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Author Topic: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?  (Read 10307 times)

Offline TriKri

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Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« on: March 30, 2021, 12:27:50 AM »
As the title says, has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works? If so, are there instructions to reproduce your build? I'm asking because it would be nice to hear from someone who has personal experience of a system and can verify that it works and produces more energy that it consumes.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2021, 02:26:11 AM »
Don't be stupid. Do some research and see what happens to free-energy inventors before you come here asking moronic questions! And don't by into shyster Ramset's spiel as his job here is to lure out free-energy inventors so that the MIB can shut them down. Many fakers here!

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2021, 02:01:26 PM »
Writing lies perhaps makes you feel better , liable and slander are weak points of a discussion (and against the law !
And of course forum rules !

 Many times I asked you to write the sentence or two with the schematic and specs ( wire size,
Type , values ... etc etc and expectations ( in your claim of COP 2 or twice the output of input
Nobody ever made such a simple “Aboveunity”claim that actually worked here ..
(Of course you provided none of the above information... however a Member of your forum was helping a builder here ... seems you have forbidden it to continue?


And when persons could not get results... no help except abuse ...


Hateful words ... lies ( see above)


You run a forum over ten years now ? ... hiding life saving planet changing technologies?
Countless unimaginable consequences to our world and its inhabitants


While you played games at your forum “ huge billboards “ get aboveunity here easy peasy”
See all my members and their awards ( yes you actually gave “PUBLIC front page awards” ...no concern at all for members
And safety ?


But now it’s hush hush when person asks you to “open source”...write a sentence with directions and expected results !!


Billboards and Public awards are ok ( safe ? )..But sentence open sourcing ..is trouble ...??huh ?


Disruptive technologies are bursting out everywhere... unfortunately you need to be rich
(Elon Musk and now LAVO in Australia with hydrogen storage
Breakthrough on a water planet ....


The world races past those like yourself who hid techs and watched people die and planet pay the price ...


Is not time to run and hide .. ( or write lies) it’s time to run towards the need
And open source


Please share your simple COP 2 secret
Thousands have tried and failed ...


Show us how it works ?
No hundreds of pages of writing ( which you remove with hateful words when persons can’t replicate
Or find errors ( or have questions)in replications


Please share and stop the lies !!


Again here are some persons with worlds most disruptive technology... even more disruptive than Elon


https://lavo.com.au/


You must be rich to afford it ....
please share your COP 2 simple claim


Let your good friend captain Loz help itsu ?
Explain why he can’t get it working ( thousand others have same problem)


Please !!
The world desperately needed this a decade ago ... and not one public replication that worked aboveunity ..


stop hiding it and share the secret!!


How many more extinctions and deaths ?


Help us to stop burning our atmosphere to make power
Choking our air and poisoning our oceans


Enuff!!


None of us are free
Till everyone of us are free!!


Like sunshine and air and water ... our world gives us these things open source...
It works for universe ...


It’s the model we must follow
Open source!!





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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2021, 02:01:26 PM »
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2021, 02:19:58 PM »
Infinitive : to wash  lavar               

                   I  wash  eu lavo ( as maos,o cerebro et cetera)

40 KWh as hydrogen converted to electricity = 2 days average australian private household consume

         or up to 2 months storage improved Mr.Chalko ' 0,8 eKWh/day'- consume

ramset,the question here is :
the metal sponge( material/weight) as storage related up to 4 billions private households global ?


Sustainable technology or ' humans triage ' !?

Peakoil,peakcopper,peaknickel,....!


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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2021, 02:44:36 PM »
Lanca
There was a member here shared a similar working principle with another gas!


He wrote of a material zeolite which absorbed propane gas
Back into liquid when exposed to it ( the zeolite)


Yes no power required and produced a phase change from gas to liquid


And released back again to gas with minute ( teensy) charge across zeolite!


It was part of a pap engine claim ?


Perhaps other materials for application mentioned ?


https://lavo.com.au/


Respectfully
Chet K
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Open source community needs this info...for education purposes !
Storing hydrogen at such huge energy density??


Absolutely amazing !!








