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Author Topic: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?  (Read 34167 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #270 on: May 23, 2021, 06:24:43 PM »
https://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_todre.html


In this detailed, futuristic vision he described a means of tapping the sun's energy with an antenna.


Beside "water power",later !


the tower :


For his new construction project, Tesla acquired land on the cliffs of Long Island Sound. The site was called Wardenclyffe. By 1901 the Wardenclyffe project was under construction, the most challenging task being the erection of an enormous tower, rising 187 feet in the air and supporting on its top a fifty-five-ton sphere made of steel.


 Beneath the tower, a well-like shaft plunged 120 feet into the ground. Sixteen iron pipes were driven three hundred feet deeper so that currents could pass through them and seize hold of the earth.

 "In this system that I have invented," Tesla explained, "it is necessary for the machine to get a grip of the earth, otherwise it cannot shake the earth.


 It has to have a grip... so that the whole of this globe can quiver."


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&q=Quiver+meaning&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj77rL4m-DwAhVM1xoKHT2TC5gQ1QIwHXoECA0QAQ&biw=1366&bih=574


it is not a passive system and more than only an antenna !

https://www.mouser.com/blog/tesla-fails-to-power-the-world-without-wires
Tesla also demonstrated his scheme in Colorado Springs, CO, where he had built a “magnifying transmitter” that lit incandescent electric lamps placed as far as 300 feet away from it.




In which year he demonstrated the " magnifying transmitter" ? Showing which effect ? Sourced by ?





Attention : chronos/time table !


https://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_todre.html  1901 view,


Then on December 12, 1901, the world awoke to the news that Marconi had signaled the letter "S" across the Atlantic from Cornwall, England to Newfoundland. Tesla, unruffled by the accomplishment, explained that the Italian used 17 Tesla patents to accomplish the transmission. But Morgan began to doubt Tesla.




                                        Marconi's system not only worked, it was also inexpensive.




1905 view ,




to

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320335847_Geoengineering_Tesla's_Wireless_Power_Transmission -1924 view

https://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_wendwar.html


In 1931 Tesla announced to reporters at a press conference that he was on the verge of discovering an entirely new source of energy.

What set Tesla's proposal apart from the usual run of fantasy "death rays" was a unique vacuum chamber with one end open to the atmosphere. Tesla devised a unique vacuum seal by directing a high-velocity air stream at the tip of his gun to maintain "high vacua." The necessary pumping action would be accomplished with a large Tesla turbine.

and 2021 chronical review !


https://thelivingcoach.wordpress.com/category/tesla/



Tesla’s breakthrough realization of the nonlinear dynamics of multi-frequency oscillations in the infrasonic range was seeded during experimentation with a pocket-sized electro-mechanical oscillator in 1888.


The unusual circumstances of this astonishing experiment were briefly given to a reporter from the New York World-Telegram in 1935, describing Tesla’s accidental production of localized earthquakes and acoustic levitation of multi-ton generators and other heavy metal equipment at his East Houston St. laboratory:


I was experimenting with vibrations. I had one of my machines going and I wanted to see if I could get it in tune with the vibration of the building. I put it up notch after notch. There was a peculiar cracking sound… I knew I was approaching the vibration of the steel building. I pushed the machine a little higher. Suddenly all the heavy machinery in the place was flying around. I grabbed a hammer and broke the machine. The building would have been down about our ears in another few minutes. Outside in the street there was pandemonium. The police and ambulances arrived. I told my assistants to say nothing. We told the police it must have been an earthquake…

That experience inspired Tesla’s invention of the Gravity Motor, tapping the limitless power of acoustic resonance by generating standing waves within a drum. Tesla’s finest, most suppressed invention was discussed in a psychic reading for Thomas T. Brown given by trance channel Edgar Cayce on March 8, 1928 in Chicago, at the LaSalle Hotel, a luxurious palace hotel conveniently located across the street from the Masonic Lodge, a well known establishment of the American-Nazi industrialists (Reading 4665-1):

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #271 on: May 23, 2021, 06:55:44 PM »
Translation of  my response to AlienGrey into Russian:
Когда все, что требуется, это стоячая волна? Не могли бы вы объяснить, как стоячая волна генерирует полезную мощность?
- когда  доктор Корум доставляет энергию в свою башню Tx Tesla, между Верхним конденсатором и землей создается стоячая волна.
Когда положение верхнего конденсатора настроено на желаемый угол Брюстера, энергия, захваченная стоячей волной, поступает
на двухмерную границу раздела земля / воздух, однако это можно регулировать не только точным подъемом верхнего конденсатора,
но и фазирующими катушками. любая из методик вызывает точно такой же эффект.


