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Offline BEP

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2475 on: September 16, 2007, 03:43:33 AM »

Then, the tank circuits will be exicted by the natural magnetic Schumann resonance, but feed one output to the other for some additon of signals and feedback, the output might just go through the roof !!

EM

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Re: Lords of the Ring
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2476 on: September 16, 2007, 07:02:43 AM »
@ Bolt

I hope, more than anything, that this works, as does GK, and the rest.  What I find astounding, is that you have reached in three weeks, the same conclusion I had reached over many, many months in my Theory and experiment thread.  If you never have read my thread in those three weeks, that would actually be even more of a confirmation, since we have come up with almost the exact theory of operation.  But I give you Kudos and compliments, for in the "how to implement" you have done a marvelous job.  (If and when it works!  LOL) 

Similarities in our thinking:
1.  7.3 Hz (though I have in researched different math, as to how to have that as a "beat" frequency.  If this does not work, you may want to read the math on my thread, and try it with a 14.6 Hz difference to obtain the 7.3.
2.  The use and tapping into "standing waves".
3.  The use of Sine waves
4.  The "audio" component
5.  The "tuned loop circuit", which is where I was at last opportunity for research.
6.  The "cutting" of the collector to "resonance" to "tune" it.

I take no credit for your theory, simply amazed someone else came to near identical thinking.  It gives me great hope that this may actually work.  I do hope that GK will wind a special coil to the specs that you have given, to test this with.  We have high hopes. 

I know that some see the SM TPU working "differently" then you have laid out here, or I, in my thread laid out, but no matter what, it will be a grand experiment!   ;D

@ GK
"Remember the KILL switch!  LOL   ;)  Good luck my friend!

High regards,
Bruce

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2477 on: September 16, 2007, 08:29:16 AM »
I found these in my bins.
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/D/A/C/7/DAC7541AJP.shtml
Propagation delay of 100ns = 10 Mhz pulse, parallel loading.

Found one of these too:
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/U/A/F/4/UAF42AP.shtml

And gobs of motor driver ICs from 40 amp motors down to miniature camera motors.

Just got curious about my dark inventory.

Got the 2 signal gens done and running. They needed bipolar supply. I have a +12v only. I look in my dark inventory and find 7660's. Amazing little bugger. Max is +10v. So I put a 7808 in place then the 7660 and viola. +-8v. Now have bipolar for xr2206 gens. Beautiful sine waves. xr2206 run very stable. Freq adj pots cranky. I could put the dac7541ajp's in to give 12 bit control. Hardwire the numbers I need, hehe. Fits the 12v operation.

Am jumping on the ad826 class A amps. Need dual supply here too. Will use previous +-8volt. 2 amps on 1 chip. I'll put the better channel separation in later using a 2nd 78L05 setup.
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/A/D/8/2/AD826AN.shtml
http://www.geocities.com/leobodnar/audio_amplifiers.html?20076

--giantkiller. Lots of analog here.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2477 on: September 16, 2007, 08:29:16 AM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2478 on: September 16, 2007, 11:43:20 AM »
btentzer thanks for the heads up on your ideas too we must be heading the right way everything else has been tried there is not much left .. oh only triangle waves. LOL

GK your doing a great job on those boards. The class A amps are very greedy on the juice make sure use heat sink and the temp sense diodes must be done you cant skip that otherwise they turn into a molton blob on your desk. If you get stuck you might have to run the sig gens and amps off 2  little 12 volts yuasa batteries back to back to give you the dual supply and enough amps for the class A amps. It might seem an overkill but it has to be better to drive this with ease rather then risking any distortion and ruining the tests. You can of course test these amps on speakers first i bet they sound fantasic! DC to VHF :)

When SM started using tubes he would have had access to a good 2 or 3 watts of clean audio per channel so it makes sense. 

 In fact if you wanted to "play" you could jut try using the sig gens and just see if you can spot anything nice with clean sine waves.  However you might also need to make a GK5 bigger and better to put control  in the center as SM suggests but whatever you wont see anything decent without ferrite baluns and magnets.


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2479 on: September 16, 2007, 01:50:21 PM »
analogue with steriods

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2480 on: September 16, 2007, 01:57:42 PM »
Where do you guys get Steven Marks original/authentic writings from? 

Thanks

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2481 on: September 16, 2007, 02:42:01 PM »
@btentzer

ha!!!

you and your whole underground crew wait for someone else to do the work


ha!!!


sounds about your speed

ist

i managed to find some small feroitte rings you all think they are too small? they are 1" x .5" with a .5" hole in the centre

i found a video on youtube with a verry familiar voice we all know he was demonstrating a magnet motor purly mechanical verry neat  ;)
if i come across it i will drop the link here

well i found the link listen to his voice sure sounds the same as sm in the tpu videos but if im wrong no loss it is a verry kool vid half way down this page

http://www.newebmasters.com/freeenergy/index.shtml
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 04:16:04 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2482 on: September 16, 2007, 04:52:42 PM »
@btentzer

ha!!!

you and your whole underground crew wait for someone else to do the work


ha!!!


sounds about your speed

ist



@ ist
Now, William, that was not very nice, nor true.  I and others are doing great work.  Also, GK is one of those.  So try to play nice.

