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Author Topic: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?  (Read 12623 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2021, 05:47:04 PM »
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed ?  The idea that energy
or that energy as matter can either spring from "nothing" or become "nothing" is from
any truly scientific perspective silly.  It is barely merits consideration because .....
- there is no such thing as "nothing" !
How then is it that this seemingly key scientific concept (conservation) hangs from such a
shabby frame work ? 
Conservation's contribution to Newton's observations is as nothing ?.


The only functions the  "laws" of conservation have are as:

             1. Newton's observations.
             2. distraction from the one of the few facts known, which is that all answers lead to yet         
                 more questions, or else ..... they lead to dogma.
simple answer:
We know that we know nothing.
But we know that something.. that is more than that nothing.
Peoples progress is based on our assumption  that their  something is more than  their nothing and they will pay to us  for more  of that something (if we deliver.)
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Nothing
- is considered  to be the starting point leading us to   our something or our imaginary something.
And here you are having something that  is an effect of progress.

In the process of our progress we named phenomena  correctly as we are the only judges here and that is already something of value to us .
However  new forms of understanding pushes us to  correct that what we thought was correctly named a hundred years  ago or so..
And for that we created  models in physics.
From that point it is us having control over correctness... of models
Eather/Ether  or overunity was never a model but conceptual theoretical and eventually rejected   nonsense .

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 However  there are elements of humanity around us seeing discomfort from that correctness.
-Priests and their religion pushing followers, or any other  money exchanging structures,
-organizations, and governments  seeing believers and religions as state of comfort or tool to rule over the crowd.
- charlatans, bandits,  terrors ..including Eastern European  country of Terror  (with their Tzar.)
- business structures that will collapse due to scientific developments  i.e  Energy..
all of them see destruction  of their own small ruling elite.

But that what I see  is scary.. if FE  is given out.
 - The End of Human population, the  Apocalypse man made, the  destroyed  food supply by  overpopulated humanity due to easiness of life.

Could I  be a beginning of it...
Sure I could or more accurately Dr Hans.
So what is  next..
It will come sooner or later as there are people that will get to the same results..
So the yet unknown..something  will include that what  I and my friends in science don't yet know..didn't yet find out ..  in that process of  progress ..


Wesley

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Offline partzman

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2021, 06:15:49 PM »

[snip]
But that what I see  is scary.. if FE  is given out.
 - The End of Human population, the  Apocalypse man made, the  destroyed  food supply by  overpopulated humanity due to easiness of life.

Wesley

Wesley,

So your opinion is that we suppress FE?  If I have an FE device then I should sit on it? 

How do we then control the overpopulation, thru eugenics?

Surely there must be a better answer?

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Pm

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2021, 06:50:05 PM »
Wesley,
So your opinion is that we suppress FE?  If I have an FE device then I should sit on it? 
How do we then control the overpopulation, thru eugenics?
Surely there must be a better answer?
Regards,
Pm
There are many different ways to many different  energy conversions.
It is not only Kapanadze.. concept..

You going to have FE sooner or later  it exist  I have seen it touched it and played with it.
It is no magic, no God or Gods are involved in it 
and actually  based on science ..no God could  do it as they are not recognized there .
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The nuclear bomb was made by science and scientists only because general population  didn't yet get into if fast enough.
 And this is a source of Energy and it is FE too..
after  500 dollars of investment  in Russia everyone could build it  to use it  at home..
This was a one time cost of the device  giving  6kW/h of nuclear energy for next 100 years.
Elite Russians had  plenty of it in  their vacation houses..
Some  of these were abandoned and not controlled serving as light houses for ships in remote  islands in Russia.
It was enough  for one to get there  in boat an take it... and it happened  in the past

It can destroy too... so is gasoline in your car , so is dynamite,... only the scale is different.
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So what should you do is up to you..
If  someone build such device, tomorrow, it is entirely his  decision what is next..
Nor me nor my friends are smarter than you.
Yes we are not...

If you spend enough time in any field  you will know  the same or more ..
My own objections or  fears  means nothing  to you or anyone.
It will only be important if I  as emotional creature decide  to say more just because:
-my beautiful 24 years younger wife makes me  upset ( never happened  at all for all of these years)
  https://youtu.be/xAXXaNJzwjE?t=21 
  https://youtu.be/l6uPHxQVEgQ?t=185
- or Eastern European Tyrant  will push me, one more time... or make me to  be no longer.
- or I'll say one day  enough is enough..
and that can  happen even tomorrow..