Цель состоит в том, чтобы энергия стоячей волны входила в границу раздела-интерфейс, без отражения и преломления.
Требуется больше геометрии и математики, а не только угол Брюстера, поскольку волна Ценнека в режиме TM
 на интерфейсе синтезируется в соответствии с уравнениями Максвелла.

link- TM Mode

Но требуется еще один фактор.
Катушка Тесла должна видеть нагрузку с другой стороны интерфейса !!!
Если нет, - то энергия поступит в интерфейс без потерь, онa будет просто сидеть там, ожидая любой нагрузки, которую онa может найти,
-и которая соответствует требуемому характеристическому сопротивлению нагрузки и условиям приема.

Вот почему онa намного более эффективнa, чем традиционные электрические медные линии высокого напряжения,
доставляющие энергию от электростанции в традиционной электрической сети.

И когда я говорю об извлечении энергии из волновода Шумана - это наша CE - процессы в точности такие же.
Пространство между ионосферой и землей содержит стоячую волну !!!!!



Не могли бы вы объяснить, как стоячая волна генерирует полезную мощность?
Стоячая волна не генерирует никакой энергии.
Это просто состояние, в котором энергия удерживается внутри стоячей волны из-за несоответствия импеданса.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave

Почему вы все время показываете картинку взрывного детонатора, изобретенного по приличию - "decorum"

Это доктор Корум (не"decorum"), и это башня Визива Тесла.
У нас есть Илья, который может не понимать, о чем мы говорим, и попросил включить визуальное представление / визуальный опыт рассматриваемых явлений..

look here: https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg557946/#msg557946
Russian translation is here: https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg557959/#msg557959



Парни: пробуйте поймать меня кое на чем, что является вздором
-  на техническoй или научнoй чепухе
-  на глупых или обманчивых словах
-  на техническом или научном   бредe... каком то.
Я бы хотел это увидеть

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #272 on: May 23, 2021, 07:20:57 PM »
next question is regarding 1/4 wave phenomena
as that would fall on the energy peek. Perhaps you could explain that pls
I may not understand fully your question so sorry if it is not exactly want you expected:
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A quarter-wave impedance transformer, often written as λ/4 impedance transformer,
is a transmission line or waveguide used in electrical engineering of length one-quarter
wavelength
(λ), terminated with some known impedance.
It presents at its input the dual of the impedance with which it is terminated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter-wave_impedance_transformer
The λ/4 transformer is the other way around;
it is a pre-determined length and the termination is designed to produce the required impedance match.

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Peak demand, peak load or on-peak are terms 
describing a period in which electrical power is expected to be provided
for a sustained period at a significantly higher than average supply level.

but I'm sure that it is not you wanted  to ask me for.
You are possibly alluding to: the highest amplitude of the wave  in  one-quarter
wavelength
(λ) resonator.
Answer: The maximum amplitude is seen
when impedance of the load e.g antenna / e.g  Tesla Coil
matches the impedance of the output of Tx( transmitter)
or  in case of the Rx:
-matches the impedance of the input of Rx receiver antenna and connected to it  input of the receiver.
We often use 1/4 wave resonating antennas and coils  as it is convenient
to us to build much shorter structure of an antenna or much  smaller Tesla Coil.
look here for exact  answer:
how much gain does a 1/2 wave dipole have over a 1/4 wave dipole?
https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/1-4-wave-vs-1-2-wave-antenna.232457/

But  if you are talking about EMP I can't provide the answer for you here on the forum
As this is  very much real  or "more than real" for Zenneck wave . This kind of  questions  must not
be answered or no answers must be provided  to unknown reader.!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse




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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #272 on: May 23, 2021, 07:20:57 PM »
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #273 on: May 23, 2021, 10:09:34 PM »
Sure EMP is something else that distroys all yer test gear isn't it ?

