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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2021, 02:52:32 PM »
We should be able to attach 2 ring props to drive the blades of an overhead fan, each powered by an inductivly coupled pulsed DC or AC motor, and send power back to the utility company. The 2 to 1 lift advantage of the ring prop should be able to power the AC fan as an alternator and furnish a breeze.

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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2021, 03:15:12 PM »

https://www.plantservices.com/articles/2003/26/


During the research for this column, I ran across several citations directing me to the next Web site, http://home.earthlink.net/~fradella/green.htm. That suggests the site offers something more than one person found worthy of highlighting on their own sites. The grand conceptual work, called Building-Integral On-Site Solar and Wind Power Systems by Richard/Dick Fradella, owner of a company called Regenerative Power and Motion, suggests wind and solar systems can be constructed as integral elements of the building itself, instead of stand-alone add-ons. This approach provides the equipment with a rugged support structure and protection. The article goes on in some level of detail to discuss the required systems and components. It's an interesting read, that's for sure.


https://web.archive.org/web/20060210232921/http://home.earthlink.net/~fradella/green.htm

Probably some interestant and relevant points to find ,


as example,not wind or magnets relevant, but solar :


"  ........ We can do far better. We can double the power from the same PV panels, protect the grid from "live loads" and provide uninterruptible power.  Here is how:   ....."









https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/pioneering-solar-energy


they designed in the End80´a 24/365 solarglider,solar energy absorbing flying power plant


probably you can compare and compete with a 24/365 windglider  ::) ;)







"doubling/four times (or more)" is a universal flow velocity accelerating (reverse decelerating : 1/4 to 1/8 )effect ;


                   


http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=10102672&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en




The theory of flow energy concentration is known from DE magazine Sonnenenergie 2/84, and from DE-PS 33 30 899 an arrangement for concentrating flow energy is known.
[0004]

The flow field around an arbitrarily shaped vortex filament and the electrotechnical field around an arbitrarily curved, wire-shaped conductor are described by the same relationship:


                                                                                          Biot-Savart's law.





If you wind a vortex thread with induction G into a bobbin, there is a concentration of speed over the winding axis.

The additional speed vZ results from the relationship VZ = Γ.n / l, where n is the number of vortices and 1 is the coil length in meters, analogous to electrical engineering. If eddies are generated on aerofoils positioned at an incline in a star shape, edge eddies corresponding to the aerofoil theory arise, which through self-induction form a double fluidized bed coil downstream. In this way, several vortex threads can be wound up to form a multi-thread vortex coil concentrator. For the first time it has been proven that a pressure difference to the static pressure of the atmosphere can be partially converted directly into kinetic energy with technical systems. All processes can be traced in a parallel flow with mass particles flowing in this partial order. Gearless systems can be built to utilize the generated core flow.

                                    donut or torus like



https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=CA&NR=1117868A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820209&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


 Little has been done inthe way of molding, shaping, directing, or increasing the velocity of the fluid upon the rotor arrangement. In theory, the power available ~rom a fluid current is propor~ional to the cube of the fluid current velocity.
If the existing fluid velocity could be doubled, the power output would multiply by a factor of 8.


as mechanical shaft force or transformed by generator as emf


How far/near this trial : https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Air_Motor








p.s.: it was 2005 the question to change "flux amplifier"-effect by magnet/magnetret to electret/captret ! It works also  ;) :)

                                               https://overunity.com/1829/cpg/   Reply #10 on: December 28, 2006, 01:24:08 AM

                            alternatives: with permanent magnets or electro-magnets.

  publicated : 1983-12-09   ( 2007 the algerian inventor was alive,my father phoned to there,2021 not know the state)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19831209&CC=FR&NR=2528257A1&KC=A1

L'esitation de la bobine peut entre faite par une autre source d'alimentation et sera commandée par un relai temporisé electronique, comme il peut y avoir une bobine sur chaque pole de l'aimant, ou que l'aimant inducteur soit remplacée par un électroaimant.



Trés bien ! ::)


Not french-phonic ? Anglo-phonic translation :


Coil esitation(google,I would write : excitation)  can be done by another power source and will be controlled by an electronic time relay, as there may be a coil on each pole of the magnet, or the inductor magnet is replaced by one electro magnet.