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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2021, 02:52:36 PM »
The lavo is an hydrogen metal alloy storage with fuel cell converter with 50% efficiency
 
https://www.ecogeneration.com.au/the-40kwh-34750-196kg-hydrogen-battery-for-the-home/

20 000 charge cycles estimation !
Weight 196 Kg the storage , +- 324 Kg the total system
Price : $ 34.750 ,assuming Aussi -Dol(l)ar

$34750 /20 000 charge cycles/5 KW ~ € 0,3475/KWh


" .....  As with all first-of-its-kind gear the Lavo batteries are expensive, with a $34,750 price tag for the first model. Over time, and as efficiencies are further fine-tuned, Muller expects to the price will one day begin with a two. .... "

Probably more related hidrit material : Professor Aguey-Zinsou publications


https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/alchemy-of-energy-breakthrough-offers-mass-hydrogen-storage-options-20200702-p558dj.html


Professor Aguey-Zinsou said the alloy contained titanium and "other common materials", but declined to name them, pending the issuance of a formal patent expected within weeks.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360319919318336

https://research.unsw.edu.au/people/professor-kondo-francois-aguey-zinsou/publications?page=1




https://www.element14.com/community/groups/power-management/blog/2020/07/09/researchers-develop-a-system-that-could-store-large-amounts-of-electricity-in-the-form-of-hydrogen


It could potentially cost as low as 2 cents per kW-hour, or less than one-tenth the cost of lithium and buying power from the grid, which makes the storage very competitive. Converting electricity to hydrogen and back would "multiply the inefficiencies," and rapid take-up of the product shouldn't be expected


from $0,3475 to $0,02 the system endconsumer price has to decline to $2000
            Muller expects to the price will one day begin with a two. ....  ::)



Even $ 3475 would be too high for the below 80% worldwide private households !



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OCWL


For that value $3475 you can get the equivalent 5 KW output by

Imris magnet amplifier + Ramos Suarez or Tanaka Saburo battery charger and adgex.ru 25000 cycles Nickel-battery





https://permies.com/t/30590/Intermittent-Adsorption-Refrigerator


https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/6659809/hydrocarbon-technology-gtz

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 07:46:00 PM »
ur easy to fuk with, Ramset. And I'm not Chris! Bunch of dummies here who think so! 8)

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 10:40:57 PM »
As the title says, has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works? If so, are there instructions to reproduce your build? I'm asking because it would be nice to hear from someone who has personal experience of a system and can verify that it works and produces more energy that it consumes.




                                                          [0006] [0007]
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=CA&NR=2061962A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19930828&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6603890

Fenn resolves the dilemma when he states, Id. page 15, " work as not energy. Work is not 'possessed' by a system whereas Energy is.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2021, 05:13:03 AM »



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https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=CA&NR=2061962A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19930828&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6603890

Fenn resolves the dilemma when he states, Id. page 15, " work as not energy. Work is not 'possessed' by a system whereas Energy is.
Oh dreary me what went wrong that link doesn't work.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2021, 11:58:33 AM »
Good Morning ,AlienGrey !
Do You mean that the osti.gov link does not open John.B.Fenn his lecture book ?
Then You are right !
Btw : "free energy and overunity" expressions are (analytical electro-)chemistry related ,less Physics !
A little knowledge about Avogrado and Gay-Lussac experiments helps !
John Bennett Fenn ,for his special works awarded,Nobel Award,in Chemistry ( ionisation)  !
Another Chemistry awarded work,not by Mr.Fenn ,important for surplus energy results disclosure, "asymetrics" related !



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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2021, 12:30:01 PM »
Chet,
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oeko-energie.de%2Fenergieberatung%2F


Standart household             compared              SMART,economical household 


18 KWh                                                         +/-   3 KWh




down  to https://mtbest.net/energy-efficiency/   https://mtbest.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2021/03/household_efficiency.pdf


                                                                     
This means that the Lavo system ( or other energetic solutions) can be easily appropriate dimensionized !


Actually : https://lavo.com.au/#specs  Usable Capacity  40 kWh          Real Power, max continuous  5 kW (charge and discharge)


Instead 40 KWh storage 10 KWh or less !