There are so many circuits (one on colors thread) where
the guy appears to be collecting the peek of the 1/4 wave amplitude, just  how it works is a logic
thing i have gone all through his posts on the subject but it appears to be a secret squirrel thing


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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #274 on: May 24, 2021, 07:40:41 AM »
Now we are not talking about the fact that energy can be transmitted through the air. Although there is a question of efficiency. The question is, do you have a device. which gives it or not. If not, then it makes sense to change the rhetoric and deal with physics.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #275 on: May 24, 2021, 12:16:57 PM »
Now we are not talking about the fact that energy can be transmitted through the air.
You used word - we
who is -we?

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It is  you only who says
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we are not talking about the fact that energy can be transmitted through the air
without reading  and watching, right?
_ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _
-link to step by step explanation was given to you.
-link to few video was given to you. Videos are in Russian !!!
-I also translated my answers into Russian and you still don't understand it.
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The impedance of free space is 377 Ohm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_of_free_space
The Brewster  Angle is practically not ~52 but  varying to 68 degrees.
Practically if we calculate  Near Field base/near-field-calculation-and-beam-divergence it will  apply to
ELF too, with some variations, however  beam forming  is questionable at VLF.
 
Dr Corum  used phasing coils in Viziv tower.
I used  vertical elevation up /down of top capacitor- and that is also included in Dr Corum  patents
to achieve conditions of  Brewster  Angle
 -but there is much more than that required.
If we were to refer just to Brewster angle alone, we would end up  with e.g vertically self polarized wave
because the meaning for that special angle is to point at its special behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_angle

But on the other hand  We don't want any reflection and refraction!!!
We want  the energy from standing wave measured and seen from the perspective of top capacitor 
to enter interface without  refraction and reflection.
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546827/#msg546827

Please  understand it Ilya as  I'm not in Russian flea market
yelling around and repeating  the same phrase  all over again.




Now we are not talking about the fact that energy can be transmitted through the air.
The efficiency mentioned by General of US Army General Michael Miller  the head of Viziv Technologies was 86%
https://youtu.be/wFiW2lqdnlM?t=672

My own tests show efficiency 92% to 96% in average at the test site having fixed Rx/Tx .
look at the picture below
That  result may vary due to:
-interface - (variation and ground  electrical  properties immediately  next to Rx/Tx)
-frequency ( the lower the better)
-more accurate data  will be possible when test includes longer distances between Tx and Rx
 so some error in measurement  may still exist.
Inverse square law still apply but it affects EM wave differently in the interface.
The lower the frequency the lower  are the losses.
Dr Corum  literature: " at Schumann frequencies, and its  higher  harmonics - losses are omittable. "
note: Zenneck Wave in the  interface at TM mode behaves different  than EM in free space.
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The question is, do you have a device. which gives it or not. If not, then it makes sense to change the rhetoric and deal with physics.
Dear Ilya: is your problem reading or understanding what you reading?
I did answer you question in« Reply #198 on: May 19, 2021, 06:32:15 PM »
https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg557816/#msg557816
and in spoken form  in Russian language my answer to your question is here : https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=1067

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #276 on: May 24, 2021, 12:51:57 PM »
The easiest way is to let state Mr. Michael Miller,PhD and beside Brigade General ,but for Viziv Technologies being CEO and President :


https://dallasinnovates.com/meet-the-innovators-brig-gen-michael-w-miller-viziv-technologies/


What problem are you solving with your product or business?


Lack of basic resources in developing nations: 06 billion people do not have access to reliable electricity (World bank report – 2013).


Our technology will be a global economic catalyst, especially in developing countries. Our clean, safe, reliable and affordable wireless power systems will bring hot meals, clean drinking water, advanced medical treatment and greater access to educational resources to the billion plus people around the world without power.


Underutilization of renewable resources: Our wireless power system will bring stranded and underutilized renewable resources onto the global market.

Inefficiency of energy supply chain: By allowing generation to happen where the fuel source is located, our technology will reduce the amount of hazardous fuels (natural gas and nuclear material) being transported. Future power plants, renewable or otherwise, will no longer need to be located close to densely populated communities, but instead, will be placed near their energy source.

Vulnerability of our current global positioning and navigation systems: Using a Zenneck surface wave, our navigational system will use less infrastructure, less energy, cover a much larger area, and not rely upon expensive satellites. A tower transmitting a few thousand watts could provide a signal covering a region the size of the entire continental United States. This can be used to develop redundant global and regional positioning and navigation capability governments have been seeking.