This was the inspiring "flash" to combinate with Dr.Pavel Imris "capacitive winding"-technique 2007/2008 !

Or : as his publicated " electric generator" -version ( now -2021-  in several kinds available )


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=pavel+imris&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search






Future design :
 


https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13727 and a more efficient electric motor ,assuming -50% less consume compared conventional :


Net Zero energy room cooling,Net Zero energy refrigerator(3. rd world medical storage,food storage  )


To get the net zero :


recuperative part coil coating (David Yurth) or


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4


Conservation of electrical energy and electro-magnetic power in motor, generator, and product components
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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2021, 09:12:51 PM »
This is what I'm talking about :

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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2021, 09:34:02 PM »
Closer look at the Fock Wulf wing: This jet wing could pass for an overhead fan.

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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2021, 10:53:40 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2021, 11:35:42 PM »
This resembles my old garden sprinkler.

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« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2021, 11:43:40 PM »
We can exhaust the blade fans over the cycloidal wing to power the ring rotation.

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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2021, 11:50:25 PM »
This resembles my old garden sprinkler.


with this given example values (from the above application )


However, this throughput rate should in no case exceed the volume.

Otherwise, the speed can be in the order of 3000 rpm.

This then results in peripheral speeds of the order of magnitude between 150 and 160 m / sec


the garden sprinkler work would have really a "Rasen sprengen"( 1:1 translation :  to blow up the lawn ) effect


" Rasen sprengen"  means " to water the lawn"


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We can exhaust the blade fans over the cycloidal wing to power the ring rotation.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/wind-tunnels

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« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2021, 12:36:25 AM »
We could Triebflügel all the windmills and generate power when the weather is nice. One successful bench test of the 2 to 1 lift ratio of the prop ring would spawn a large after market add on sector within the windmill industry.

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« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2021, 01:43:26 PM »
A concept (ucrainian inventor) for existent water-/wind-/solar systems output (peak/average)improvement , to think about ,dis-/advantages :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukXtWSLnh8&t=64s     the motor-generator couple then beginning minute 3:50 as wind rotor-couple


on-grid or off-grid






                 on-grid                               electricity trade (im-/ex-port)

                                                         example : Australia

https://www.economicregulator.tas.gov.au/electricity-site/SiteAssets/electricity/pricing/feed-in-tariffs/Feed-in%20tariff%20picture.png




for such "self consumption" households systems like here

https://www.iberdrola.com/wcorp/gc/prod/en_US/comunicacion/autoconsumo_electrico_2_res/InstalacionAutoconsumo_EN.jpg


( from this commercial e-provider  https://www.iberdrola.com/innovation/self-consumption )




infeed the grid/net with own generated electricity,chances/riscs( local transformer destruction/ fire /total net-grid break-down )
costs(not low cost equipment,for net-grid infeeding approved minimum quality ),gains (national/local feed-in-tariffs) :

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&q=grid+electricity+in+feeding&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwje47Dppq3vAhWEQEEAHdRQAsMQBSgAegQIAhA0&biw=1366&bih=636


synchro1, "We could ...." to differ "We can ...." and "Us is allowed to ..... "


from physical,technical and commercial restrictions/legal limits knowledge and view-point


Beginning our thinking : 1 blade,2 blade, ...  rotor


                                     mechanical output : pump,mill,friction device


                                     or with single/modular e-generator-couple


youtube : 30 US$ wind-turbine only mechanical output  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9TrUPoevXI

This is the up to date build process for the OpenSourceLowTech.org $30 Lenz2 vertical axis wind turbine. The turbine can be made almost entirely from recycled materials with basic tools in six hours for $20-35. It is tested at [/font][/size]35-40% mechanically efficient, generates 130 watts mechanical in a 30 km/h wind, 1 kilowatt at 60 km/h, and can survive 100 km/h gusts.


Good/bad ? a.
Betz-limit : 59% conversion efficiency maximum



30 Km/h = 8.33 mtrs/sec. wind stream =  Beaufort scale 5 ,breeze

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://rechneronline.de/windkraft/


But compared mechanical to electrical power output,wind velocity related :



http://www.arestov.de/index.php/de/elektromotoren/windenergie




Example: A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer information) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts.


