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Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« on: December 06, 2020, 10:55:18 AM »
I made a post about the Aether, actually I made two, oddly two others followed from others, but the lack of interest is deafening.


I have posted about this on Reddit and even though I have had a hard time finding the level of active experimental interest i'd like to find, there have been a plenty of people who have tried to feel the energy and comment.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/k1x0ki/poll_v2_can_you_feel_these/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/jk2psw/can_you_feel_this_best_images_constantly_updated/


There has been some real interest, 186 members have joined the group and 34 and 42 people have answered those two polls.
That is a fair few.
So far ZERO people have reported trying the images I posted here!


There is a real disconnect going on here, while I a frustrated about a very low level of reproduction going on there, here there is about what, one dismissive reply and that's it.


Galileo couldn't get anyone to look through his telescope, I know how he feels.


Come on guys, give it a shot, some won't feel a thing, but some will, and some will feel lots.


Try the above links, also:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/k7p24c/the_final_public_advance_for_now/   <Bottom image


Why wouldn't you try?
I have told you that people feel the energy even when the device is hidden and they are ignorant of it (no expectation, not Placebo).
I have told you that some feel an extreme level of intensity.
I have told you that amazing result  have happened.
That it is correlated with many claims of Free Energy and antigravity.


You either have to conclude I am lying... (why?)
Quite insane (but would that explain others experiences?).
Or that maybe I am on to something.


And if I am on to something that has come from researching and Free Energy and Antigravity for 26 years, maybe it is actually not totally in error, maybe it is connected, maybe it is relevant.
Maybe it is worth the minute of your life it would take to see if you can feel it!

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2020, 11:31:32 AM »

Hi Aether!
People don't want to be sent on an Easter Egg hunt when so many similar exhortations turn out to be wild goose chases.
What would be useful if you, as an expert, were to summarise in 100 words or less what the aether is and why it matters to free energy reserarch - with an example for how it is relevant to us.

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2020, 12:04:01 PM »
No wild goose chases I promise, okay, 100 words, here goes.



I began studying many of the better proven Free Energy and Antigravity claims looking for a correlation, I found only one distasteful correlation, that of an aether vortex.  So did many other, but I carried on researching and experimenting until 17 years I finally made an unusual coil that issued a definite tangible phenomena from it's tip, the sensation became obvious the longer my hand was exposed to it, this made it easy to explore this phenomena.


Many Free Energy devices manifest not just one but many gravitational, material, thermal and magnetic anomalies they act as though a bubble has been setup in space that makes physics act wonky.


Okay, that's 110, but if I might say a bit more, when you look at the designs of Free Energy device claims in light of an aether theory, in light of the techniques I have developed, suddenly the designs make a lot of sense!   There are lots of hints about these devices that suggest that something is happening in space, the materials are becoming conditioned.


But that realization is almost useless unless you have two additional things, a rule book that tells to how to Engauge the aether, and a way to know what is going on, now meters are nice, but science almost never begins with a meter for a new phenomena, initially you have to experience the phenomena yourself in order to investigate it, otherwise it wouldn't be expected to exist.  Luckily as I explain MOST people can feel this phenomena!


So what I am delivering is "THE ANSWER" the the hidden secret key to Free Energy and much more.
How to feel it. (gain a super power)
How to affect it (powerful techniques, correlations).
And finally, a simple way to know with a minute or 5 of testing if this is real (for you)!


Even if you aren't patient enough to try even one minute, for the love of God, could you not try for 20 second?


So that is my pitch, just TRY IT!  I accept some won't be able to feel it, but at least some notable portion (generally a majority) should.


I can't tell you once you use this that Free Energy will fall into your lap, but I can tell you you won't be working blind and ignorant anymore of the primary function behind this work!




Why do you think success is so fleeting and hard to replicate?!  it is because these technologies aren't electromagnetic, they are Aethero-electromagnetic, they are hybrids of a force most ignore entirely!


How can it be a wild goose chase if it takes just one minute to feel something extraordinary or not?


Once the phenomena can be vouched for, I will happily explain what I understand of the mechanisms of aetheric energy in Free Energy devices with correlations and evidence and explanations.
I don't have a specific design, these principles can be implemented in any design you might work on anyway!

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2020, 01:54:57 PM »
For me, the nub of your useful piece was:
        "I finally made an unusual coil that issued a definite tangible phenomena from it's tip, the sensation became obvious the longer my hand was exposed to it, this made it easy to explore this phenomena".