Lack of electricity in the wake of natural disaster: Utilizing Viziv’s wireless power technology will shorten disaster outages by weeks or months. Restoring electricity after a natural disaster is a time-consuming step-by-step process. Power companies first must restore power plants, then repair transmission lines, then bring substations online, and finally, restore power for homes and businesses. Utilizing Viziv’s wireless power can speed up this process.


1.advantage : https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/total-losses-in-power-distribution-and-transmission-lines-1


It is fact that the unit of electric energy generated by Power Station does not match with the units distributed to the consumers. Some percentage of the units is lost in the distribution network.
This difference in the generated and distributed units is known as Transmission and Distribution loss. Transmission and Distribution loss are the amounts that are not paid for by users.

T&D Losses = (Energy Input to feeder(Kwh) – Billed Energy to Consumer(Kwh)) / Energy Input kwh x 100

Distribution Sector considered as the weakest link in the entire power sector. Transmission Losses is approximate 17% while Distribution Losses is approximate 50%





This system is an effective POWER TRANSMISSION and Teleporting CONCEPT ,wireless !


Less losts/higher efficiencies compared cable-grid  means less power production/generation ( and GHG emission) need !

Attention if we think about dimensions :


 A tower transmitting a few thousand watts could provide a signal covering a region the size of the entire continental United States. This can be used to develop redundant global and regional positioning and navigation capability governments have been seeking.


A few KW per tower for signal sending


A few ( first numbers wrong by me,overcalculated with factor 1000x,now corrected ) 


millions towers with few KW potential  for power transmission if in global dimension designing  !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption#:~:text=In%202016%20the%20total%20world,used%20for%20heat%20and%20transportation.
 The world's electricity consumption was 18,608 TWh in 2012.This figure is about 18% smaller than the generated electricity, due to grid losses, storage losses, and self-consumption from power plants (gross generation. Cogeneration (CHP) power stations use some of the heat that is otherwise wasted for use in buildings or industrial processes.

18,6 TWh = 18600 GWh = 18 600 000 MWh = 18 600 000 000 KWh divided 8766 hours =


        2 121 000  KW tower capacity for transmission and consumer receptor  installation ( 2012 consume !)


Only the electric energy sector ! The 2012 global primary energy consume :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption#:~:text=In%202016%20the%20total%20world,used%20for%20heat%20and%20transportation

  Energy supply, consumption and electricity  :  go to the right side consume table ! ::)
                             
                                         155,505            TeraWatthours
                                       (Mtoe 13,371)





                                                   From fossil to electric ?!



The global per capita KWh a. primary energy    b. electric energy average,   the national per capita max. /the per capita min. !?

https://www.irena.org/-/media/Files/IRENA/Agency/Publication/2021/March/IRENA_World_Energy_Transitions_Outlook_2021.pdf



In 100 years conventional https://www.automoblog.net/2012/10/06/maglev-cars/ sourcing
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/04/d1/4904d1d8dc3340469f2f6e171a706fd4.jpg  SciFi movie "5th. ELEMENT " MAGNETIC TRACK


https://engineering.purdue.edu/~mikedz/ee301/FrequencyRanges.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_machine#:~:text=Sessions%20will%20typically%20aim%20to,based%20on%20the%20desired%20effects.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleforce  ;)  Grenzenlose Science ?


So nebenbei ,vulgo btw , EMP1 and EMP2 artificial nuclear detonation concept by Dr.Pavel Imris,Csc.
and related " the international stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_Nuclear_Test_Ban_Treaty "
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3706385&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet-assisted_transfection frequency ?!




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
Some of the main capabilities of HAARP include:


Generating very low frequency (VLF) radio waves by modulated heating of the auroral electrojet, useful because generating VLF waves ordinarily requires gigantic antennas


Generating artificial Airglow, which is typically subvisual but routinely detectable.  Under certain geophysical conditions and transmitter configurations, it can be bright enough to observe with the unaided eye.[15][16]


Generating extremely low frequency (ELF) waves in the 0.1 Hz range. These are next to impossible to produce any other way, because the length of an antenna is dictated by the wavelength of the signal it emits or receives.


Generating whistler-mode VLF signals that enter the magnetosphere and propagate to the other hemisphere, interacting with Van Allen radiation belt particles along the way
VLF remote sensing of the heated ionosphere






                                                  The "overunity"-effect and its ratio ,publicated :


The facility officially began full operations in its final status of 3.6MW transmitter power in the summer of 2007, yielding a maximum effective radiated power (ERP) of 5.1 gigawatts or 97.1dBW.