After converting the generator to combined windings, the system was already delivering at a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts. At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts!

conventional     :        20 m/sec.         70 Watts      btw : 20 m/sec Beaufort 8/9 stormy wind/near storm velocity
double winding :   10-12 m/sec.        320  Watts

halve the wind velocity,more than 4 times the output


Comparing rotative movements from wind rotor with wheel revolutions from electric vehicles we see a great potential of brake energy recuperation gains !










                       + motor to generator/alternator converted or ready to use generator/alternator


         
conversion example ,1978 publication = 2021 restriction-free use = open source



https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780915&CC=FR&NR=2381408A1&KC=A1

The system (1) is designed to convert an asynchronous electric motor into an alternator of equivalent power or with characteristics superior to those to which the motor was designed.

 The motor is rotated by mechanical drive system and by the addition of two capacitors it is converted into a two phase alternator.


All motors whether single, three or multiphase can be converted so as to produce two phase current.

All : also synchronous ?


which has to become tested,this " fine" claim 8)   


 asynchronous motors also called induction motors  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_motor






2021 market net-price for wind electricity :


production costs in $cents/KWh       less               $0.015/kWh tax credit for windconverter


                                                                         https://programs.dsireusa.org/system/program/detail/734




example                $ 0,03/ KWh          -               $0,015/KWh  tax credit =   $0,015/KWh


                            $ 0,02/ KWh          -               $0,015/KWh  tax credit =   $0,005/KWh


                            $ 0,01/ KWh          -               $0,015/KWh  tax credit = - $0,005/KWh




https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/tag/wind%20turbine


For example, an offshore wind farm of grid-type wind gearless turbines offered and dislocated along Mediterranean coast of Israel of 170 km width can produce at least
 1.3 * 0.5 * (8 ^ 3) * 0.45 * 0.75 * 35 * 170,000 * 0.01 * 8600 = 57.5 milliard kWh electricity annualy by 0.1 US cent per kWh if 5 years payback.


I mean Mr.Judbarovski calculated wrong : instead 0,1 US cent = 1/10 cent  per KWh, right calculated : 1 US$cent per KWh


  calculating with his given 250 US$/KW windturbine price estimation ! And 5 years R.O.I. !

    Super-cheap Powerfull Wind Turbine Electricity, #2
while my turbine assembly provides 2000 kW, being about US$ 500,000.00 only, while the said Vestas is an order of magnitude expensive.

250 US$ /8766 hours(=permanent year)/5years(=R.O.I./pay back) = circa 0,57 cent/KWh : 100% full capacity/load condition


                                                                                                     + installation/over-head costs/maintenance

100% theoretical full load compared


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshore-Windpark%23:~:text%3DOffshore%252DStandorte%2520zeichnen%2520sich%2520%25C3%25BCblicherweise,3500%2520bis%25205000%2520Volllaststunden%2520erzielen.


Offshore wind farms ( OWF ) are wind farms that are set up in the coastal area.


View of the offshore wind farm Riffgat northwest of the island of Borkum (the transformer platform on the left ) in light fogThe term “offshore wind farms”, which is occasionally used in German for offshore wind farms, is wrong, however, as these have so far not been built on the “ high seas ”, but exclusively on the continental shelf . Offshore locations are usually characterized by relatively continuous wind conditions and high average wind speeds, which is why the wind turbines installed in them usually achieve a high utilization of 3500 to 5000 full load hours .

0,57 $cent/KWh /(5000 h practical load max /8766h theoretical full load )= 1,0 US$cent/KWh




US wind condition ,south coast ? $0,01/KWh-$0,015/KWh production costs  before tax credit ?




