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Author Topic: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?  (Read 35899 times)

Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #75 on: May 03, 2021, 05:36:43 PM »
Using the literature in which Umov was the first to put forward the concept of energy flux and density, considering the interactions of bodies through an intermediate medium, he was the first to express for the first time the need to maintain such a medium.

The most conclusive literature of all free energy cospirologists of the early 20th century had taku. the book by Gustav Mee, the translation of this book and publication was in Odessa in 1927. The name itself says that the Course of Electricity and Magnetism (experimental physics of the world ether)

And this is what an engineering company looks like from a bird's-eye view, where I did experiments in the bowels of its laboratory. The laboratory itself is located in the premises of the former bomb shelter)

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #76 on: May 03, 2021, 06:38:22 PM »
Now we are getting ready for experiments in order to apply the physics of processes to a real device ... These are some photos of our experiments to show the possibility of additional generation ...

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #77 on: May 03, 2021, 10:34:55 PM »
At the same time,
I was a very talented or maybe even a genius person and
I do not feel aggression because of belonging to his origin.
I feel respect for his work.
As you saying  You Ilya ,- you may be a genius, I don't fight with that.
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Regarding the most conspiratorial book. which is in the public domain dedicated to Heaviside says that just in his last works. which disappeared without a trace, there are only some fragments,
Heaviside described the Casimir effect, which was repeated by Lamerow. just says that the Physical Vacuum or Ether is not empty in the minds of people, the professor argued. who, after
Umov and simultaneously with Poynting, came to the idea. that energy enters the conductor itself from the outside.


How do the Russians know that  it was some "stolen"  work of Heaviside And they also  know that it  contained phrase:
"{Ether is not empty..}"
It looks  as if these Russians were trying to  say,  that it had to be  something  of value in that Ether... Wow..
Why is that Russians specifically  pointed  at that revelation, translating it likely from Russian  into  English and than back from English into Russian
and were quoting  phrases from that English version of it . :) as a proof of theft.
With all do respect to you and every Russian ...Dear Ilyia,  we live at civilized part of the world here...
We didn't murder Tzar with his wife, his children,  his servants, and children of his servants including  their pets  in 1918.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family
We didn't start WW2 together and cooperating with with Hitler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact#:
in September 17 1939  after invasion in Finland and Baltic's countries?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
And definitely didn't do what Stalin did  to Russian science.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science

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...the idea. that energy enters the conductor itself from the outside.
I agree, it is nothing new,
( example is an antenna resonating with  energy from outside - the EM wave )
But energy type , its source and properties, and its interaction with conductive medium  must be known, to do not become
another Russian  fake story.
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In the video from Veritassium. in which the description spoke of what Thomson assumed. that the atom consists of
Elementary particles and these particles are part of the cathode and the electrons themselves are part of the atom
escaping from the cathode, I showed that this is a complete delusion.
NO  !!!!
and one more time NO
.
This is original Thomson experiment leading to discovery of an  electron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Goyscbazk

 the text below is:
 
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NOT  THAT IMPORTANT BUT  HELPFUL -so you may skip it for now
Thomson also made an experiment where  anode was in one vacuumed tube and  anode was in another outer tube containing  the first one
glass is an dielectric.( look at the picture below)
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The dielectric constant of a glass is the ratio of energy stored in a condenser with the glass as the dielectric, compared with the energy
stored in the same condenser with air as the dielectric.///This measures the ability of a glass to store electrical energy, and varies with the frequency of the voltage applied to the condenser 
Air is dielectric
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Dry air is an excellent dielectric, and is used in variable capacitors and some types of transmission lines.


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So Thomson based on his experiment made  quite right answer that
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electrons themselves are part of the atom escaping from the cathode
If cathode and anode is not in that glass envelope than the electrostatic charge is deposited into:
-a dielectric  of the glass affecting also  the  outer air ( in space from source to the glass) as dielectric at first.
-and than this charge looks for your hand holding  it while moving  electrons in rarefied  leftovers in that  glass envelope.

But if you are not holding  that  glass tube ( the envelope) in your hands  than  there is a physical dimension  of that glass envelope that
according to inverse square law makes it at its closest  part  to  electrostatic charge  at potential  of  e.g 10 000V  and its far-most / farthest  side at potential of e.g 2000V only.
explanation  of it is in videos below


So  why  do the
influenced electrons leave  the cathode ?
Well.. free electrons are the electrons that are  at higher energetic level jumping from

shell K to shell N and out of influence of an atom becoming  than the  free electrons.

Some frozen in time Russians - they rather think about Bohr  planetary model of atom so shell will be for them an orbit
and phrase from above for them will look  like:

orbit K to orbit N and out of influence of an atom becoming than - the free electrons.
However tendency to get free is prioritized to an electron  being at outer shell as they need very little  additional energy to do it.

in this experiment by increasing electrostatic potential - we  are raising electrons into a higher shell till they are no longer bounded 
to an atom and becomes free electrons.
In electrical conductor these free electrons are responsible for carrying out electrical  potential measured in (e.g) eV or V 
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When an atom loses an electron,it becomes positive ion which is called cation.
 You know that the charge of proton  is positive (+1) and the charge of electron is negative (-1).
Besides,we know that an atom is neutral because the number of proton and electron is in same number.
https://chemistry291.
Another neighboring atom gains that not needed  free electron and becomes  anion but often accelerated electron knocks out  electron from another  atom and takes its  place.
Every time electron loses its energy in eV it must give out something and often this is  in form of a PHOTON
In gases we often  use terminology: -  positive or negative Ion ( instead of Anion Cation)
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And now Example with rarefied air enclosed in glass envelope, having no electrodes.
At first  part of video please look only around 2 minutes:
to understand how the  electric field  looks like and why is positive there.
https://youtu.be/QpVxj3XrLgk?t=1200
 
Than  please look at 2 minutes of this part of video  and think  about electric field  vector potential.
https://youtu.be/QpVxj3XrLgk?t=2586

The likely reason of some gases to glow  when enclosed in glass envelope  under an electrostatic variable potential is
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that the emitted electrons are able to move about freely from one end of the tube to the other.
https://ggn.dronacharya.info/EEEDept/Downloads/QuestionBank/Vsem/EMI/section-A/Lecture-3.pdf