                                         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_radiated_power ;D 8) :)

In spite of the names, ERP and EIRP do not measure transmitter power, or total power radiated by the antenna, they are just a measure of signal strength along the main lobe.


They give no information about power radiated in other directions, or total power. ERP and EIRP are always greater than the actual total power radiated by the antenna.


                                        And here : ?
 


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19941018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.




                                       2,4 milliwatts/ 6 microwatts = 400      5,1 GigaWatt/ 3,6 MegaWatt = 1417

And this by each diode
 
The above test used diodes with active diode areas of 10@-4 cm@2 as convenient to the fabrication and the tests. In the theory of the quantum reversible process, the output voltage is not dependent on the area of the diode electrodes. The test results do not support the existence of any electron thermalization process in which any significant fraction of the hot electrons is first thermalized to an equilibrium temperature for electrons. This thermalization process is not compatible with the experimental results, since approximately 10@13 watts per square meter of input power is needed to heat the thermalized electrons to the electron temperature of 6000 DEG K. for an electron photon thermalization time of 10@-12 seconds.


 This electron thermalization process is also not a physically realizable process for this input power, since the material of the diode is destroyed in less than 10@-12 seconds by this intensity of incoming photons. This power is 6 orders of magnitude larger than the test power for the conversion process of 10@7 watts per square meter that was used in the experiment. These results support the conclusion that the thermal energy of the hot electron is directly converted into electromagnetic energy before any electron thermalization occurs.



                            10 000 000 Watts/sqm diodes array converter 






                            economical/commercial view :


                            at first : radiation concentration/compression/intensification potential https://www.osti.gov/biblio/7031165


                            Disclosed are multi-stage systems for high flux transformation of solar energy allowing for uniform solar intensification by a factor of 60,000 suns or more. Preferred systems employ a focusing mirror as a primary concentrative device and a non-imaging concentrator as a secondary concentrative device with concentrative capacities of primary and secondary stages selected to provide for net solar flux intensification of greater than 2000 over 95 percent of the concentration area. Systems of the invention are readily applied as energy sources for laser pumping and in other photothermal energy utilization processes. 7 figures.






                                                                     Yater diode array :

                            if unconcentrated 90% Carnot-based efficiency assumption and               25 US$cents/Wp selling costs


                    1333 W solar radiation constant /sqm= 1-sun factor = 1200 Wp output x 0,25 US$ or 25 $cents


                                                                            = 300 US$/sqm Yater diode array



                                               
                            300 US$ / concentrated 10-suns factor = 300 $/12 000 Wp output     =     2,5 US$cents / Wp


                            300 US$/ concentrated 100-suns factor= 300 US$/ 120 000 Wp output =  0,25 US$cent / Wp




                            Question : beginning with which   sun factor or output per scm  device cooling becomes obligation for no destruction ?

                            Posssible solution : https://www.technologyreview.com/2008/05/16/220503/a-cool-trick-for-solar-cells/

                            solar cells and also high concentrated power transmitter (WPT)


                           
                           East-Germany R&D : related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_lens

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=dd&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=manfred+gregor&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search




Nun,zu guter (vor-)letzt ,        last,but not least  :


                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal-to-noise_ratio#:~:text=Signal%2Dto%2Dnoise%20ratio%20(,power%2C%20often%20expressed%20in%20decibels.




                                                   signal-to- noise  or signal-to-thermisches rauschen 


  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rmerauschen or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise




                                        Easy,is it not,Wesley ?                    é muito fácil ,não é !?


Reply #184  " I will rewrite  your response a little: " a. You changed the statement its order


                                                                          b. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernmeldegeheimnis#:~:text=Im%20%C2%A7%20119%20Strafgesetzbuch%20wird,Fernmeldegesetz%20vom%2013.%20Juli%201949.


The secrecy of telecommunications is a fundamental right protected in the constitution of many states. It is usually supplemented by the confidentiality of letters, in Germany also by the confidentiality of the post. In more recent terminology, it is also referred to as a telecommunications secret and forbids the unauthorized interception, suppression, exploitation or distortion of telecommunications, telex, telephone, radio and telegraph messages.