Sincere


OCWL






p.s.: fluid calculation complexity demonstrated 


a. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://rechneronline.de/windkraft/   relatively easy


b. https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2014167269A1/en
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« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2021, 01:38:53 AM »
This 2 meter spiral Magus windmill generates 3.8 times the lift as the original propeller :

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« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2021, 02:03:19 AM »
The conclusion is that the spiraling ring quadruples the lift of the propeller alone!  A spiral magnus wingon the coweling of this 3d printed electric jet would be interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQLhwI4t6JA

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« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2021, 10:59:12 AM »
Good morning,synchro1 !
Heinrich Gustav Magnus (effect)

Anton Flettner

Henri Coanda (effect)
Open

Enclosed,as chamber :

Ranque-Hilsch
Windhex

So,reinventing the ancient-classical plane propeller starter principle :
thrust generating by capsules ,by your idea instead capsules with e- jets

Perpetual "Tornado (black/white whole) in a box"

An artificial  atmospherical wet/dry,hot/cold,fast/slow  state game  like  the seasonal "tornado alley" happening

Un-/Wetter and weather : an Un-Weather generator box

www.aenertec.com talon_rms.htm    : " Put the Power of the Tornado to Work for You " !?

Reversible heat pump + wind generator(inside)  = atmospheric generator (Carnot/Biot-Savart engine)

Turbulent to laminar = compression and laminar to turbulent = expansion

Pulsative(wave-like) process



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p.s.:


we have exposed #33/37 the Hilden-Brand and Flynn experiment results, mmf related or in mmf-emf conjunction !


In Volt/Ampere the F=BIL and counter-F relationship ?


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1


http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en



[0015]

If, in a conventional generator, the field strength B, the length of its conductor is denoted by L and the current flowing through it is denoted by I, the magnitude of the opposing force F exerted on the conductor and thus on the shaft is F = BLI.
[0016]

If the field strength of the electrical device 2B is the length of its conductor L and only a current flows through it whose strength corresponds to half the current flowing in the generator, the force exerted on the armature is F '= 2B x L x 1 = LI.



[0017]


2



This shows that the force exerted on the armature of the electrical device and thus on the driving shaft is equal to the counterforce exerted on the shaft by the conventional generator.

The force is generated to act in such a direction that it compensates for the opposing force.




[0018]


Half of the generator voltage is required to allow half the current to flow through the electrical device.

Thus 1/4 of the generated power is lost to counteract the decelerating force.

The remaining 3/4 of the generated energy or a little less of it is available for external consumption.



                                                                  THE F=BIL STATEMENT :


      F with B           to        F with   1/2 B   is not a 1/2(VA)  but (1/2V x 1/2A ) = 1/4 VA


                                                   1/5 B           not   1/5(VA)   but                            1/25 VA


                                                 1/10 B           not   1/10(VA) but                          1/100 VA



                  Comparing Flynn´s mmf magnifying/diminuation and Richard Fradella generator rated RPM/Watt ratio changes







[0019]


If the field strength of the electrical device is a multiple of the field strength of the generator, for example 5 times, it is necessary that 1/5 of the generated current flows in the electrical device in order to generate the compensating force. 1/5 of the generated voltage is required for the current to flow.

Thus 1/25 or 4% of the generated energy is used in the electrical installation, while 96% or a little less of it is available for external consumption.

In this way it is not necessary that any electrical energy from an external source is introduced into the generator according to the invention for generating electrical energy.

A slightly stronger current flow provides the required torque on the shaft.

Therefore, the shaft and thus the armature are moved further and electrical energy is generated.


 


                                           Force and counter-force : field strength B ratio,gouverns V/A relationship




Magnet array (forced effect)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1


by the same inventor applied as windmill generator


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20111006&CC=US&NR=2011241349A1&KC=A1


and coil saving technique
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1

This invention allows for the reduction in size of a high power transformers by a factor of 4 to 8 and a reduction in weight by a factor of 4 to 6, and an increase in power density by 5 to 10 in power. The efficiency of the transformer is improved by maximizing the heat transfer from the transformers interior and minimizing voltage breakdown. The thermal properties of each core 12 will dictate the quantity of the thermally conductive strip 16 material required to lower the transformer temperature to a predetermined level, some testing may be required to established the optimal amount needed to provide proper cooling.


and motor or generator size/weight ? 8)

