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aleks

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Acoustical feedback energy system
« on: December 10, 2020, 05:00:51 PM »
This is a diagram of my 2011 experiment (circles here represent sound waves). It's very simple, you need 40 dollars for materials. The speakers presented here are usual cheap computer speakers; you can connect the speakers to the sound card of your computer: there will still be no feedback on them. The feedback will go to the tee; nuances in the sound amplifying cascades are possible - the speaker may also burn out. Note that loudspeakers are both emitters and absorbers of acoustic energy; it is an acoustic feedback system. Why 108 cm between the centers of the speakers - I don't know, I just wanted it to be so; in Buddhism the number 108 is sacred. I’m not seeing much sense myself in making a full-scale model again: hearing the clap of a fuse is not very interesting, and I am not capable of anything more in electrical engineering, alas. The frequency of the sinusoid must be carefully selected: at some frequency a “miracle” of electric energy feedback will happen.


Note that this is prior-art, published also here: https://vixra.org/abs/2012.0066
It cannot be patented.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2020, 05:05:07 PM »
One thing worth exploring about this system is. While signal-amplifying cascades of speakers try to move the speaker cones to produce sound waves, they are opposed by sound waves coming from opposite speakers. This creates an electrically unresolvable tension, a singularity I would say.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2020, 12:26:38 AM »
It will depend on phasing. Depending on the diameter of the circle and the frequency, they could cancel, partial cancel, reinforce or rip the cones to shreds.

If you want to use the voice coils as generators, you will need some fancy switching.

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2020, 04:34:30 AM »
It will depend on phasing. Depending on the diameter of the circle and the frequency, they could cancel, partial cancel, reinforce or rip the cones to shreds.

If you want to use the voice coils as generators, you will need some fancy switching.
In my experiment it wasn't too problematic for 10W-rated speakers. Only the fuze rated 15A on an electric tee blew. Which is of course totally unexpected. I do not think speakers started to draw 3KW, they would burn to ashes.

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Re: Acoustical feedback energy system
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2020, 12:54:48 PM »

Only the fuze rated 15A on an electric tee blew.

This could be an inductive spike. it could be quite significant.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2020, 01:41:05 PM »
This could be an inductive spike. it could be quite significant.
Not sure about "spike". Fuzes usually do not react on spikes, they need time to fire-up. It was some serious build-up of voltage, and backsurge, as I was connected to a municipal powergrid.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2020, 02:09:50 PM »
Not sure about "spike". Fuzes usually do not react on spikes, they need time to fire-up. It was some serious build-up of voltage, and backsurge, as I was connected to a municipal powergrid.

Analog multi-meter + digital multi-meter,limit physical ?
Dirac surge, inrush Voltage,inrush Amperage,inrush Pulsation !?

Dirac Sea,Moray Sea,TV-'snow' to Tele-Audio-Vision,TAV 'snow',RANDOM process ( Farnsworth !?)

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Re: Acoustical feedback energy system
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2020, 03:50:02 PM »
Analog multi-meter + digital multi-meter,limit physical ?
Dirac surge, inrush Voltage,inrush Amperage,inrush Pulsation !?

Dirac Sea,Moray Sea,TV-'snow' to Tele-Audio-Vision,TAV 'snow',RANDOM process ( Farnsworth !?)

Device in cool-able ambient,up ultra ?


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Well, I'm not an expert in such keywords, and in electric engineering in general; I understand how electricity works, but designing a complex system is out of my interest. All I can say is that speakers were not damaged. So, whatever surge there was, it did not damage a rather basic signal-amplifying circuitry of cheap analog loudspeakers. What is important is that all loudspeakers amplify the same sinewave signal source, without any phase delay. The frequency I believe depends on distances, room modes, and ambient temperature which was I guess 25C. The cheap small high-frequency speaker cones are usually directional, so distance from the flooring is not so much an important factor - in my experiment the speaker cones were about 15cm off the floor.