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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #277 on: May 24, 2021, 06:30:01 PM »
 lankaiV I have no time to respond now. I'll do it later
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #278 on: May 25, 2021, 12:52:24 PM »
I have to recorrect the #278 world consume number based by given statistical data


 https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/239764/umfrage/weltweiter-stromverbrauch/


Attention if we think about dimensions :


 A tower transmitting a few thousand watts could provide a signal covering a region the size of the entire continental United States. This can be used to develop redundant global and regional positioning and navigation capability governments have been seeking.A few KW per tower for signal sendingA few ( first numbers wrong by me,overcalculated with factor 1000x,now corrected ) millions towers with few KW potential  for power transmission if in global dimension designing


  !https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption#:~:text=In%202016%20the%20total%20world,used%20for%20heat%20and%20transportation.


The world's electricity consumption was 18,608 TWh in 2012.This figure is about 18% smaller than the generated electricity, due to grid losses, storage losses, and self-consumption from power plants (gross generation. Cogeneration (CHP) power stations use some of the heat that is otherwise wasted for use in buildings or industrial processes.


                        the numeric error : instead TWh to use PWh !



Electricity generation[edit]The total amount of electricity consumed worldwide was 19,504 TWh in 2013, 16,503 TWh in 2008, 15,105 TWh in 2005, and 12,116 TWh in 2000. By the end of 2014, the total installed electricity generating capacity worldwide was nearly 6.14 TW (million MW) which only includes generation connected to local electricity grids.[17]


 as example :  19,504 TWh in 2013  means : 19 PWh + 504 TWh or    "19 virgula 5 PWh "




  so here in physical dimension the amount to correct :

18,6 TWh = 18600 GWh = 18 600 000 MWh = 18 600 000 000 KWh divided 8766 hours =   


     2 121 000  KW tower capacity for transmission and consumer receptor  installation ( 2012 consume !)

Only the electric energy sector ! The 2012 global primary energy consume



                        to correct real consume numbers
  by FACTOR 1000





 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption#:~:text=In%202016%20the%20total%20world,used%20for%20heat%20and%20transportation 


Energy supply, consumption and electricity  :  go to the right side consume table !                                                         
           
              for primary energy consume

             155,505            TeraWatthours                                       (Mtoe 13,371)




         = 155                   PetaWatthours



             for electric energy consume 2012


19,7 PWh = 19 700 TWh = 19 700 000 GWh = 19 700 000 000 MWh = 19 700 000 000 000 KWh


in KW/year  =                                                                                     2 244 000 000


                                                                                             in words : 2 billions two-hundred fourty-four millions Kilo-Watt

                                                                                            divided few KW tower capacity


 19 700 000 000 000 KWh electric / 7 052 135 000 habitants 2012 =

 
                                      2793.5 KWh electric per capita/annum

https://www.bpb.de/nachschlagen/zahlen-und-fakten/globalisierung/52758/verbrauch-pro-kopf


Der Primärenergie-Verbrauch pro Kopf lag im Jahr 2014 weltweit bei 1,79 Tonnen Öläquivalent. Oelaequivalent = OE


https://www.energie-lexikon.info/oeleinheit.html  1 790 x OE = 1 790 x 11,63 kWh =


                                     20 818 KWh /capita/a     primary energy consume


                                         important if changing from "fossil to electricity"


https://www.altair.com/newsroom/articles/what-is-5g-and-why-are-there-so-many-new-antennas/
                                         as technological/target similar development ( frequency spectrum difference)




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  in words : 2 billions two-hundred fourty-four millions Kilo-Watt   divided     few KW tower capacity =


   how many coil antennas/emitter-collector-receiver -towers in numbers      /per sqmKm (  habitants=user/consumer/sqKm !) ?








                               2012-2021-2050 average consume ? a. electric            b.  total    primary energy to total  electric ?




                               22 billions four-hundred millions Kilo-Watt  divided few KW tower capacity


                              never possible in decades ( mineral exploration/refinement, production/transformation capacity,economics)


                             1 century : probably !


