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Author Topic: Temporary placeholder Allcandian topic Victor Schaubergers devices  (Read 1897 times)

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Note Topic is temporary until Stefan can be reached ( hopefully very soon , also I did move
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I have been revisiting Viktor Schaubergers work which isn't that complicated...
We take water(H and O) and air(CO2, N and O) then split the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen with a HV plasma under a vacuum. The Hydrogen/plasma is very reactive and Viktor used a copper/silver catalyst to bond the Hydrogen to the Carbon of the CO2. The result was a hydrocarbon (CH) and Oxygen which has a smaller volume producing a higher vacuum able to perform work.

You should recognize this process because every plant does the same thing as photosynthesis. It takes in CO2, H2O and energy, then reforms it to produce a higher density Hydrocarbon and Oxygen. What most do not see, as Viktor pointed out, this produces an implosion not an explosion. Burning CH and O produces heat and expansion. While reforming CO2 and H into CH and O produces a vacuum and contraction.

Now imagine what large machines which utilize this natural process could do. They would take in vast quantities of atmospheric CO2, reform it to CH and O as well as producing large amounts of power. This power could be used to generate electricity while scrubbing the atmosphere of excess CO2... problem solved.

Gentlemen, pretending our problems don't exist is not the way forward and you may want to take a look at Viktor Schauberger's work.
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Re: Temporary placeholder Allcandian topic Victor Schaubergers devices
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2021, 10:18:17 PM »
While things get sorted here
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on natures motion...Viktor Schauberger often referred to "natures motion" and many might think he was talking about vortex motion. However Viktor always spoke conceptually which many find difficult to understand, it was the concept he wanted to convey. In Viktor's world there were two primary motions which dictate all motion...
 1)Expansion/radiation/degeneration/death
2)Contraction/concentration/generation/growth  Viktor recognized that society was consumed with the concept of expansion, degeneration and burning stuff. What nature builds we tear apart for energy and other needs however the notion of generation and growth is foreign to us. Viktor often used the tree as an example of how a single seed planted in the ground could concentrate energy to grow into a 200 foot tree weighing thousands of pounds. In this respect the concept of growth is foreign to us and most cannot understand how we could concentrate energy in that way. Viktor often expanded on the fact of how were doing everything wrong however I would like to concentrate on what we can do right.
 We were taught all about Entropy, the concept of how energy radiates but we we never taught the alter ego of how it concentrates. We could ask... if energy always radiates out from a point then how did the energy get to that point in the first place in order to be able to radiate?. What mechanism concentrated the energy to a point before it was radiated?. It would seem were missing one half of the equation in my opinion. The fact remains that for something to expand it must have contracted at some point prior to the expansion and understanding contraction, generation and growth is our goal.   We could ask... how does something concentrate energy or mass?. What mechanisms are involved, what forces?. In every respect it's about balance, for something to expand it must first have contracted in order to expand. Viktor's analogy of a tree is a good example and the roots form a cone concentrating to the trunk and also forms a cone upwards expanding from the trunk. It can move hundreds of gallons of water a day, concentrated or absorbed from below and expanding or evaporating above. That which is below is like that which is above, moving a medium in the same direction. It was this natural process relating to the concentration/expansion of a medium which Viktor based his technology on. In order to really understand Viktor's concepts I found it helpful to retrain my mind and way of thinking. When I looked at everything I looked for contraction, concentration, generation and growth. I excluded what we normally perceive and concentrated only on these concepts. As it turns out it's a much easier to find something were looking for than not. Sometimes it's that easy...
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Re: Temporary placeholder Allcandian topic Victor Schaubergers devices
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2021, 09:32:01 AM »

Hello
but if you look at the vortices, the energy in the middle is also concentrated there. I have built various devices for water revitalization and cleaning. They're just under construction. But effective. Bacteria are eliminated and oxygen is introduced, or Co2. If you like. At the moment I am building a mold to burn the part in clay.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2021, 01:24:55 PM »
WoW interesting

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2021, 02:48:37 AM »
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Topic still under construction
I hope to reach Stefan this weekend


About moving to new spot with admin setup for topic host

Repost from here. https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4068.msg87683;topicseen#msg87683


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With respect to Viktor Schauberger's work, and after reading all the books this may be the most insightful literature I have found to date.

https://bluestarenterprise.com/articles/viktor-schauberger/vitor-schauberger-implosion-the-path-of-natural-energy/vitor-schauberger-implosion-the-path-of-natural-energy.pdf

Part I, IMPLOSION VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER and the PATH of NATURAL ENERGY Compiled by Riley Hansard Crabb

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Re: Temporary placeholder Allcandian topic Victor Schaubergers devices
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2021, 05:55:43 AM »
Hello guys.
Thank you for the book @Ramset.
I will add it to my collection and read it when I have time.

There are people that say , that Victor found a way to extract energy.....towards 1 million volts from 1 drop of water.
So he was not just a man who transported trees on a river..as many people say he was.
He was a researcher.
Stay safe and take care  !
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2021, 12:57:13 AM »
Seems to be taking a while to hear back from Stefan
Here a comment which is quite interesting


Snip” would produce a cold expansion 2000 times the original ”

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4068.msg87795;topicseen#msg87795


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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2021, 05:23:18 PM »

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On the nature of Energy..


I can ask many people questions about any number of things but when I ask them "what is energy" nobody seems to have a rational answer. What is a magnetic or an electric field?, what is the gravic field?, what is inertia...nobody has any answers?. We presume to know or understand so many things and yet everyone I ask has no answers to anything that really matters. Why is this?...why is it nobody seems to have any answers?.
 Apparently all is known, by some greater force or entity, however that does not change the fact that when I ask a question nobody seems to have an answer. I want to know the answer, I want it, and if the supposed answer only leads to more questions then it's not a real answer. As well if the answer cannot be justified or proven then it's not an answer, it's just more bs under the guise of an answer.      ..When I ask a question I demand a reasonable answer which can be proven or justified and anything less is just bullshit...This is the reality Viktor Schauberger and most other inventors have to deal with. Simply believing anything is never enough and if we cannot drag what we believe into reality then it means nothing. Which begs the question, how do we make what seems impossible... possible.
  Viktor touched on the problem and he was very critical of science even though he practiced science. Viktor proclaimed science was a prostitution of the facts even as he practiced science. A methodology whereby we form a theory based on natural phenomena then prove the theory with experiments which is exactly what Viktor did. In effect Viktor answered his own question by his actions and despite his claims he was a scientists in every sense of the word.
  The lesson here is that we can believe anything we want however reality remains and it is what it is despite our beliefs. Whatever answer we find must be a real answer justified with a reasonable explanation and proof. Anything less is just wishful thinking or imaginary however the kicker is we do not know what others could imagine...
  Others could imagine anything and what we think impossible could be normal for someone else. What is normal?, for me the conversion of what Viktor called UR or natures energy is normal and burning stuff seems barbaric. I mean really, burning shit to produce heat is the best we can do?. So as primitive man continues  to burn stuff another man is converting radiant energy from a star with solar panels to produce energy. We can do better and we will...
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