
Where did the idea of ​​a partially or completely carried away Ether go?
In itself, the interpretation of ideas about that. that Ether is a consequence of a misconception. Ether is the environment. which is represented by physicists in the form of a field ....

But the question is, what exactly such a concept as a Field is that. what did Umov, Poynting and Heaviside do.
Heaviside was a practitioner, his job was to work with telegraph lines. More precisely, to create a system that allows you to design telegraph lines. And he is the first. who understood the idea that Energy is that. that moves in Space, Vacuum, Environment surrounding the conductor. It was Heaviside who introduced the concept of Inductance, it was he who understood that energy moves not only around the conductor. it falls into a certain depth of this conductor, forming the so-called Skin Effect.

Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #74 on: May 03, 2021, 10:26:07 AM »
I may seem harsh, I just try to defend the sobriety of views and ideas. I do not use Thomson's ideas because they are unfounded.
As I have shown, cathode rays are manifestations of an EM field, which is rightfully called a photon. The visible spectrum of radiation is manifested not only in the Thomson tube, but in any tube filled with an inert gas there will be a similar glow as in an alternating one. and on pulsating direct current.
this is also the case in the Franklin Machine, in which a flask with discharged gas starts to glow with static electricity.

If we return to the Coulomb experiment. which is described in any textbook on physics, then just in the scales themselves there is a force interaction of the Electric Field with a physical body in the form of a metal ball.
F = k (q1 * q2 / r ^ 2)
In Millikan's experiment there is a force interaction of oil droplets with an electric field in a capacitor.


quote: in 1884 J. Poynting published a famous article, which essentially contained the development of Umov's ideas in relation to the electromagnetic field. In this study, Poynting created the theory of the motion and flow of EM energy, which was an important addition and a fundamentally new step in the development of Maxwell's theory of the electromagnetic field.
Poynting proceeds from the Faraday-Maxwellian concept of short-range action: “If we recognize the continuity of energy movement, i.e. we admit that when it disappears at one point and reappears at another, it had to pass through the intermediate space, then we are forced to conclude that the environment contains at least part of the energy and is capable of being transferred from point to point. "

https://www.reddit.com/user/Emotional-Notice4746/comments/n3tv5y/pointing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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