But if we don't have any anode and cathode in that envelope  we still are dealing with properties dielectric of glass envelope and air as dielectric from  outside.
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And now what is PLASMA?
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Plasma is an ionized gas consisting of positive ions and free electrons in proportions resulting in more or less no overall electric charge,
typically at low pressures (as in the upper atmosphere and in fluorescent lamps) or at very high temperatures (as in stars and nuclear fusion reactors).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29
It consists of a gas of ions  – atoms or molecules which have one or more orbital electrons stripped (or, rarely, an extra electron attached), and free electrons

When it becomes ionized  it often glows in visible frequency  band at its characteristic to given gas atoms color, knowing that  N ( nitrogen) is influencing this process
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-50396-6

The same as  Ionosphere does due to Photons and
cosmic  ray activity

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Cosmic rays (also called cosmic radiation) mainly comprise high energy nucleons
(protons, neutrons and atomic nuclei). About 90% are hydrogen nuclei (a single proton with an atomic number of 1).
They have been stripped of their electrons and so are ionised

In Ionosphere that energy is send by photos from the sun and other cosmic radiation.
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Radioluminescence is the phenomenon by which light is produced in a material by
bombardment with ionizing radiation such as alpha particles, beta particles, or gamma rays.
Wikipedia
The only difference is that :
-  in Ionosphere the process   of photons depositing its energy into a mater( atoms of air) makes glowing of ionosphere .
-  in our glass tube  we are  using difference of potential between our body( hands) holding  a glass envelope  and HV variable potential  from Tesla coil.
video#2
https://youtu.be/QpVxj3XrLgk?t=2586
 




If we say that we have a certain closed circuit and a current is moving there, then this is just a mistake. since the luminescence of the light bulb can occur at that moment. when the electrodes are not inside the bulb.
Therefore, we must consider only the idea of ​​Poynting Heaviside about the movement of energy in space, and this space does not create charges from emptiness, it only transforms the apparent emptiness into the charge we observe.
https://youtu.be/SRCfl5pR8Kc
I showed this on alternating current and showed it on the example of pulsating direct current. where a nearby light bulb glows without direct contact.
What speaks in favor of Hertz's hypothesis that in essence it is a demonstration of Waves in Ether, Space, Environment, Physical Vacuum, call it what you want.
https://youtu.be/mGbCLJkwTMc



Conclusions:
In pure space vacuum you have no electrons and no particles  apart of EM wave(PHOTONS) that doesn't need any medium  to travel
If your  glass envelope was at  ideal vacuum  AND NO electron emitters , than  nothing would glow in it.

No matter how many names and processes you  are trying to throw into your  explanation it is just not going to help.
Your:
.. demonstration of Waves in Ether,
is just pure lack of understanding of nature  of plasma and its  behavior under  different conditions.
Your Ether doesn't exist
Nothing will glow if there is no  difference of potential.
There is no  publication of modern time admitting Ether/Eather existence.
Just find me one scientifically standing  explanation of what is Ether/Eather and what it does.

Move on my Russian friend  get out  form middle-ages  of Russian  science.. where   modern science  only started to exist.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #78 on: May 04, 2021, 01:25:15 AM »
to support my post from above
here is my vacuum chamber  in one of my labs:
https://youtu.be/ISoW1yhVpjs?t=442
https://youtu.be/MIfWgX8hA4A

I have few of them not only one.
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experimenting with ionized  particles was done with use not of eyes looking  at  glowing  particles but with
better than eye  photo-multipliers, photo intensifiers and chambers with Triethanolamine,  as a medium. also at high  voltage.
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=304
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I'm in particle physics as my  primary direction.

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Offline Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2021, 08:15:17 PM »
Greetings. Your Russian friend is not quite in the Middle Ages, but this does not mean that you could surpass the ideas of Umov, Poynting, Heaviside.

You start jogging with your ideas. which have nothing to do with my idea. Since I understand you are considering an idea. to which Lorentz was committed, who believed that Ether or the intermediate medium was immovable.
But you apparently do not use the words carried away Ether, partially carried away or completely carried away. But there is also such a thing as Dynamical Ether. And there are hypotheses about this. But if you had on hand, after long ordeals, a really working device. I think that you would probably consider the processes differently. You decided that for the transfer of energy, with the help of which the medium is used, which, under conditions of close-range interactions, must have energy, and therefore have an equivalent mass, you would not say so.

The problem is that you are just stuck in the ideas of the Middle Ages, although the same Hevside proposed the idea. which Casimir used in the Casimir effect, it is just that photons or so-called electrons are just born in the Dirac sea, we call this moer today the Physical Vacuum. But I have the word Vacuum because of your perception of the seeming emptiness to perceive the environment as a vacuum, just not to your taste.

You are telling me something on Thomson's pipe. But at the same time, for some reason, you did not bother to look at the fact that the gas flow does not require finding the electrode itself in the tube itself. Glow can occur if the electrode is not in it. Therefore, the movement of the "electron" from the cathode is simply excluded. What this speaks in favor of Hertz's hypothesis. who gave his idea that this is an indication of the interaction of gas with EM waves. The very same glow is photons, that is why they are cathode rays. which to the cathode itself. as a physical body have no relation. And the counting is the result of EM waves with the gas itself as a physical body, where this energy in the form of a photon comes out in the visible spectrum and nothing more.

You are just stuck in the ecology of Coulomb's time, who proposed an experiment with a torsion balance, in which there are two physical bodies in the form of a ball and Electromagnetic fields. which cannot be a separate substance from the environment itself, and it is precisely that which, in essence, is the very manifestation of the environment. Otherwise, all the silde interactions in the Coulomb torsion balance would have come from emptiness. And this is a complete discrepancy with your ignorance.

You are just stuck in the ecology of Coulomb's time, who proposed an experiment with a torsion balance, in which there are two physical bodies in the form of a ball and Electromagnetic fields. which cannot be a separate substance from the environment itself, and it is precisely that which, in essence, is the very manifestation of the environment. Otherwise, all force interactions in the Coulomb's torsional balance would come from emptiness. And this is a complete discrepancy with your ignorance.

I will not be surprised. if you are stuck in the idea that in a classical generator the energy in the conductor or winding is induced from the generator shaft. There is no such agent. which could transform the rotation of the shaft into the entry of energy from "your" emptiness, according to Poyngting-Heaviside, into the conductor itself.