And with Imris 5 KW rated output amplifier ,C.O.P. 8 apparent power to real power :






34750 AUS$ / 4 ( instead 40 KWh only 10 KWh storage) / 8 ( for C.O.P. 8  )  = linear 1086 AUS$ + 1125 Euros Imris amplifier




1 AUS$ = actually 0,75 US$   1 US$ = actually 0,85 Euro





or 34750 AUS$/ 8 =             linear 4343 AUS$ + 1125 Euros Imris amplifier


about "economy" and " bubble economics" :

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/11/22325004/new-3d-printed-homes-austin-price-icon-housing


800 sqft for 10 000 US$                    or                      1000 sqft                            for      450 000 US$ price
                                                                               
from 3dmachine production view                                1000 sqft/800 sqft x 10 000 US$ =   12 500 US$ worth

34 750 AUS$ x 0,75 = 26 062,5 US$ Lavo system price
Paying for an energetic solution more than a new -social law appropriate-house worth ?

Social law : up to 4 capita family : 30,5 sqm basic function area + 9 sqm per capita = 66,5 sqm home area

Base for house/home credit  sum maximum avaliation !
800 sqft x 0,093 = 74,4 sqm home area = over 4 capita social law comfort !





The ICON low profit price per sqm does me not surprise :
Contour Crafting 3d tech build house 100 US$/sqmnon-profit canadian block-house style 50 Euros/sqmjovoto 300 US$ house competition

Not to misunderstand :
each one has the right to pay these 450 000 US$ for this new East Austin construction,
cash or by house/ground change

but only
12500 US$ x 0,8 x 0,8 = 8000 US$ are possible as credit participation by institutions ! A constitutional demand !

This is the "estate administration bubble" economy !


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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2021, 06:15:18 PM »
quote:
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Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
It is a problem  with semantics :
 Overunity  doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it  FE  Free energy than  that term  is describing deice that used   energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
 etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy  after initial cost of the  conversion device is free.
Wesley

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2021, 06:22:09 PM »
quote: It is a problem  with semantics :
 Overunity  doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it  FE  Free energy than  that term  is describing deice that used   energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
 etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy  after initial cost of the  conversion device is free.
Wesley

Although solar and wind energy is 'free' it's not really what we are searching for on this forum.
So i would say: 'to convert energy which is available anywhere and anytime free of charge'.

And to answer the question: No, i have never seen a system according to this definition, and i doubt anyone on this forum ever has built one.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2021, 09:28:43 PM »
quote: It is a problem  with semantics :
 Overunity  doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it  FE  Free energy than  that term  is describing deice that used   energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
 etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy  after initial cost of the  conversion device is free.
Wesley

Actually, this is what THEY would have us believe!  OU is possible without violation of the laws of thermodynamics as we shall see sometime before the remainder of this year is complete.

Of course energy conversion can result in apparent free energy (solar) but true FE is possible!

Regards,
Pm

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2021, 09:46:03 PM »
Who backed this expression ' overunity' ?
'free energy' is a Physics/Chemistry official and used expression/term !
The problem with free= unbonded energy = short  actio/reactio life in time unit


We need a.much mass f.e.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9BV6nb79fA     power/density ratio

                b. rare elements(precious) for amorphous alloys


                    f.e. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel


                   rare ?


                   Nickel is required as a metal in small quantities; most of the production goes into the production of stainless steels and nickel alloys . Nickel is used in many specific and recognizable industrial and consumer uses, including steel , Alnico - magnet , coins , rechargeable batteries , e- guitar strings , microphone capsules , claddings on sanitary fittingsand special alloy such as permalloy, Elinvar and Invar . It is used for coatingand as a green tint in glassThe reserves of nickel deposits that can be mined from today's point of view are between 70 and 170 million tons. Currently, more than two million tonnes are extracted worldwide each year (2018: 2.4 million tonnes .

170 000 000 000 Kg / 4 000 000 000 private households ( by 11 Bio. habitants 2100) = 42,5 Kg per household


1950 Kg mass for 170 KW capacity , from this mass pure Nickel-part ?


https://adgex.com/docs/EnergyBRICK_teaser_en.pdf  " INFINITE POWER SCALE-UP"  ???  INFINITE Nickel SOURCE ? ::)




for great W output per cbm or sqm or Kg or sec  : conventional industrial and private consume related  !




My elementar orientation : aluminium ,sodium and carbon (as graphit/graphene )  for coils/batteries/generator/motor/transformer

 

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