You say you don't have a specific design but you must have one that would allow us to reproduce your effect.

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2020, 05:20:32 PM »
Yep. I stuck my hand in the field of the GK4 and it burned the right hand thumb nerve and both optic nerves. I am not blind but the thumb still has problems.
Most these devices we see here are simple open faced microwave generators.Putting a meter or scope on it entails sticking a metal rod in the field.Connecting a meter or scope on it entails shorting it through your measuring device.Search for safe testing techniques on Tesla coils for a start.After that you will have a better handle if you have something or not.As far as eliminating charlatans, always look for a mess, cables going off in the distance, dirt floor testing beds, and the proverbial battery in the light bulb trick.We know what countries these tricks come from.
Take a microwave oven outside and rigged the door open. Place an incandescent light bulb near the opening. Turn on the oven. The light will turn on.Lets flush out the laughing idiots now. The test is no different than placing a light bulb in the field of a Tesla coil.

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2020, 05:42:36 PM »
#Today 10:55 a.!m
Hmm,interestant view and judgement/statement !?

Reading 'Galileo (Galilei)',NO!,aether22,
the "VFather from the Modern Science",
translated the wikipedia,Deutsch Galileo Galilei" -description denomination,

was not alone -against "all/many' odds/others ,from his 'brotherhood' community : the romano-catholic church Nomenclatura !

Beside him,hirarchy ranking ?, today used as shortly " torr" : Evangelista Torricelli
 
         MENTOR of G.G.

There is often opposition to 'Dogma/-s" ,loud-aggressive or silent-rational ,and new discoveries result/s integration and use !

IHS-Universities R&D : for example the first auto-mobile,demonstrated by an original NL-Jesuit in the 16.century, Formosa/today Taiwan or Japan/Nippon, sended by portuguese IHS-Motherhouse, there to work and missionaer !

FE-machine/s there to find ? Mr.(Title ?)Biot or Mr.(Title ?)Savart and the help for the development from a permanent water-motor ?!


Laplace : Title ?
Ampere : Title ?
Academie Royale ! Duque de ..../ Duke of ..... also Marquis/Mark-Graf/Margrave called :

 Eminenzen,royal family members,privy council

  +- time era Absolutism : Regents-Cardeals Richelieu and Mazzarin(o ,original the second : Abruzzen,Church-estate ~ today ITALIA; Garibaldi/Verdi worked,sakularized later !)


    'des-interest' : some showes it ,others less !


"MyHome"-work as Lanca-Waldhelm gave me and showed me in-/directly relationship with much/many discussed points from the past up to day ,so by personal interests enforced

Pseudo-nym "aether22" , "MyHome"- work ,also ready ?"MyHome",the wife side,if married : to be ready to tell the child/-s/grandsson/daugther from where to ? where

And to hold information sources up to day monovalent :
inter-brains I and II-net body-internal,paper-book lex-icons/dictionary/private mediatheque AND online  Internet ;
an off-line happening could end in an "order-chaos",if for longer time and no alternative sources

1 day per week manouvre : living internet-and electricity off- line/grid
7 days                manouvre
1 month
Learning to scale,to not/miss habits,objects !

Made part from own life experiments !

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2020, 07:34:29 PM »
I made a post about the Aether, actually I made two, oddly two others followed from others, but the lack of interest is deafening.

What you have posted here is extremely interesting stuff. I also have made many experiments in this field.

But i think most people here in the forum are interested in practical applications, with the purpose of generating significant amounts of useful energy.
They want generators which can be used to power something, with at least some watts output power.

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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2020, 07:54:18 PM »
For me, the nub of your useful piece was:
        "I finally made an unusual coil that issued a definite tangible phenomena from it's tip, the sensation became obvious the longer my hand was exposed to it, this made it easy to explore this phenomena".

You say you don't have a specific design but you must have one that would allow us to reproduce your effect.


I have many.


I then advanced that technology well beyond that coil, I can show you how to make that coil, but it is a pain in the ass to make and IMO not worth the bother.
My images show stronger ways to produce tangible effects,


Although my early experiment had something in common with Steven Mark's TPU, there was a current flow through wires and around those wires.
It was a wire (magnet wire) wound with another wire in a neat as possible right handed single layer helix advancing one thickness of wire per turn wound around a Zinc coated roofing nail fed by a signal generator, ideally pulsed DC.
Other Free Energy experimenters also used this wire/mag relationship (Markovich, Stiffler TMB, Keshe and others), current moving along magnetic field lines.