If everything is not so, please tell me at least one working device. in which there is. what are you looking for? If yes - I am ready to take your point of view. If not, then all your reasoning has no practical basis.

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« Reply #81 on: May 07, 2021, 12:39:16 AM »
PART #1 answer  to :

Your Russian friend is not quite in the Middle Ages, but this does not mean that you could surpass the ideas of Umov, Poynting, Heaviside.

Chronologically :
I asked you to get out of Middle-ages of Russian Science.

Historical Middle-ages was:
The period of European history from the fall of the Roman Empire in the West (5th century)
to the fall of Constantinople (1453), or, more narrowly, from c.1000 to 1453.
Russia didn't EVEN gain  from  SCIENCE IN  period of classical antiquity   as Russia didn't exist yet.
Rus' state started  in  862 and was ruled ruled by Vikings.

But Homo erectus  migrated from Western Asia to the North Caucasus (archaeological site of Kermek) about 2 million years ago,
And  you as an representative of modern Homo erectus are standing in front of me now asking me to go back to year1644.

Nothing wrong my dear Russian friend .. we are all  animals - mammals.   :)
Aren't we?
 

I must agree that  ether(also spelled aether) was introduced into science by Descartesin Principia philosophiae in1644.
by René Descartes.....    but  Russia  was than  in middle ages yet. as East was   changing much  slower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_Philosophy
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The West  surpassed  the East, after centuries of inferiority, in the exploitation of the physical world.
https://www.britannica.com/science/history-of-science/The-rise-of-modern-science

AND THAT IS why I HAVE ASKED YOU TO GET OUT OF Russian MIDDLE-AGES.

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The history right before " modern science"  :

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the emergence of modern science during the early modern period, when developments in mathematics, physics, astronomy, biology (including human anatomy) and chemistry transformed the views of society about nature.[1][2][3][4][5][6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Revolution
The  observation,  identification,  description,  experimental  investigation,  and  theoretical  explanation  of  phenomena: new advances in science and technology, science of astronomy.
World was changing  and speeding up but EAST was  lagging behind with its Tzars ( Russian king)
and Russia was continuing   their - Archaic Knowledge,  especially  that  gained  through  experience.

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With the scientific revolution, paradigms established in the time of classical antiquity were replaced with those
of scientists like Nicolaus Copernicus, Galileo Galilei, Christiaan Huygens and Isaac Newton.[135]
During the 19th century, the practice of science became professionalized and institutionalized in ways
that continued through the 20th century. As the role of scientific knowledge grew in society, it became
 incorporated with many aspects of the functioning of nation-states.[136]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science#Modern_science
THERE WERE NO RUSSIANS THERE  YET ... science  didn't go there  that fast.
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Modern Science :

By the end of the 19th century,  (by Sir Francis Bacon,)
Science was moving ahead on all fronts, reducing ignorance and producing new tools for the amelioration of the human condition
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The ether:

look at  Part#2  right below


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PART#2

Dmitri Ivanovich Mendeleev  Дмитрий Иванович Менделеев, 8 February 1834 – 2 February 1907
-chemist and inventor,  best remembered for formulating the Periodic Law and creating a farsighted version of the periodic table of elements.
Between 1859 and 1861, he worked on the capillarity of liquids and the workings of the spectroscope in Heidelberg.
But if we compare today's Periodic Table and science it is much changed  .
And that is what "some"  Russian Pride  has a problem  with.
Please note  that he died  in 1907  10 years  before 1917 when everything  collapsed in Russia, due to  Soviet Revolution .
At  his death Einstein  Theory of relativity was only 2 years old.
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The ether:

The ether  was introduced into science by Descartesin Principia philosophiae in1644.
The ether(also spelled aether) was a concept in physics and it was made obsolete in 1905 by Einstein's theory of special relativity.

Umov, Poynting, Heaviside:
1.The Poynting vector is the watt per square metre (W/m ) was discovered byJohn Henry Poynting  in 1884.
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynting_vector
2.Oliver Heaviside (1850–1925), the value of which is zero for negative arguments and one for positive arguments.
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaviside_step_function
3.Nikolay Alekseevich Umov (Russian: Никола́й Алексе́евич У́мов;1846 – 15, 1915)
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Umov
 
For some  of these scientists theory of relativity and quantum physic was so much  unorthodox    and it came to late..
Umov  with his :  E = kmc2 with 0,5 ≤ k ≤ 1 as early as in 1873 was very close to later fame of Albert Einstein  .

Umov in 1874 had already solved a problem of the movement of energy in liquid and elastic media in completely generalized view.
However, the intense attention to this view has been attracted only after Poynting had presented a stream
of electromagnetic energy based on Maxwell equations [ten years later than Umov's publications].
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immediately after 1917 till today alcoholism  become not only russian problem but was widely spread to all occupied/controlled  by Soviet union territory as drunk man is half of his power to protest and very drunk Russian is powerless.

Written to all Russian human animals - mammals:
https://gradesfixer.com/free-essay-examples/dont-be-such-an-animal-placing-humankind-among-the-mammals-in-descent-of-man/
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Darwin says, “monkeys have a strong taste for tea, coffee, and spirituous liquors: they will also, as I have myself seen, smoke tobacco with pleasure” (Darwin, 23).
And here  we are at  very center of  our Russian Friend  confusion.
As I said I have very great respect to Russians as a people but that is all about that, and not much more than that..
No their history nor their structure, or set of values  since 1917 to its present governing and structural reality
is worth your stress and emotion my  dear Western World  readers.

But I had to  point at that  AS IT IS IMPORTANT  TO OUR EXPLANATION  why EATHER  died in 1905 and some of us still talks about it.





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In  1 January 1865 J. Clerk Maxwell (13 June 1831 – 5 November 1879) published his
A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field
http://www.bem.fi/library/1865-001.pdf
It was a great 4  formulas we use till today  .
that was foundation  the basis for  Albert Einstein  1905 revelation.
But he  was evolving in world  that had not yet  better theory  than  theory of Ether
The ether, in the view of Maxwell and almost all physicists at that time, permeates all space and has many of the characteristics of a polarizable dielectric.
 Maxwell was of the opinion that terrestrial optical experiments aimed at determining Fresnel's ether drag, which is quadratic [i.e., of order (v/c)2],
are not sensitive enough to detect the influence of the drag.
just remember that he was mathematician  only..