Wesley

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2021, 06:50:05 PM »
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Offline partzman

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2021, 07:59:11 PM »
Here are a couple of more papers that may be of interest.

Regards,
Pm

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2021, 12:00:13 PM »
Please have a look to that ! It shows how the Antigravitation works :
https://t.me/gravitonisparticel

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2021, 12:08:07 PM »
Please have a look to that ! It shows how the Antigravitation works :
https://t.me/gravitonisparticel


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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2021, 02:57:19 PM »
How many times have we heard that?
bi

1 too few i would suspect.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2021, 03:03:37 PM »
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OverUnity implies a closed system. It goes against reasoning to think that you can take a 1 gallon jug of water and pour out more than one gallon of water.

Wrong.
That can be easily done without adding any water from an external system.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2021, 03:08:20 PM »


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Dear fellow researchers.
 Few Myths Debunked.
As much as you and I will like to see overunity or ..."something for nothing"...
-we need to understand that :
-physics is based on models.

Physics is based only on the tried and tested.

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Overunity          -  doesn't exist  and will never exist and is laughable as a term.
Perpetual Motion-  is not important to us if was ever  in existence .. it is like spending 1 dollar to gain 1 dollar...

Incorrect.

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Energy can't be created nor destroyed

No,but an imbalance can be created in a closed system.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2021, 04:39:08 PM »
Physics is based only on the tried and tested.

I agree but:
As an experimental science, physics utilizes the scientific method to formulate and test
hypotheses that are based on observation of the natural world.
The goal of physics is to use the results of these experiments to formulate scientific laws,
usually expressed in the language of mathematics, which can then be used to predict other phenomena.
and for that physics needs to  stand on models as something that can be  improved, changed or rejected.

So  your  "tried and tested."  is than written  and presented  in form of models.

In physics, a model (or idealized model) is a simplified version of the physical system
that strips away the unnecessary aspects of the situation, used  abused tried and tested again..
http://www.romanfrigg.org/writings/Models_in_Physics_REP.pdf
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Overunity          -  doesn't exist  and will never exist and is laughable as a term.
Perpetual Motion-  is not important to us if was ever  in existence .. it is like spending 1 dollar to gain 1 dollar...
Incorrect.

if so than why it is incorrect?
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Energy can't be created nor destroyed
No,but an imbalance can be created in a closed system.
imbalance has nothing to do with creation or destroying of energy 

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2021, 07:13:42 PM »
Almost all answers in this thread are off-topic.
The simple question was: "Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?"

No one answered with 'yes' so far.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2021, 07:53:45 PM »
Almost all answers in this thread are off-topic.
The simple question was: "Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?"

No one answered with 'yes' so far.

I disagree with your statement .

answer:
if  something is impossible than it can't be done.

explanation:
overunity doesn't exist so a device producing  overunity "gain" will never exist.

example:
 It is like asking god - to respond to you  and explain   the nature of his/its  miracles


science of physics stand point:
at first:
  For Physics god doesn't exist and as such can't be recognized.
at second: 
  There are no  miracles that non existing god can make  or  ever  was able to make

Wesley
 

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2021, 08:00:14 PM »
No,I never constructed an overunity system !
Yes,I participated active in a project with an electric motor  KW output/VA input ratio over 1,over 10,over 100,...  !
The physical application object as electric motor and application  claims becamed patent office peers tested and the rights approved !

I can make measurement  faults,

we as experimental group can make measurement faults

Also : patent office peers can make measurement  faults ?!



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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2021, 08:04:30 PM »
overunity doesn't exist so a device producing  overunity "gain" will never exist.

So then we can close this forum ?  It's called 'overunity.com'.

I think everyone knows what 'overunity device' means in this context: a device which is running without any known external energy input and which produces some useful energy output. Of course energy can not be created from nothing.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2021, 08:14:59 PM »
So then we can close this forum ?  It's called 'overunity.com'.

I think everyone knows what 'overunity device' means in this context: a device which is running without any known external energy input and which produces some useful energy output. Of course energy can not be created from nothing.
I explained it but you didn't read it up there...
 You can name  your  cat  "overunity."
 You can name   a forum   "overunity."
 that is only an abbreviation
 so  because:
everyone knows what  is 'overunity device'
we use  term: FE  Free Energy or Energy for Free..
The benefit of it is that no one will laugh from you...at the very moment  you use this  words.

Wesley :)
 

 

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