When I did make a donut version I did feel the Washboard effect that Steve felt in his TPU.


But this effect is just one of a huge number of important principles I have found (hundreds probably) that can be incorporated into a Free Energy experiment.


BTW, the experiment chanced upon a second effect, Copper 29 feeds energy into Zinc 30, there are a number of Free Energy claims that use Zinc as a key component, one being that device with the horseshoe magnets (another often used technique) iron wire (another important point) and mercury rectifiers, the Zinc was said to be specially conditioned, maybe that means charged by energy from Copper somehow.
In addition I seem to recall that Louis Rota had Zinc in his Free Energy and Antigravity work and also specially conditioned it!


All this tech is connected, Louis Rota leads to Stubblefeld, and Stubblefield leads to Tesla and Keely, all 4 (no, 5) using an interesting mix of metals, that is because each metal outputs a different flavour of aetheric energy and when aetheric energy of one flavour moves through wire of a different element, the energy moves with less friction.


Talk of metals leads to Moray which some accounts have him including large chunks of Silver and lead in his experiment in a manner that makes no sense conventionally.


Stubblefield, Tesla and Rota and Keely all share this multi metal technique, but in addition all followed an aether/telluric type model.


I mentioned horse shoes, an experimenter you won't have heard of reported a mist developed from pointing 4 Horshoe magnets in on a center, this lead to an event where he was teleported infront of witnesses and somehow returned but a piece of equipment (gas mask) remained where he went (Cairo Egypt) and this was returned by some kind person as his name and address were on it.
He reported the first effect was the table in the zone affected by these horseshoe magnets become murky and distorted in a circular manner, an aether vortex.


This lines up with reports of someone who replicated Leedskalon's horseshoe magnetic rotor, they saw distortions of air like heat waves (Reich talks about orgone doing this) and it is just the inverted version of that the other guy did.


Then there is Stan Deyo's account of the wedding cake antigravity device, he used washers with a cut though them wound with wire so that forms a C shape electromagnet, this device also produced this visual anomaly!  Oh, and it used iron wire again.


I can explain why U and C horseshoe type forms do this at an aetheric level, and why the index of refraction of the air/space was apparently changed.


Going back to the devices that have current move along magnetic field lines, many of those had current which passed through insulators at voltages they shouldn't have, I have written about that correlation before, there are many data points for it, but if you assume it is "just a magnetic field and a current" you won't realize that the current needs to be aetheric for it to perform the feat, just putting a wire along a magnetic field isn't enough, the input needs to be suited, and wire needs to be suited, aetheric energy can be lost out of a sharp bend or be ruined by a bad join, but these things are less of an issue if you know what thoserules are.








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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2020, 08:03:23 PM »
What you have posted here is extremely interesting stuff. I also have made many experiments in this field.

But i think most people here in the forum are interested in practical applications, with the purpose of generating significant amounts of useful energy.
They want generators which can be used to power something, with at least some watts output power.


Sure, that is understandable.


But how is trying to replicate Free Energy devices blindly, ignorantly going for everyone?
Fumbling around in the dark under the illusion that is is just electromagnetic isn't getting them far.


No, I don't have a plan for a full proof Free Energy device, what I have is the start of a Science that will lead to Free Energy and more, it makes it much easier to develop Free Energy when you aren't ignorant of the rules.


Try making a radio without understanding how electricity works, you could have the plans but if you thought it worked with just sound, or water, or pneumatics, what you be able to make a working radio?
Maybe, like one chance in a million you would make the battery, the wire connections, the tuning elements and rectifier and speaker accurately and tune it in to get a result.
Would someone who also think's it runs by some other means be able to effectively replicate your lucky success, no.


And that is why these devices aren't successful replicated, they are Aetheric and people don't want to believe this, they ignore the actual mechanism by which it works.


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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2020, 08:09:40 PM »
And that is why these devices aren't successful replicated, they are Aetheric and people don't want to believe this, they ignore the actual mechanism by which it works.
Yes this could be the main reason. I would even say that most of the original builders of such devices don't really understand why they are working.
(If they are working at all, i have never seen one working with my own eyes.)

Please continue posting your experiments here. I'm sure there is interest, even if you don't get much resonance immediately.
This kind of stuff takes some time to sink in and sometimes it has to be read several times...

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2020, 09:11:25 PM »
Yes this could be the main reason. I would even say that most of the original builders of such devices don't really understand why they are working.
(If they are working at all, i have never seen one working with my own eyes.)