The ether concept became especially predominant in the 19th century by the work of Young and Fresnel who revived Huygens' wave theory of light. 
They replaced Newton's light corpuscles by waves propagating through the ether. In order to explain stellar aberration, first observed in the 1720s and
then shown to be caused by the velocity of Earth relative to the velocity of Newton's light corpuscles, Young (1804) assumed ether to be in a state of
absolute rest.  Maxwell  showed in the 1860s that light waves are electromagnetic waves transverse (perpendicular) to the direction
of the propagation  of the waves.
Following Young and Fresnel,  Maxwell assumed that electromagnetic waves are vibrations of the ether.
The Michelson-Morley Experiment
Albert Abraham Michelson disagreed with Maxwell, judging that it was possible to observe quadratic effects on Earth.
 he built an interferometer that was sensitive enough to detect effects of the order (v/c)2 and tried  to determine the speed v of Earth with respect to the ether.
Michelson aimed to measure the speed of the "ether wind".
 Edwin Williams Morley, a chemist from Western Reserve University, also in Cleveland. They built an new interferometer
and in August 1887 they measured again a null effect (a speed of  4.7 km/s or less was found, while 30 km/s was expected). [8

Heinrich Rudolf Hertz

in the mid-1880s when Heinrich Rudolf Hertz  was able to generate waves of the kind predicted by Maxwell.
(Hertz produced electromagnetic waves of wavelengths from a  centimeter to a meter, much longer than the wavelengths
of visible light that are on the order of 500 nm).

IT WAS The LAST DAYS OF ETHER .


SO WHAT ELSE WAS GOING ON THERE AT THAT TIME:

In the 19th century it was known that transverse waves are not possible in a gas or a liquid, but only in a solid; 
hence ether was thought to have solid-like properties.
Since light  behaves in closed rooms the same as in open fields, and many materials are transparent to light,
ether was assumed to fill up all of space and all of matter.
Thus, at the end of the 19th century physicists had  a picture of the ether as a quasi-rigid  solid
(not completely rigid because it can vibrate), luminiferous (light carrying) medium that is  massless and transparent,
at absolute rest, and present everywhere.
Today, the concept of ether does not play a role any longer in physics,

Newton

Newton in  1675  suggested:
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-three mechanisms by which light may proceed through the ether.
-"multitudes of unimaginable small and swift corpuscles of various sizes springing from shining bodies"
Hooke's and Huygens' in (1642 – 1727).
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All space is permeated by an elastic medium or aether, which is capable of propagating vibrations.
This aether pervades the pores of all material bodies and is the cause of their cohesion; its density varies from
one body to another, being greatest in the free interplanetary spaces.

Thomas Young and Augustin-Jean Fresnel.

Thomas Young revived the undulatory (wave) theory of light in 1800.[4].
He noticed that Newton's emission theory:
a light source emits corpuscles—had problems with the interference
of light and with the simultaneous refraction and reflection of light falling under an angle on the surface of water.
Augustin-Jean Fresnel. Both  recognized that  stellar aberration needed to be explained by undulatory theory.
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Ether in the second half of the 19th century:
Michael Faraday,
one of the fathers of electromagnetism, had a strong dislike of hypothetical entities for which no convincing experimental evidence existed.
he was  skeptical about the existence of the ether.

Oliver Heaviside

1889 Oliver Heaviside, one of the founding fathers of electromagnetic theory, impacted Ether  good !!:[11]
His question of the motion of the ether.:
 -Does it move when "bodies" move through it, or does it remain at rest?
-what is the speed of the Earth and light on Earth with respect to the ether.
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Decline of the ether (1905)

At the end of the 19th century the ether served two purposes:
-first and foremost it was a transport medium for electromagnetic vibrations.
-Secondly it offered an absolute frame of reference.

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The death knell of the ether tolled in 1905, when Einstein published his special theory of relativity.[13] [14]
Einstein assumed that an absolute reference frame does not exist and, even more than that, he showed that physics is not in need of such a frame.
He declared that all inertial frames are equivalent, one cannot prefer one over another (see special relativity). At one stroke he solved the problem of the speed of light, too:
-this speed is the same in any inertial frame, and is independent of
the velocity that a frame may have with respect to any of the infinitely many other inertial frames. In his 1905 paper Einstein refers to the ether only once:
The introduction of a "luminiferous aether" (Lichtäther) will prove to be superfluous inasmuch as the view here to be developed will not require an "absolutely stationary space"
provided with special properties, nor assign a velocity vector to a point of the empty space in which electromagnetic processes take place.



Defenders of the ether still remained after 1905, however, since a number of physicists failed to read or understand Einstein,
and those who did, came only gradually to a full appreciation of its impact on the ether.
Not until about 1910 did the general opinion of physicists shift away from the ether.
Among the more stubborn hold-outs were Oliver Lodge, A. A. Michelson, and Joseph John Thomson.
This older group of physicists gradually died out and was replaced by a new generation that had grown
up with Einstein’s theory and for which ether was an esoteric historical concept like phlogiston.

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history of ether/eather is here  click on that link



So why we have problem with our Russian friend here  :


look in PART #3
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PART #3
So why we have problem with our Russian friend here  :


In 1917 group of Russians decided to  dethrone the Tzar ( king of Russia)
Russians murdered Tzar with his wife, his children,  his servants, and children of his servants including  their pets  in 1918.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family
started WW2 together and cooperating with with Hitler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact#:
in September 17 1939  after invasion in Finland and Baltic's countries?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
That is what  Stalin did  toRussian science.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science
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Russia  changed to Soviet Union  known  as CCCP:
In 1961 however Soviet Union  had in full motion the best ever Russian invention
The system of Russian Education
.
That system started in Stalin time
but in 1961 till 1990 it was in its most perfected from .
It was system of oppression when everything that was  from Western World  was bad and
everything in Soviet  Oppression and terror system was good .

Soviet education system was  for free at every level and helped not only Soviet. Russia
but other countries under soviet terror to get  the best in the world wide education .
As much as Scientists were imprisoned  and working as slaves in Russian Sharahskah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka
for them it was better than death.