@ All
I agree completely with Mannix, that if this experiment is to have a hope of succeeding, it should also be duplicated with tubes, and see if there is a difference.  IST and Mannix, both of you have tubes, why not conduct the same experiment and compare it with GK's results?

This is an experiment that more than one person should attempt...in my humble opinion. 

@ Bolt
Perhaps you could put together a schematic of the controller with the help of Mannix and how it would look, using tubes.  This would be a great help to some, who would like to experiment in that direction.  Thanks!!  This would give GK's results, lined up against another's results, using tubes.  And we can really see if there is anything to our ideas, without feeling we missed the truth (conversion, catalyst) because we did not use tubes.

Cheers,
Bruce

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2483 on: September 16, 2007, 05:16:49 PM »
Gothic, that is a great posting.  thanks

Nice work GK and Mannix

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Re: Lords of the Ring
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2484 on: September 16, 2007, 05:17:03 PM »
@bruce

i apoligize but this is opensource

but i think we would have gotten further on this project if you  and the rest would have continued to post public insted of hideing in the shadows

william

well i was going to build the 3 layor but insted i will build the one bolt posted like the sm 15 and the sm 17  my gages are not just right on the wire but it dosent matter  this is to show what i finally see  out of all this and if it is wrong then it is 1 less that some one will have to do


hummmm.....             funny thing......

157" or 13'1" or 3.99999 m   on a 4" tpu  works out to  exactly 10 turns just thought i would mention that

my new ring a quick pic i just threw it to gather i have not started the controls yet or the center coil

 


 
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2485 on: September 16, 2007, 06:22:16 PM »
We are all brave in how we afford to step out and conquer.

--giantkiller. Building an army, one soldier at a time.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2486 on: September 16, 2007, 07:08:07 PM »
A few pages back I posted the graphs for ADDITION and MULTIPLICATION of two frequencies close to each other.

Now, if we apply a diode and extract the ENVELOPE of the ADDITION signals, what do we have?

Take a look.   You see, we have our DC offset, and an AC component. 

So if he uses 6 kHz, and 6.0075 kHz,   The slow AC component will interact with the 7.5 Hz Schumann component and induce more power.  The ripple will be one of about 6kHz, the working frequncy, and SM mentions it as "hash".

EM

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2487 on: September 16, 2007, 07:13:01 PM »
A few pages back I posted the graphs for ADDITION and MULTIPLICATION of two frequencies close to each other.

Now, if we apply a diode and extract the ENVELOPE of the ADDITION signals, what do we have?

Take a look.   You see, we have our DC offset, and an AC component. 

So if he uses 6 kHz, and 6.0075 kHz,   The slow AC component will interact with the 7.5 Hz Schumann component and induce more power.  The ripple will be one of about 6kHz, the working frequncy, and SM mentions it as "hash".

EM


Good point EM...


Guys,

If that 7.83 HZ of the Schumann is really involved in SM's TPUs, and I won't discount that at all, then Marco's experiment should be one of your highest order references for figuring out how SM taped the Schumann!

Marco's Dancing Magnets..........

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2814.0.html

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« Reply #2488 on: September 16, 2007, 07:43:51 PM »
I've been playing with my newest TPU and I probably mentioned this before, but at certain frequencies of resonance (or standing wave)  it seems to interact with  another signal, or maybe with its delayed self (after going round once or more)

Anyway, a very interesting phenomena happens as I'm watching it on the oscilloscope.  As I approach the resonant frequency,  all of a sudden the FREQUENCY starts to plumet toward DC !!! (on one of the coils only I belive), then as I move the frequency knob of my AC source, it starts to come back to what it should be.   On the other coil I can see the resonant build in AMPLITUDE, but frequency is stable.   Very weird !!!  

It's a very intersting frequency shifting phenomena that I've only seen happen in circular tracks, possible interference with Schumann?  With the signal itself? with both?  Is this the conversion? Is this a mixer of sorts?

EM
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 08:58:15 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2489 on: September 16, 2007, 09:28:56 PM »
Sweet stuff!

@Steven M.,
I think I stumbled. 8) :o ;) :)

@Bolt,
I hooked the 2 sig gens to my Bose acoustic radiator. Thanks.

@all,
I went to the next step after theory into virtuality and  created 2 tpus. A 4 foot and an 8 foot with sound waves. These are the distances where the rogue waves appear. Yep. Sure sounds like a TPU running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgkjMPZZqgQ
http://www.youtube.com/v/JgkjMPZZqgQ


--giantkiller. AFB( another freak bomb)! Would you expect anything less?
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