Please continue posting your experiments here. I'm sure there is interest, even if you don't get much resonance immediately.
This kind of stuff takes some time to sink in and sometimes it has to be read several times...


With at least one person to interact this, that is doable.


But without even one person, just me talking away to myself post after post, that becomes increasingly hard to find a reason to continue to spill your guts without some feedback, in other words, please chip in and I will continue to share.


Let's take a look at a simple but powerful effect, this one is a super recent discovery.


Take a coil, or Disc, anything circular (not tried this with other shapes) and then in some fashion you want to represent the inside of it and the outside of it with two different numbers.


What numbers you use are up to you but they must be from this list, some might work better than others.


6, 12, 20, 30, 42, 56, 72, 90, 110, 132 and 156.
What are these numbers, they are multiplications of sequential numbers (3*2=6, 4*3=12, 5*4=20), you can go above 156 if you like (12*13) but why bother.




Put the larger number on he outside (use say 156) and the smaller number on the inside, use say 12.
This makes for a vortex of energy.


So how to manifest those numbers?
You could measure the inside diameter, multiply by Pi to get the circumference, then divide by the chosen number and cut a length of wire that long, or set a caliper to that length.
You then do the same with the outside diameter and divide by the higher number.


Or you can use some example of the chosen number, so maybe use 6 magnets inside and 12 or 20 magnets on the outside diameter.


Or, you could wind 6 turns on the inside diameter and 12 on the outside diameter.


Or do several of these!


Or you could use elements that represent these numbers.  Magnesium is 12, Zinc is 30, so Magnesium on the inside and Zinc on the out, or Barium is 42, the key to Floyd Sweets VTA according to legend.
Calcium is 20, You could use that.


Want it stronger?
Let's look at 3 6 9


3x2=6 and 3x3=9
So we take a seed number (3 is the lowest number this can be done with any above it are find) and multiply by itself and by the number immediately below.


So this gives us the following sets, with the seed in the middle because it relates to the numbers either side.


6-3-9
12-4-16
20-5-25
30-6-36
42-7-49
56-8-64
72-9-81


These numbers generate energy, so now the center instead of being just 12 could be 12, 4 & 16.
The outside could be 156 13 169 which is 13*12 and 13*13 (squared) along with 13 itself.


Another very powerful and simple effect which can be combined with the above is to shield half of a coil or ring from energy coming in (better to invert the energy actually, but let's keep things simple) from the outside, and half the energy coming from the inside, but rotated 180 degrees.


Here is an example of both of those principles combined, there are 156 divisions on the outside and (half of which are faint, but the spacing establishes the number) and 1 on the inside (half of which are faint).
This also acts to generate the split shield effect.


This works despite the fact that the circle is extremely thick, that makes it much harder.
In addition you could print this and place a metal circle (ring, coil, washer) such that it fits between the inner and outer of this and it will just from the print up establish an aether vortex.


The point is that this could be incorporated into a coil, pancake coil, regular solenoid, and circular form you might be experimenting with.


I am not looking to get people to make a specific Free Energy design, I am trying to give people the tools (the sensitivity, the comprehension) to bring in the critical components that are needed for Free Energy to occur.  Not necessarily sufficient, but necessary components for Free Energy.


But, for any of this to be taken seriously, people need to know that this is REALLY REAL, and that requires that enough people try and feel the energy from these images, it only takes a minute and maybe 50% wont' feel a thing, but some will if enough try, and some won't feel a little, they will feel a lot!


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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2020, 09:47:28 PM »
Yep. I stuck my hand in the field of the GK4 and it burned the right hand thumb nerve and both optic nerves. I am not blind but the thumb still has problems.
Most these devices we see here are simple open faced microwave generators.Putting a meter or scope on it entails sticking a metal rod in the field.Connecting a meter or scope on it entails shorting it through your measuring device.Search for safe testing techniques on Tesla coils for a start.After that you will have a better handle if you have something or not.As far as eliminating charlatans, always look for a mess, cables going off in the distance, dirt floor testing beds, and the proverbial battery in the light bulb trick.We know what countries these tricks come from.
Take a microwave oven outside and rigged the door open. Place an incandescent light bulb near the opening. Turn on the oven. The light will turn on.Lets flush out the laughing idiots now. The test is no different than placing a light bulb in the field of a Tesla coil.


Glad it didn't leave you blind!