Sergei Korolev 1907 – 14 January 1966)

was tortured  in Rusian concentration kamp and  made possible
for Russians to  send Gagarin to space ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev
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so what was so good in that Russian education system: ?
Stalin and all soviet regimes killed more  people than  the number of totally  lost in battle in WW2 by every country involved.
Some figures oscillate between 40- 75 millions but even if we cut it in half it is still minimum 25 millions
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_repression_in_the_Soviet_Union

So he was in need to have  replacement for these who  were "eliminated" - liquidated  by terror and its troiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_troika

Education was very broad  including art , (singing,  playing instruments, sculpture,painting)
Russian and  Polish and Czechoslovakian , and Rumanian,  Hungarian... all of them they had  long school hours and
- "no sorry .. you must perform!!!"
Millions of  very broadly educated people were better  than any nation in the world in almost everything ..
Yes it is hard to believe in it  right?
Typical Russian could draw , sing, repair car, saw, project and build a house, weld, work on
lathe and milling machine  - the  nation of omnibuses..
People  there were living in constant fear .
They didn't know  any longer what they are  afraid of .. That fear made them to learn
because if they don't than!!!.... Well they didn't have any longer  any  idea what the consequences are ...
Nothing was set,  Fear was like a sickens, you could live with it  somehow, and even forget that you are in pain.


For Stalin terror  it was good.
If he was in need to arrest or terminate  anyone, it was always  an army  of people with similar skills ready to
take their place.

Think about  factory of spare parts:
 And you have  plenty parts  waiting just to be  used so you as a tzar can brake every rules of humanity
and your mechanism is still operational.


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Western World didn't have such  broad education and was not in need for it.
That made people becoming narrow professionals but  extremely good one

1  Russian could  do that what 10 different  Americans could do but it took him 20 times longer
as he was not good in anything   yet.
Yes thanks to  being  educated  in so many fields  Russians adapted very quickly
and that  helped them survive and succeed if they were lucky to  run form Soviet  territory.
Western system of values was just better  for  narrow professionalism and high level of skills.
Civilization is ruled by  need to  learn quick,become good, make money .
Narrow  professionals need others who are  narrowly good in something else.

THERE IS NO APPLICATION  FOR  OMNIBUSES-
Genius of kids.. is recognized  by speed  of collecting knowledge and skills but doesn't have application.
It is just  a public attraction.

Second problem for Soviet Union was that educated people have needs other than only
basic  survival.  That created opposition and made more scientists to be killed or imprisoned.
After collapse of  CCCP in 1990  there was  banditism , mafia, poverty
and collapse of  everything including soviet system of education.

The new mutant was born on the  dirt of CCCP :
-the Russian Federation
that is till now for past 21 years
ruled by  Putin.
Propaganda:
Again if something was done and it was not Russian it is bad...
All media belongs or are under control of Russian government
Science is politically  and ideologically controlled .
You are no longer  rewarded by your scientific  value but by
bribes, connections, theft, falsification of someone  else work .

2 days ago Russian government decided that they can steal
any inventor  intellectual property because they need the technology .

can you believe it?
https://www.ip-watch.org/2016/04/18/russia-new-amendments-would-allow-use-of-inventions-without-permission-of-patent-holders/

Old teachers died out .
New teachers  earn around $170 per month.
The young  Russians are looking to way out from Russia.
101 years from  Russian revolution Russia is going down.

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Russian Nation  is  very much driven by national values, love to the country 
intensified by propaganda pointing  at their  achievement ..
It is easier  to  make zombi brains  instead of paying  for the brains.
by that  any form of criticism of Russian science or anything that is Russian  is
in Russia punished by law.

Example:
Even standing on the street  with empty piece of paper in your  hands - is considered protest up to 3 years in prison.
For "like" under video or twit  sometime  people get 7 years of heavy prison.
Russian Constitution says something  but life in Russia says something else.




Conclusions:

In all of it  that is me  who with  all respect to our Russian friend  is making  comments and in Russia  I would be punished  by law.
I wish him the best  I can
I would love to  see him here in New York USA where most of us is/are not  that widely educated as Russians
that already died  out naturally  or with help  of  Soviet Terror.
And new ones  grow up as no longer  omnibuses as  soviet  system  doesn't exist any longer.


The worst  and most difficult task is to explain  to some Russians that they are fundamentally mistaken.
Some  of them are brainwashed  and aggression is their  form of  reaction  in such...
Criticism is not about  insulting you Ilyia but about  civilized way to  show you that you are totally wrong.
I can be wrong too.... but not at this time.

Instead of trying to dispute  with  Ilyia about his  challenges in science and "Dynamic Eather"
https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays-Gravity/Download/5055
 by Lew Paxton Price
I decided to  create  explanation  of evolution and  history of Ether/Eather and how science  rejected it.

For these who still have problem with it  there is  fundamental question:
Show me  just one  convincing  explanation of Eather in wikipedia  or  any  scientific publication.

https://www.tau
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« Reply #84 on: May 07, 2021, 06:31:42 AM »
Greetings, I don’t have a lot of time to conduct controversy, since I now spend a lot of time experimenting and organizing my own projects. I will try to explain one point - Einstein is not an engineer, and most likely. that he did not hold a soldering iron in his hands. All Einstein did was to pack some of the work beautifully. which he, as a showman, was able to popularize. Questions. which he tried to consider in the theory of relativity and the special theory of relativity is a mathematical continuation of Lawrence's attempt to explain some phenomena by the method of mathematical abstraction. But the mathematical abstraction built on motionless or other ethers was correct. except for the hypothesis of motionless ether. Lorenz could not give an explanation of inertia, although some American scientists who introduced the concept of Ether made just an attempt to explain what inertia is, as a certain state of Physical Vacuum, which manifests itself in no way carried away or motionless, but dynamic. This logic of thinking appeals to me. Because these explanations do not help in considering those processes. which I consider in my experiments.

But the interaction of the physical body and the Physical Vacuum (Ether) is a more complex concept than Lorentz's clumsy attempts to explain it. because this is a more complex topic than just shrinking or transforming in space and time coordinates.

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I don’t have a lot of time to conduct controversy,
no my dear Russian friend - it is not true that you  have no time.
-you simply  have nothing to say in form of response,.. and you are the controversy..

Einstein is not an engineer, and most likely. that he did not hold a soldering iron in his hands.
 All Einstein did was to pack some of the work beautifully. which he, as a showman, was able to popularize.
Yes I agree it is possible. most of surgeons in our civilized part of the world didn't  use solder gun too.