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2020, 04:20:53 PM »
When I visited between 2005-2010 in average 3x per week the Campo&Cardoso electric repair office in O'Porto/PT,ancient a transformer production entity,there I met an engineer,whose branch was/is? loudspeaker - high end- construction !
He told me about mono-/stereo hear differences from us male humens !
Your description reminds me the reclam in the End-80' about the new sound system : dolby surround ,and as video-audio example about virtual-synthetical aesthetiks a concert hall stage,with curtains down and behind - instead an orchestra- a DCD ( later DVD) play recorder,the sound to the audience,included ECHO Hall,like ' in real' ,and no " play back",as so often !

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p.s.: aether22 tread " extreme disinterest .....," #1 given links comparing with here #1 image ,german : GEDANKENECHO !  French ! : Deja-vu ,Deja-ouvie  !

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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2020, 04:30:44 PM »
Your description reminds me the reclam in the End-80' about the new dound system : dolby surround ,and as video-audio example about virtual-synthetical aesthetiks a concert hall stage,with curtains down and behind - instead an orchestra- a DCD ( later DVD) play recorder,the sound to the audience,included ECHO Hall,like ' in real' ,and no " play back",as so often !
You are right, this does look like home-theater surround-sound system. But there are, of course, uncomparable differences, and unexpected operation modes. There's a vast world to explore in opposite-speaker designs. Overunity FTW.

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Re: Acoustical feedback energy system
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2020, 08:36:29 AM »
It will depend on phasing. Depending on the diameter of the circle and the frequency, they could cancel, partial cancel, reinforce or rip the cones to shreds.
Ah, forgot to reply to this comment. The "sinewave frequency" I'm speaking about does exactly that, affects the balance between speaker cone movement and opposition: the correct frequency puts the system into a paradoxical state at which all 6 speaker cones are opposed by soundwaves from the opposite loudspeakers. If this system is completely symmetric (a hexagon), it requires only a single sinewave signal source of correct frequency to put it into this state.


As I have not got beyond a blown fuse, I'm unable to give estimations how this system evolves over time. It's very possible it produces an oscillation naturally (moments of paradox followed by moments of relaxation).

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2020, 09:22:15 AM »
acoustical sound feedback energy :
"hearing" a. Kraftwerk sound in that ART&KIND and EURYTHMICS "1984" and The Human League "Being Boiled"
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=eurythmics+1984+

Why is the Colosseum/Arena round,sur-rounding wave !? Soccer :home team 12th player , to 10th and less the opposite team diminuaiser
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw     impressive influencing the other  :o !
                                                                                         by compressed force expression  8) (or only 1%,not all)
                    WE   R   the CAT,you only the MOUSE !                          (Attention : inverse Tom&Jerry  ::) )


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Re: Acoustical feedback energy system
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2020, 11:37:28 AM »
Ah, forgot to reply to this comment. The "sinewave frequency" I'm speaking about does exactly that, affects the balance between speaker cone movement and opposition: the correct frequency puts the system into a paradoxical state at which all 6 speaker cones are opposed by soundwaves from the opposite loudspeakers. If this system is completely symmetric (a hexagon), it requires only a single sinewave signal source of correct frequency to put it into this state.


As I have not got beyond a blown fuse, I'm unable to give estimations how this system evolves over time. It's very possible it produces an oscillation naturally (moments of paradox followed by moments of relaxation).

This is worth a look: https://youtu.be/rdLMtEZqGdE

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Re: Acoustical feedback energy system
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2020, 12:57:58 PM »
This is worth a look: https://youtu.be/rdLMtEZqGdE
I think I always believed TPU and overunity devices were connected with air, or in-material super-sonic waves. Air/matter transmits energy via physical means, which I would say is "orthogonal" to electricity. It allows to get that electrical "squeeze" which frees a pathway to the energy from space/aether/whatever. The acoustical system presented here, if it works the way I think, is one of the most efficient and scalable ways to get that "squeeze".

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Re: Acoustical feedback energy system
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2020, 01:21:52 PM »
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