The TPU is most assuredly creating an aether vortex, as I have mentioned when I made a TPU like design I got the washboard effect when moving it.
I didn't know it attracted lightening, but Boyd Boyce claimed the same of his (and it manifested storms).


Again we see the use of mixed conductors too, with the iron wire in the core.


If you use the numbers I mentioned in my previous post, or the shielding I mentioned you will enhance a TPU significantly, you might feel energy from it without plugging it into the power, and in this form the energy is safer.


You have made me more wary when it comes to powered research and not just images.
I can develop so fast, learn so quickly with images I am often reluctant to do hardware type experiments which take much longer.


In addition to what else I have mentioned, I would note that done ight, folded wires both crate a sort of aetheric vibration (aetheric AC or pulsed DC)  but also when induced by some influence (voltage induced by EMF) it generates what I term "gross power", gross power is where you have large amounts of balanced energy loss and gain, it happens in motor-generators, magnet motors and in bifilar coils induced with an EMF.
It also happens with the Tesla switch and with an unusual form of capacitor (or two caps in series) where there is a voltage on the middle section such as one cap is like a charging cap and one like a discharging cap at any moment.


Consider the attraction and repulsion of magnets on a permeant magnet motor, magnets repelling and attracting, this nets to almost zero, but huge degrees of energy interaction are occurring!
If these were each individually powered electromagnets we would see huge generation and energy use occurring at the rotor rotates, but this occurs with permeant magnets these same effects occur but we don't "pay" for it.


This significant energy gain and loss (balanced creation and destruction) is just one component of many Free Energy and Antigravity devices, other times this "virtual' or gross power doesn't occur because the device really just uses large amounts of energy.


GK, if you involve the aether and for the moment don't use electrical input, you might even find the energy has ability to heal the harm it did to you, I had demonstrated absolute healing miracles with this technology, indeed it is the only semi reliable physical effect I have demonstrated, I have not much to show with physical effects because I have done little that has been physical or powered.


Also, honestly, at this rate if I had full success I wouldn't share it since why risk the harassment or possible attempts to kill mw if no one is going to listen anyway?
I think wile I am sharing this aetheric stuff "they" aren't concerned enough, but all bets are off if I had effective OU/FE.


So I can really only share openly and effectively now, once I get results I would be unlikely to share.






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Re: Extreme disinterest in provable breakthroughs on this group.
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2020, 03:16:44 AM »
SM produced a video of a U shaped TPU. The video disappeared.

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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2020, 10:13:26 AM »
SM produced a video of a U shaped TPU. The video disappeared.
GK, I had a reply for you, but then I clicked to another window to look something up and it went away, some add loaded, didn't know what happened.
So then I re-wrote an even longer reply, only to have the EXACT SAME THING HAPPEN, it is an ad on the left of the screen, the fucking image doesn't load so it looks like regular blue background.


So honestly, I'm not sure what to say, I'm not going to type that whole thing for a third time.


But here is the link I went looking for, now without ay real context:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/k85j36/as_above_so_below_electrons_and_the_ether/gewmp8x/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


Okay, well yeah, I didn't know SM used a U shape, but O's are the most common shape in this work and the broken O or C U horseshoe type shape is close behind.


I then mentioned other designs and then mentioned important components for making a Free Energy or antigravity device (the two technologies are related) work, if you want me to list important considerations for getting Free Energy to work,  check list so to speak ask and I will write it out, but not right this minute.


Correction this is the link I was looking for:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/k85f1j/coils_and_wireless_charging/gews703/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2020, 10:19:46 AM »
Cavity strucure effect,Grebennikov
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&ei=zQ7OX5GlHM-_gQa-rbzgDw&q=grebennikov+cavity+structure+effect&oq=grebennikov+cavit&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgYIABAWEB46BAgAEEM6AggAOgIILjoHCC4QQxCTAjoFCC4QkwI6BAgAEB46BAgAEBM6CAgAEBYQHhATUMklWNdyYImEAWgBcAB4AoABtQGIAd8akgEFMTMuMjCYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEAwAEB&sclient=psy-ab
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Usherenko effect !?


 https://www.google.com/search?q=usherenko+effekt&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=usherenko+effekt&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.7404j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


btw: " ..... disinterest .... " learned ? not : ".... desinterest ...."  ?


 Do you do not read ( resonant = self-reflection before outing/publishing) during tipping ? interesse/interest and not interest = des-inter-est

Latin :

 nonus redere         resonare    sibi  reflectare ante             publicare     durius tip-p-are       inter esse 


You write latin,thinks in an gaelic
                       
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