Questions. which he tried to consider in the theory of relativity and the special theory of relativity is a mathematical continuation
of Lawrence's attempt to explain some phenomena by the method of mathematical abstraction.
But the mathematical abstraction built on motionless or other ethers was correct. except for the hypothesis of motionless ether.
Dear Russian  you can't provide me with scientific evaluation of  motionless Eather  vs Dynamic Eather  or Eather  at any form and any scientist
paper after 1945.



Lorenz could not give an explanation of inertia, although some American scientists who introduced the concept of
Ether made just an attempt to explain what inertia is, as a certain state of Physical Vacuum,
which manifests itself in no way carried away or motionless, but dynamic. This logic of thinking appeals to me.
Because these explanations do not help in considering those processes. which I consider in my experiments.But the interaction of the physical body and the Physical Vacuum (Ether) is a more complex concept than Lorentz's
clumsy attempts to explain it. because this is a more complex topic than just shrinking or transforming in space and time coordinates.
My dear Russian - You can't even provide me  the names of these Americans who  introduced Eather  and these who fallowed  their steps..


Think about yourself  Dear Ilya Tsimbaluk as about Russian who is looking at perfectly made  scientific bread.
Every piece of this bread is at Swiss, German, American  quality  and standards.
example:
GDR occupied  by Soviets made Trabant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant
GDR  is Germany now .. 
 compare :
-that GDR only after few years of freedom  from Russian/soviet occupation. 
with
-Russia today..
 
 


But for Some Russians it is too perfect, and is drastically outperforming  any Russian top Hi Tek.
As Russia now is only  a cheap gas station for  the world.
Nothing or almost nothing is made there .
Russian science is devastated , life  condition too,
freedom of you saying how "Russian bread" is bad  makes you to go to  jail.

And you are  looking now at early stage  of this piece of art created by  Western world.
You are looking at  some mistakes they made  in  the  early days of that science.
And yes you right.
Yes some postulates of our scientists were mistaken, wrong,
but we corrected it and in Russia they likely  didn't.



So because of these and  other uncorrected mistakes Russia of today is feudal,mutant  (at level of $170/ mo  in average) of  soviet collapse suffering  from delusional
ideas of its dictators . Surrealistic Russian reality doesn't react with answers.
 You Ilya are likely the miniature copy  of it.
I would like to see you prospering, famous, wealthy, happy, and free,
I wish you the best my friend

Wesley
 

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A. A.Einstein and his Autismn !


B. probably he also worked "as solder" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.muenchen.tv/historische-fakten-albert-einstein-und-die-wiesn-12217/


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
Munich and school education until 1894The family moved to Munich shortly after Albert was born in 1880 , where his father and uncle founded a small business for gas and water installation in October 1880. As this was economically satisfactory, they decided in 1885, with the support of the entire family, to set up their own factory for electrical devices (Elektrotechnische Fabrik J. Einstein & Cie) . [8] His father's company was successful and supplied power plants in Munich-Schwabing, Varese and Susa(Italy).



Switzerland 1895–1914The way to study: Matura in Aarau




In the spring and summer of 1895 Einstein stayed in Pavia , where his parents lived temporarily, and helped out in the company. He made trips to the Alps and the Apennines and visited his uncle Julius Koch in Genoa . During this time, the 16-year-old Einstein wrote his first scientific work, an essay entitled On the Investigation of the State of Ether in the Magnetic Field, [16] and sent it to his uncle Caesar Koch (1854–1941), who lived in Belgium, for assessment. The work was never published as a scientific contribution in a journal and remained in the form of a discussion contribution. [17]




Do You both know this work ? I not !


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMarcel_Grossmann


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHeinrich_Friedrich_Weber


From the first publications to the famous formula E = mc² (1905)
→ Main article : History of special relativity

Einstein's dissertation, 1905


Albert Einstein on a German special postage stamp for the year of physics 2005In 1905, at the age of 26 , Einstein published five of his most important works:On March 17, 1905, he finished his work on the photoelectric effect , which he then published as On a heuristic point of view concerning the generation and transformation of light [27] .On April 30, 1905, he completed his dissertation A New Determination of Molecular Dimensions, [28] with which he submitted his doctoral application to Professors Alfred Kleiner and Heinrich Burkhardt on July 20 at the University of Zurich . He chose the University of Zurich because there was an agreement with the Polytechnic where Einstein had studied, and the Rigorosum (oral examination) was not required there. In his dissertation he calculated the size of sugar molecules in solution and from this a value for the Avogadro constant. It is related to his work on Brownian molecular motion, published in the same year, and supported the atomic hypothesis , which at the time was still controversial among leading physicists ( Wilhelm Ostwald , Ernst Mach ). The work was accepted relatively quickly by Burkhardt and Kleiner (the doctoral procedure was completed in July). Paul Drude , the editor of the Annalen der Physik, to whom Einstein had sent the work, was not satisfied with the value found for the Avogadro constant and asked for improvements, which Einstein also delivered. [29]This led to a six-month delay in publication and Einstein was therefore only formally awarded his doctorate on January 15, 1906. Four years later (1909), when Jean Perrin's experiments became known, Einstein turned to Perrin for an experimental review, and at the same time Ludwig Hopf , whom Einstein had asked to review his dissertation, found a mistake in his dissertation that was the result had falsified. Einstein then sent a correction to the annals in 1911. [size=0.75em][30]His publication on Brownian molecular motion followed on May 11, 1905 : On the motion of particles suspended in liquids at rest, required by the molecular kinetic theory of heat. [31]On June 30, 1905, Einstein submitted his treatise on the electrodynamics of moving bodies . [32] Shortly afterwards, Einstein made his addendum. Does the inertia of a body depend on its energy content? [33]The latter implicitly contains for the first time the most famous formula in the world, E = mc² (energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, equivalence of mass and energy ). Both works together are now known as the special theory of relativity .The year 1905 was therefore an extremely fruitful year, one also speaks of the annus mirabilis (miracle year). Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker later wrote:

“1905 an explosion of genius. Four publications on various topics, each of which, as they say today, is worthy of the Nobel Prize: the special theory of relativity , the light quantum hypothesis, the confirmation of the molecular structure of matterthrough the 'Brownian movement', the quantum-theoretical explanation of the specific heat of solid bodies. "

- Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker [34]The steps up to the new theory of gravity When Einstein started the long journey from the special to the general theory of relativity in 1907, he was still a largely unknown employee in the Bern patent office.


