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Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
lancaIV:
Chet,
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oeko-energie.de%2Fenergieberatung%2F
Standart household compared SMART,economical household
18 KWh +/- 3 KWh
down to https://mtbest.net/energy-efficiency/ https://mtbest.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2021/03/household_efficiency.pdf
This means that the Lavo system ( or other energetic solutions) can be easily appropriate dimensionized !
Actually : https://lavo.com.au/#specs Usable Capacity 40 kWh Real Power, max continuous 5 kW (charge and discharge)
Instead 40 KWh storage 10 KWh or less !
And with Imris 5 KW rated output amplifier ,C.O.P. 8 apparent power to real power :
34750 AUS$ / 4 ( instead 40 KWh only 10 KWh storage) / 8 ( for C.O.P. 8 ) = linear 1086 AUS$ + 1125 Euros Imris amplifier
1 AUS$ = actually 0,75 US$ 1 US$ = actually 0,85 Euro
or 34750 AUS$/ 8 = linear 4343 AUS$ + 1125 Euros Imris amplifier
about "economy" and " bubble economics" :
https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/11/22325004/new-3d-printed-homes-austin-price-icon-housing
800 sqft for 10 000 US$ or 1000 sqft for 450 000 US$ price
from 3dmachine production view 1000 sqft/800 sqft x 10 000 US$ = 12 500 US$ worth
34 750 AUS$ x 0,75 = 26 062,5 US$ Lavo system price
Paying for an energetic solution more than a new -social law appropriate-house worth ?
Social law : up to 4 capita family : 30,5 sqm basic function area + 9 sqm per capita = 66,5 sqm home area
Base for house/home credit sum maximum avaliation !
800 sqft x 0,093 = 74,4 sqm home area = over 4 capita social law comfort !
The ICON low profit price per sqm does me not surprise :
Contour Crafting 3d tech build house 100 US$/sqmnon-profit canadian block-house style 50 Euros/sqmjovoto 300 US$ house competition
Not to misunderstand :
each one has the right to pay these 450 000 US$ for this new East Austin construction,
cash or by house/ground change
but only
12500 US$ x 0,8 x 0,8 = 8000 US$ are possible as credit participation by institutions ! A constitutional demand !
This is the "estate administration bubble" economy !
stivep:
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--- Quote ---Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
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It is a problem with semantics :
Overunity doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it FE Free energy than that term is describing deice that used energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy after initial cost of the conversion device is free.
Wesley
skywatcher:
--- Quote from: stivep on March 31, 2021, 06:15:18 PM ---quote: It is a problem with semantics :
Overunity doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it FE Free energy than that term is describing deice that used energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy after initial cost of the conversion device is free.
Wesley
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Although solar and wind energy is 'free' it's not really what we are searching for on this forum.
So i would say: 'to convert energy which is available anywhere and anytime free of charge'.
And to answer the question: No, i have never seen a system according to this definition, and i doubt anyone on this forum ever has built one.
partzman:
--- Quote from: stivep on March 31, 2021, 06:15:18 PM ---quote: It is a problem with semantics :
Overunity doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it FE Free energy than that term is describing deice that used energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy after initial cost of the conversion device is free.
Wesley
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Actually, this is what THEY would have us believe! OU is possible without violation of the laws of thermodynamics as we shall see sometime before the remainder of this year is complete.
Of course energy conversion can result in apparent free energy (solar) but true FE is possible!
Regards,
Pm
lancaIV:
Who backed this expression ' overunity' ?
'free energy' is a Physics/Chemistry official and used expression/term !
The problem with free= unbonded energy = short actio/reactio life in time unit
We need a.much mass f.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9BV6nb79fA power/density ratio
b. rare elements(precious) for amorphous alloys
f.e. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel
rare ?
Nickel is required as a metal in small quantities; most of the production goes into the production of stainless steels and nickel alloys . Nickel is used in many specific and recognizable industrial and consumer uses, including steel , Alnico - magnet , coins , rechargeable batteries , e- guitar strings , microphone capsules , claddings on sanitary fittingsand special alloy such as permalloy, Elinvar and Invar . It is used for coatingand as a green tint in glass . The reserves of nickel deposits that can be mined from today's point of view are between 70 and 170 million tons. Currently, more than two million tonnes are extracted worldwide each year (2018: 2.4 million tonnes .
170 000 000 000 Kg / 4 000 000 000 private households ( by 11 Bio. habitants 2100) = 42,5 Kg per household
1950 Kg mass for 170 KW capacity , from this mass pure Nickel-part ?
https://adgex.com/docs/EnergyBRICK_teaser_en.pdf " INFINITE POWER SCALE-UP" ??? INFINITE Nickel SOURCE ? ::)
for great W output per cbm or sqm or Kg or sec : conventional industrial and private consume related !
My elementar orientation : aluminium ,sodium and carbon (as graphit/graphene ) for coils/batteries/generator/motor/transformer
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