                              ramset :        2121  ! 2021-2121 : for a well outlook !







https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-electricity-outlook-idUSKBN2A92QU
https://www.statista.com/statistics/201794/us-electricity-consumption-since-1975/


4 Trillion KWh ( or 4 000 Billion KWh) divided 320 Mio  USA habitants = 12 500 KWh electricity consume/habitant/year


+ CO2-from air-scrubbing energy consume (400+ppm down)
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #279 on: May 25, 2021, 05:56:18 PM »
Your best bet is the udt of Raymond Paul Jensen and the flux diode to give Lenz a different path and more room, aka asymmetric flux linking. He gave it away but people apparently don't want to find.And this https://patents.google.com/patent/US6707208B2/en

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #280 on: May 25, 2021, 08:02:41 PM »
DO DEFINE NUMBERS RIGHT IF FARLY DIFFICULT :


https://medium.com/predict/how-far-are-we-from-wireless-electricity-94dbd48529a4


According to Global Energy Statistics, the world’s total energy consumption in 2019 was 13000 Million Ton Oil Equivalent(MTOE).
This translates to 17.3 Terawatts of power.

( clearing :


  But this statistical number is the total primary energy global consume 2019 ,also written as 583,9 Exajoule )


http://www.kylesconverter.com/energy,-work,-and-heat/tons-of-oil-equivalent-to-terawatt-hours


13 000 Million Ton Oil Equivalent =     13 000 000 000 tons oil equivalent            = 151 190 TWh




 This 151 190 TWh dividing 8766 hours  gives/"translates" as worlds power/energy consume       17,25 TW ( per hour )




desert and/or space solar farming :
https://medium.com/predict/how-far-are-we-from-wireless-electricity-94dbd48529a4




1. Remote Transmission of Solar EnergyAccording to Global Energy Statistics, the world’s total energy consumption in 2019 was 13000 Million Ton Oil Equivalent(MTOE).
This translates to 17.3 Terawatts of power.

Now, if we cover an area of land equal to 350km by 350km with solar panels, it can provide more than 17.4TW of power.
 
               condition : during sufficient radiation and/or sufficient energy/power storage






This area is about 43000 Square miles. The Great Sahara Desert is about a 3.6million square miles of more than 12 hours of solar power per day.




related 43 000 Square miles = 122 500 Square Kilometers    another number offered (output per hour ?)
https://energypost.eu/10000-sq-km-of-solar-in-the-sahara-could-provide-all-the-worlds-energy-needs/



This means 1.2% of the desert is enough to cover the world’s energy needs. And there is no way nuclear fusion or any other cleaner source of energy currently under development can compete with this.




                                                     

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #281 on: May 25, 2021, 08:07:33 PM »
Your best bet is the udt of Raymond Paul Jensen and the flux diode to give Lenz a different path and more room, aka asymmetric flux linking. He gave it away but people apparently don't want to find.And this https://patents.google.com/patent/US6707208B2/en


Raymond Paul Jensen The Unidirectional Transformer f.e. here pdf https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3756.0

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #282 on: May 25, 2021, 08:12:43 PM »
Your best bet is the udt of Raymond Paul Jensen and the flux diode to give Lenz a different path and more room, aka asymmetric flux linking. He gave it away but people apparently don't want to find.And this https://patents.google.com/patent/US6707208B2/en
Isn't Ted Annis's device about that?

p.s.  To Wesley.
В России сейчас многие думают, что их страна "пляшет под дудку" исполняет волю международного валютного фонда,и их главного оплота,США.
Что бы вы могли ответить этим людям ?  ;)

p.s.I’ll add that I don’t think so. :)
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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #283 on: May 25, 2021, 11:14:47 PM »
#276 : "..... the efficiency of transmission can be as high ...."


from power source to emission wave spectrum : efficiency ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Sanguine


Radio waves in the extremely low frequency (ELF) band of 30 to 300 Hz can penetrate to a depth of hundreds of meters, allowing them to communicate with submarines at their normal operating depth.[5]


The lower the frequency, the longer the wavelength of the radio waves, and transmitters require longer antenna structures to generate them.
 ELF transmitters use huge antennas called ground dipoles consisting of tens to hundreds of kilometers of overhead cables resembling ordinary power transmission lines.
The transmission lines are grounded at the ends, and looping currents deep in the Earth form part of the antenna.
 Because even these huge antennas are much smaller than the ELF wavelengths, they are extremely inefficient;
 only a tiny fraction of the input power is radiated as ELF waves, with the rest dissipated as heat in antenna resistance.


At their full input power of 2.6 MW, both US ELF transmitters working together only generated about 8 watts of ELF radiation.