At the end of the road, in 1915, he was a professor in Berlin who was already highly respected in specialist circles, who, as Max Planck later said, could only be “measured by the achievements of Johannes Kepler and Isaac Newton”.

[35]
The road to the general theory of relativity began in 1907 with the flash of inspiration that Einstein called "the happiest thought of my life" [36]referred to, on the other hand, with a limitation of his previous work on relativity, which was of a fundamental nature. The latter was the insight that the speed of light under the influence of gravity is not a constant, the special theory of relativity could only be valid under the condition that there was no gravity, as Einstein repeated in an essay from 1911: “The theory of relativity has shown that the inert mass of a body increases with its energy content. (...) The so satisfactory result of the theory of relativity, according to which the principle of the conservation of mass merges into the principle of the conservation of energy, could not be maintained. " [37]
The flash of inspiration, on the other hand, concerned the equivalence between inert and heavy mass, i.e. the correspondence between the constant acceleration of a reference system and gravity: “I was sitting on my chair in the Bern patent office when the following thought suddenly occurred to me: 'When a person is in free fall 'Then she doesn't feel her own weight'. I was amazed. That simple thought made a deep impression on me. He drove me towards a theory of gravity. " [38]
However, more than three years would pass before the first paper in which this flash of inspiration led to a more detailed physical formulation, because "From December 1907 to June 1911 (...) Einstein did not comment on questions of gravity," said his friend and Biographer Abraham Pais . [39]

In 1908, however, there was a groundbreaking innovation that Einstein was initially skeptical about and which he even dismissed as “superfluous erudition” [40] : the mathematical formulation of space-time by his former teacher Hermann Minkowski , whose authorship of this revolutionary concept was later by Einstein was expressly recognized and appreciated. [41]

In the Minkowski space , the relative ratio of the sizes of space and time in the special theory of relativity can be clearly represented as a rotation by setting an imaginary unit of time. It was not until 1912 that Einstein was convinced of the advantages of the Minkowski room.

Some of the most important essays of the later general relativity theory at a glance:About the principle of relativity and the conclusions drawn from it.About the influence of gravity on the propagation of light. According to Huygens' principle, Einstein only found a deviation of the light rays from fixed stars near the sun of 0.83 arc seconds, [42] the value calculated using the field equations of 1915 was 1.7 arc seconds. [43]Draft of a generalized theory of relativity and a theory of gravity. I. Physical part of Albert Einstein. II. Mathematical part by Marcel Grossmann. [44]Nordstrom's theory of gravity from the standpoint of the general differential calculus. With AD Fokker . [45] A reaction to Gunnar Nordström's alternative theory of gravity and a "publication which is of considerable interest for the history of general relativity because it is Einstein's first treatment of the theory of gravity in which general covariance is strictly valid". [46]To the general theory of relativity. November 4, 1915.Since the still conventional definition of the distance in flat (not curved) Minkowski space does not apply equally to curved spacetime, it had to be replaced there by a more abstract expression, just as a geometry was required with which Gauss's surface theory of curved spaces was required could be expanded in four dimensions. Einstein's mathematical knowledge at the time was insufficient, so in 1912 he turned to his former fellow student Marcel Grossmannwho was now professor of mathematics in Zurich. Einstein had “asked him to go to the library to see if there was a suitable theory for dealing with such questions. The next day Grossmann came (...) and said that there really was such a geometry, namely Riemannian geometry. " [47]
As a result, Grossmann not only sought out the works of Riemann , but also those of Christoffel , Ricci and his pupil Levi-Civita , some of which were already doing research on the absolute differential calculus in curved spaces, the formulation of the Christoffels symbols for tensor analysis and the covariant derivation had developed the mathematical instruments in the 19th and sometimes only in the 20th century, which now proved to be indispensable for the formulation of the general theory of relativity. [48] [49]
However, it took another three years to formulate the idea of ​​a gravitational field in which the metrics of the four-dimensional, curved spatiotemporal continuum and the factors of energy and momentum are mutually dependent, which Einstein achieved on November 4, 1915 .



Discussing about A.Einstein needs also to know his scientifical ambient and with whom he disputed "Quantumphysics"-questions !



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Thank You
Dear Lanka IV
Great  lecture
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« Reply #88 on: May 07, 2021, 08:12:18 PM »
I don't quite understand what you are writing to be honest.
I personally am not attached to anything or anyone.
I’m here only because there’s a forum to discuss alternative physics issues. energy and so on. Are you sure that this is a historical forum dedicated to Russia?

I perfectly understand that now, in terms of the development of startups, Silicon Valley is one of the sensational places where minds from all over the world flock, not only from Russia. And of course I am working on the installation. to present your devices exactly there.
I have no class. no political prejudice.

I personally do not identify myself with any Russian or any science at all. I do my own business, everything else does not interest me.

Now let's talk with you about Einstein.
Let's talk with you about the fact that in his early works, Einstein, first of all, contradicts himself with his thought experiment, where he flies on a frozen ray (wave) of light. First of all, the contradiction itself arises for the reason that the presence of a ray of light in space is initially considered in this image based on Maxwell's ideas about Ether, in which there is a medium in a frozen state. That is, a thought experiment is based on an environment with some properties.

We deliberately restrain ourselves from touching upon the point of logical internal consistency in this passage (Grunbaum) [6]; we rather call attention to the “intuitive” conclusion it leads to: as a spatially oscillatory field at rest “does not make sense,” no observer, ie no material body, can reach the velocity c… Other authors are less ready to admit the problem as they struggle to clarify Einstein's remarks. Holton (1988, p. 311) finds Einstein's narrative to have… its exact parallel in the 1905 paper, in the conceptual leap from a simple experiment (indeed, also a kind of Gedanken experiment — the relative motion of conductor and magnet) to the general principle from which the content of relativity theory will derive. Here Holton refers to the magnet and conductor thought experiment that initiates Einstein's famous 1905 “On the electrodynamics of moving bodies,” (Einstein, 1905) in which he first presents special relativity. That thought experiment derives from a fact in ether-based electrodynamics. A magnet at rest in the ether is surrounded by a magnet field. A magnet moving in the ether is surrounded by a magnetic field and an induced electric field, arising through the magnet's motion. One might expect this electric field to be an experimentally detectible sign of the magnet's motion in the ether, for one can detect the electric field from its ability to create a measurable electric current in a conductor in the vicinity of the magnet. Yet, Einstein reported, a curious combination

What's the problem here lies in the fact that just does not understand Einstein in power electronics and is poor at that. what Umv, Poynting and Heaviside deduced.

