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Well well well so much for the water pump, so what does it do ??

This one I can under stand  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOYrv3iakE

on another subject is G Sav a member ?


Have a look at his youtube thread.

Nice video on the pump.  Here is another one using a different concept :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHJmYeFkJU8


Gravity based rather than Ram pump based and available to purchase.  They say it will last a lifetime.   I believe he stated it could pump up to 400 meters head.   


It would seem if that can be done - even a hundred feet would provide enough to run a water powered electric generator.   So FREE ENERGY !   Since the pump uses no power - am I missing anything here?   I thought in the past ram pumps could do this but they tend to wear out fast and are hard on the device whereas this device is easy, smooth and built to last a lifetime.   


I did not take time to see fully how this pump works so I'll admit I might be missing something here as far as it's use for generating electricity.   Anyone? 

POST 784 SHOULD ENLIGHTEN YOU E2D2.

POST 784 SHOULD ENLIGHTEN YOU E2D2.

In what message thread?  I only see about 335 messages in this one.

Triki, Hi!


The real answer is "No!"


There are no systems here that produce energy from nothing.


There is a lot of confusion here, lot's of crazy, and a few that know a lot, and lurk.


The lurkers that know stuff is what we are all hoping to entice into a discussion that makes us each seem like the center of the Universe for a day.


Want an example?  After a couple of decades, I'm looking for CIA sanction to build the coil of my dreams.  Coil array actually.


We're all like that here.  And I'm not talking about the small minds that insult and demean while claiming they're so smart.


I saw one guy kept replying to himself, and in two or three days was complaining that he should have the Nobel prize, but nobody will even listen to him.


We're not all that bad.


Some of us are paranoid that what we know is so valuable that the whole world will try to steal it --precious.  Those kind die with their misgivings... or their gift, whichever way, they die with it.


Though, there was one guy way back in the 90-s I saw bought-out by an oil company for his innovation with fluid-suspensions of piezoelectric elements spun in a golden-geometry ovoid.  Not sure which forum.  Like, way back, before Yahoo physics chat rooms had sx-bots.


Innovation does happen, for sure, all around us.  Looking for it here is like going to a biker bar for an interior designer.  You might find one, but may get a few teeth broken out trying.


Please do tell me, Triki... Do you have an over-unity concept you would like to discuss?


Here you will not find any science about overunity.  You will not find discussions that drill down, but shrink-into a vein of thought.


The thought veins here aren't often principled, or that kind of thinker would find this environment maddening... like superstition about electromagnetics on parade.


That's what I think I see when I read things on here... the thoughts may be complex... but they are not rooted in a principle that relates to why things are done, and what causal reality is involved.


There just ain't no physics here.  Not for long... no career physicists will come close to this place, or a biker bar.


This place is a shelter to afford people a cargo-cult experience building things on a hope. That's what cargo cult is.


I'm a cargo-culter, technically... I was 'touched by the excitement' decades back... and always have hoped that somehow if I hope well enough that some angel will gift me a crown of cosmic knowledge.


In my cultish approach, eventually it worked.  It wasn't an angel... but because my nose was sniffing every crack and under rocks others wouldn't touch, my angel turned out to be a near-death-bed disclosure by an Area 51 guy. But here, huh!  I can't even get a topic started in the concept space to develop what I'd love and live to share.  It's spiritual for me to share about a living universe... but here...   


This place is not designed for contemporary knowledge, let alone designed to accept novel ideals... unless one of the cult-figures has broken through into the lime-light, and developed the most adopted lingo that many forum threads begin to use.  Yet no principle discussion.  Principles here get stepped un and flushed, simply because the terms aren't within the community cargo-lingo.


Years later that remain only the thread-of-the-moment, of ideas that were realized as unfruitful, yet, while these ideas were in vogue, small minds were insulting others for not being in on the 'know' about so much blo.


When you're here, you're in the biker-bar of cult-pseudo-science... where the plus to the community is a few mixed nuts that can help... the rest build stuff.  Stuff they talk about.  Stuff they hope will reform mankind.  (Unless real study into science is involved, can't have education talkin here.  Got to be cult talkers that don't get smeared by small minds here.)


But us cargo-culters are good people.


There is no reform for us. 


We are the hoi polloi.




DonEM an old guy --formerly Codasaurus Hex

Most people claim that a simulator will not exhibit OU due to the fact that all the components and equations fit the classical electromagnetism model.  This logic stems from the idea that classic electromagnetism can not produce OU but this is simply not true as can be proven by the attached simulation.

This sim utilizes RLE (Reduced Lenz Effect) plus a transformer design that has a low coupling factor, a high ratio of primary to secondary inductance, and a constant current inductor.  The low secondary inductance along with the low k factor means the primary inductance drop is minimal during the time the secondary is shorted.  This results in a large portion of the primary inductance charging energy to be returned to the supply during the primary collapse when the secondary is shorted and the current in L5 is frozen or clamped.  This is the source of energy gain for this device under classic electromagnetism!  The one criteria for this operation with this present design is the relatively high DC supply voltage.  Also the shorted secondary L2 reverses current direction during the cycle.

Referring to the sim, the net input energy taken from Vs is 26.877uJ.  The charging of the primary L1 stops at 10us and the energy in L1 is then returned to Vs while at the same time, the gain in current in L5 is clamped at 112.36ma.  With a starting current in L5 of 100ma, the energy gain is (.11236^2)-.1^2)*.025/2 = 32.81uJ.   

The cycle ends at 19.91us where the current in L1 is zero but there is +107.14ma remaining in L2.  With a starting current in L2 of -100ma, the energy gain is (.10714^2-.1^2)*.0015/2 = 1.11uJ.

Therefore the COP = (32.81e-6+1.11e-6)/26.877e-6 = 1.26 .

Regards,
Pm

If I was asked what my idea would be to build an OU motor, the answer would be:
First, throw out everything you know about electricity. If, for over 100 years, we cannot see that a different direction must be taken, then the information given to us is totally useless, therefore stop trying.
Second, all the research must include knowledge of how electricity creates matter from 2 spectrums - red and blue and uses 4 octave pressures. Better still, it uses 4 multiplication efforts to compress matter. Walter Russell would be an excellent start concerning this subject.
Third, which is just as important, is common sense. To build a motor and use only one side of the coil, as is used today, is not practical whatsoever. Now we can see that it didn't take us too far. Learning how electricity actually works, one could add a few small details that would improve efficiency. I have given you, in my opinion, a good starting point.
Best Regards