This weak signal was able to reach submarines over half the globe only because of the extremely low attenuation of ELF waves of 1–2 dB per 1000 kilometers.
 ELF transmitters are most efficient when sited over certain low conductivity underground rock formations, which forces the currents to spread deeper through a larger volume of rock, forming a larger "antenna".[2]
 The US system was located in Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan over the Laurentian Shield formation, for that reason.[2]




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_dipole
Antennas at ELF frequencies

Fortunately, the attenuation of ELF waves with distance is so low (1–2 dB per 1000 km)[5] that a few watts of radiated power is enough to communicate worldwide.[2]

 :P  TWh now to see as TinyWatthour :'(  consume ,up to P(itty)Watthour ::)






I hope this here written falls under commentator "personal irony" :


https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/459585/tesla-coil-and-tesla-tower


So, in order to prove Tesla's claims, and operate even a tiny 1-watt flashlight bulb at hundreds/thousands KM distance, we'd need:


17KHz operating frequency (or ideally far lower.)


50MV terminal potential (or ideally far higher.)


Extensive grounding system (like BBC and VOA European megawatt towers.)


100MW power supply (or ideally far more.)method to follow the changing planetary VLF resonance modes

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #284 on: May 26, 2021, 11:29:32 AM »
Wesley, from #281 and #285


122 500 sqkm to 10 000 sqkm need and improvement  this I  call : technological success !




such statements like :


At their full input power of 2.6 MW, both US ELF transmitters working together only generated about 8 watts of ELF radiation.


has nothing to do with "efficiency" : THIS IS A WASTE OF ENERGY SYSTEM ! ( the military sector is not reknown for ecologic behaviour !)

                                                      2 600 000 Watt-in  for 8 Watt-out


                   ( american  8)  business inside ? horrible MBA-/PhD management knowledge disorder)


It should be in Your interest not only to observe the pure "transmission efficiency" but also the power-source-to-emitter efficiency !


Let us hope for the Viziv and other competitors not same bad in the ELF/Zenneck-TM level !




And to use "clean" solar energy as 2,6 MW input power source does not hide the horrible inefficiency !




simple wireless energy transmission ( over all em frequencies spectrum ) we know and use privately since more than 40 years :


IR Fernbedienung/remote control for HiFi/TV     or     70´  walkie-talkie and in kitchen : micro-wave owen








                                           Gimme/Give me  an 8 Watt-in and 2,6 MW-out idea/concept solution,politely: :-*  please  !


                                           From my knowledge-status quo possible : but only as cascading  array !






next technical evolution barrier fallen  ;D :



https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/24/2234708/0/en/US-Nuclear-and-Grapheton-s-New-Supercapacitors-Could-Charge-Your-Next-Electric-Vehicle-in-Seconds.html




wireless energy transmisssion : I reed ,3 decades back,about it : "Wirtschaftswoche"-Magazin


                                              magnetic induction (like today electric cars loading :


                                              wireless) Kir(chen)mes(se = Jahrmarkt) Versorgung/Distribution




let us look for - less distance- tower  improvements, less solar radiation peak dependent  :


17,4 TeraWatt / 500 KW https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm          x 40 sqm =


17 400 000 MW      / 0,5 MW =  34 800 000 units                                                                                                            x 40 sqm =


                                1 392 000 000 sqm = 139 200 ha = 1392  sqKm  area ( on water-pontoon,land ) need by


                                 compared 


                       https://www.indexmundi.com/world/area.html

                     world total:  510.072 million sq km



                              land:     148.94 million sq km


                            water:     361.132 million sq km





                                                power (plants) to the people




                        less than 122 500 sqKm(350 x 350) and 10 000 sqKm ( 100 x 100 )




                        space solar,earth solar,wind,water,magnetic forces : being and staying flexible !






                     We can also divide this 17,4 TW by  world-wide (private) households number
                             
                                 ( future : 2,5 Giga a 4 capita = 10 Billions or 10 Giga habitants)
           
                                                                   ! average !


                 7000 Watt or 7 KW  primary energy as electric energy per household


                                       this is the E.U. programmatic demand : in-situ generation ! in-place !




                                      Let US see it as GLOBAL ENGINEERING PROGRAM ! NO EXIT !






magnetic induction,nice written description and explained -near distance- as vid :


https://phys.libretexts.org/Courses/University_of_California_Davis/UCD%3A_Physics_7C_-_General_Physics/10%3A_Electromagnetism/10.3%3A_Magnetic_Fields/4._Magnetic_Induction


how to transmitt wireless https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfAotrPEkI


transmission by Tesla coil arrangement   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2bZGKNwB4Y
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