These and other objectives are obtained by placing thermal conductive strips between the turn layers along the axis and perpendicular to the turns of an high power electrical device, such as a transformer or motor, which extends outside of the windings or between the laminates of the core. The excess heat is conducted outward from the interior of the device along the strips to the outside of the device's windings where it is extracted from the protrusions by means of a highly thermal-conductive potting compound that has a short thermal path to a small heat sink.



in future lower costs production


not rare magnets material : Iron nitride
https://nironmagnetics.com/






But  ::)  : for demanded flexible load (device electrical) output we see now that there is a controle system in need ,
               
               flexible V/A force/counterforce operator


An EPROM with FUZZY LOGIC-App inside for such an (il :o -)logical (seeming 8) ) complex/ity like here : https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2014167269A1/en


quantum mechanics work controle ,Nature is a littl´ KOMPLEXITIV,RELATIVISTISCHE KINEMATIK (Uni theme)


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.abiweb.de/physik-relativitaetstheorie/relativistische-kinematik.html


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://itp.tugraz.at/LV/schnizer/Analytische_Mechanik/node11.html




 awarded wind force conversion method :


https://www.jugend-forscht.de/stiftung-jugend-forscht-e-v/historie/geschichten/europas-jugend-forscht-fuer-die-umwelt-yeer.html
1995Ákos Honti, Szilárd Pataki, Ungarn
Ein neuer Typ von Windmaschine

similar construction : https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=2261


https://brisam9.blogspot.com/2013/12/us-patentwindmill-1000-time-more.html


 :o  https://programs.dsireusa.org/system/program/detail/734      -tax credit per KWh  ?



A wind farm made from this blinking sail windmill which cost $100 million it will generate electricity more than a wind farm
cost $10 billion made from present windmills.


smaller wind farms ratio :

10    million    instead     1 billion   investment


 1    million     instead 100 million  investment


100 thousand  instead 10 million   investment




With which electric generator costs per KW he calculates  ?


we can read here

https://brisam9.blogspot.com/2013/12/us-patentwindmill-1000-time-more.html

As we see the crane price can be as low as  $22,000 where the four frames will cost less than $15,000
So with less than $40,000 we will have a 1MW windmill, if we add the generator price and the foundation cost the entire blinking sail windmill cost will be less than $175,000. With such price the blinking sail windmill will land slide the world of wind power generation.

$175,000 total costs- $40,000 windmill  = $135,000 (less foundation costs) for a 1 MW electric generator !?

$175,000 / 1 MW =          $175/KW

1$cent/KWh electricity generation range [ less (political/ecological) tax credit = Zero costs]


investment high per KW  comparison


https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/tag/wind%20turbine
 I estimate a cost of a construction of the wind turbine for the case of 3,000 kW to be much less then a hundred US dollars per kW, including a cost of a tower.




land lease/rent/buy costs per KWh ?

When f.e. in Germany from 25€cent electricity price only 8 Eurocent are power plant related,a diminuation from the generation price would only have a price decrease effect from 25 to 25(-7 or 8) = 17/18 €cents per KWh consume for net-grid endconsumer

Alternatively,off-grid or hybrid net-on/off :

A portable 3000 RPM Mukherjee generator,2021 construction standarts,1 KW steady DC output : 500 US$/KW
Electricity generation costs by 24/365 production : 1 $cent/KWh (less incentives/tax credit ?)

+Battery/capacitor-set for Wattpeak ≥ rated KW demand and/or storage


Home power plant electricity generation - off grid - in the 5 €cent/KWh average (~ US b2b e-price)

1 KW x 8766 h = 8766 KWh per year is much
But
1 KW as "kitchen power demand + inrush current peak" is low ,up to 15 KW peak demand not unusual

A water heater 1500 W,but only 1/15 per heat process = 100 Wh
A toaster,coffee machine,microwave owen ,electric owen plates with 1500/3000 W rated consume ,hair dryer ,.....
Clothes dryer with motor : rated 1500 W motor ? IC phase/inertia 7500 Wp demand
Washing machine ,rated motor .....
And better : not in seriell use put all in the same "time demand" : 5000+ Wp accumulation x inrush phase



+ Electric room heating/cooling !?


Thinking BIG and THINKING SMALL
« Last Edit: March 14, 2021, 03:53:32 PM by lancaIV »

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