But let's touch on the “frozen wave”.
first of all, Einstein's mind, like the world of Western man, is highly disposed to confuse that which does not relate to things. which relate to the environment or their derived fields as to fields, and to consider the physical body as physical.
This is due to the fact that Einstein most likely viewed the world as a seller. the western world is built on trade, and it requires a clear form in the mind of the buyer this or that value through a physical object. Therefore, the penchant for mathematics of Lorentz and Einstein is quite obvious. After all, trading cannot be built without mathematics. and in the era of that time, value is determined by the tangible, what can be seen. touch, eat, smell.

But the question in Einstein's head was based on the fact that the light that he sees is what belongs to Ether. But in fact, the whole situation is completely different, and since Einstein is not an experimental practitioner, he could afford such frivolity. Namely: Electromagnetic waves. that the cell phone emits is impossible to smell or see, touch. You don't see them.
Take a laser pointer, turn on the LED in it, if the room is ideal in terms of air purity and infinitely large, we will not see this beam. But as soon as fog appears in the room, you will immediately see it. what do you see at laser shows.
Same. what Thomson saw in his Thomson pipe.

Of course, that Ether. which Einstein imagined was the generation of a stream of thought, which was based on the fact that the “frozen light” represented in the head is light. If a monkey is given a banana, then most likely the light will be associated with just this banana, although the banana is a reaction of Electromagnetic Waves with nerve endings in the eye, that is, the reaction of Ether with the Physical body.

But what's the problem with the banana monkey? the problem of inability to separate the information received from the truth in your head. And hence the imposition in mathematics of the world's notions that the world is a banana. therefore, light or electromagnetic waves that are associated with something frozen have nothing to do with each other.
And hence the formulation of the question is posed incorrectly in general and suggests that. that Einstein clearly did not set the task of getting to the bottom of the truth.

Now about the flying magnet and the conductor. If we are talking about the fact that there is a certain environment in a certain state. which we perceive as emptiness. does not mean that it is. the Heaviside thought experiment, the Casimir effect and the Lamer experiment prove that. that Physical Vacuum or Ether is precisely the environment in an active state. But not empty. but what's the problem. in which Ether is the problem?

The problem is, strange questions arise in the brain of a primate with a banana flying through space. If we are flying relative to something, then this something should affect me and the banana itself. but the question is - if they are already flying in open space. who makes them fly? At one time, no one doubted that this was the prerogative of Ether. But if the primate is holding a banana and a rotating conductor relative to the magnet, then the question does not arise: what happens to what we are flying with respect to why this does not affect the electromagnetic processes between the magnet and the coil.

The thing is that the primate is a very stupid creature and, sitting on a tree, did not think about that. that it does not understand at all in electromagnetic processes.
Namely: namely, in what they actually tried to convey the idea of ​​Minds, Poynting, Heaviside.
The bottom line is that they were just trying to convey the idea that energy does not spread from the rotation of the winding. which the monkey turns relative to the magnet, that is, from the fact that the monkey needs to exert efforts to rotate this magnet as a physical body.

The thing is that just the energy in the conductor itself comes from the Physical Vacuum or Ether, which is influenced by the rotating magnetic field together with the magnet. But we know for sure. that the energy spent on magnetizing the magnet and the energy that enter the conductor are completely different types of energy. So is the magnetic field of a magnet. and the magnetic field of the winding is two magnetic fields. In order to create a counter flow, as pointed out by Lenz. you need a second thread. This main stream creates the opposite one, because you have two streams.

But Einstein was not an engineer. therefore he could not assume that an electromagnetic wave. which arises in the antenna of the receiver due to the electromagnetic wave of the transmitter forms its own magnetic field.

Therefore, if an electromagnetic wave flies in space at the speed of light, this means that this flow of energy will not be able to create a flow of energy relative to a physical body in the form of a surfer. Therefore, if this flow of energy cannot enter the conductor, then from the conditions it does not enter there and does not affect this physical body, with the help of which this flow can manifest itself. And for this I do not need to come up with another frame of reference with my time.


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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #89 on: May 07, 2021, 11:50:57 PM »
This is the installation. in which we have proved that mechanical energy and electric energy are different types of energy and that mechanical energy does not have an element. which is capable of directly converting into electrical. as it is commonly believed. Surprisingly. but came to face a misunderstanding of the processes. which originate around the guide described by Poynting-Heavside.

It's very strange to watch. as some people try to explain some points to me. in which, for some strange reason, the conversation about that is forgotten. that the flow of energy is carried out precisely due to the environment in which there is that amount. which is just that in the form of a closed system and is used by modern electric motors.

If we were talking about Einstein, then why not remember the antipode - Heaviside. who worked with telegraph lines and was the first to guess. that just energy is carried by Electromagnetic fields in this very environment. surrounding the conductor and is carried over.

Electromagnetic waves do not propagate monolithically, they propagate in waves. even hitting a bar carries energy in waves. because in addition to the physical body itself, it is the environment that takes part.

For some reason, it is still considered. that superconductivity is carried out due to the pairwise movement of electrons in the conductor itself, and often electrical engineers are complete nonsense about where the charge is and what the current is. If electrical engineers understood. that energy and that. what we want to perceive as electrons just in a superconductor does not move, it just happens. what a mass. that comes from outside the superconductor does not fall into the crystal lattice zone.

All attempts. which Einstein tried to do - to use the Lorentz transformations. who, in turn, tried to explain how the movement of the light source is connected, the movement of the light wave in space relative to certain inertial systems.

But here's the question in the World Cup - what is a charge? I told you about that. that this is just a forceful interaction of an electric field and a physical body. electron. How an elementary charge does not have to be a physical body itself)

But is it logical to call an electric field a charge? No, these are photons. But where do they come from? They are taken from the environment. Let's call it the Dirac Sea. in which, when positive energy or a positive charge is removed from the volume of space, negative energy will be formed.
so you have excellent video equipment Mr. Wesley. I would love to work on it. as I did video editing)
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