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Author Topic: Lords of the Ring  (Read 943641 times)

Grumpy

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1185 on: April 20, 2007, 12:58:41 AM »
(Thank Otto for that site.)

GK - It is just words until applied, so - Just build it.!

In case any of you are wondering - all of our heads (minds) have been screwed with in our search for knowledge.

Moab

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1186 on: April 20, 2007, 03:22:13 AM »
there is a box, Stand on it and look for real answers ;)

giantkiller

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1187 on: April 20, 2007, 06:26:13 AM »
@Moab, Grumpy,
I am building.
These are the 2 collector PVCs I received. Ea is 20 turns 24 gauge 4" diam 1" height.
I have single wind 4 controls 25 turns ea.

2 layers roughed in.

The other one is a 6" diam 1 turn ezflow collector with 30 ft 22awg stranded bifilar 390721-bucking coil 4 segment controllers. I will post this pic when I get it roughed in.

Then I will terminate the two coils at the next step.

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Working Unit!!!!!
« Reply #1188 on: April 20, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »
Great Work Roberto!!!!

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ChemTrails, ChemTrails, What's in your sky?
Google it.


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« Last Edit: April 22, 2007, 02:35:38 AM by FatBird »

Moab

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1189 on: April 20, 2007, 02:25:04 PM »
Yes Thanks Fatbird, I am trying to replicate it :D. Ronotte has offered his help in doing it as well. @Ronotte Grate Documentation. That makes life much easyier on the bench. @ Fatbird you should also replicate it Thanks! M.M.

UncleFester

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1190 on: April 21, 2007, 03:57:28 AM »
Sure wish I could read doc files = )........... PDF....the universal format of internet documentation

UncleFester

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1191 on: April 21, 2007, 04:31:37 AM »
Found the PDF version.... :-X

Rosphere

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1192 on: April 21, 2007, 05:12:58 AM »
See my new avatar.  I think we need a bunch of these fcukres in a ring with a top half inner coil and a bottom half inner coil.  One to catch the electrons in one direction and the other in the other.  Bring it on down now, one two three four...  Sorry, I've been drinking.
:(

EDIT ONE:  What I mean is that we have short sections of crashing control coils slanted in the same direction around a tall ring so as to send the resulting electron beams off on a slant around the ring.  The top inner ring's fine copper wires catches the electrons and they move along in the opposite direction as the bottom ring.  Bring all the right ends together and...
???

EDIT TWO: "Sir, back away from from the adult beverages."  Wire photo added.  I should wait until tomorrow to test it, if I remember what it is.
:P
« Last Edit: April 21, 2007, 06:06:05 AM by Rosphere »

UncleFester

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1193 on: April 21, 2007, 05:38:38 AM »
I agree with the coil setup. I still need to read through and get more out of Ronette's writup but the principle seems simple. I do believe that self powered control coils is the way to go although there is less control over two different frequency inputs. What still boggles me is that we have him using a totally different frequency than what was mentioned by the professor (3-5Khz). And why? Why such high frequencies? (1.4Mhz). Almost makes me want to rewind to 8 control coils, each set of four being powered by a set of IC's switching at two different frequencies. Get my idea here? Still self powered and resonating but at two different frequencies and on two different sets of control coils with zero external frequency generator needed.

Ronette's writeup was impressive...

Rosphere

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1194 on: April 21, 2007, 05:43:06 AM »
Ronette's writeup was impressive...

Ronotte's writeup is impressive.  ;)
« Last Edit: April 21, 2007, 05:11:46 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1195 on: April 21, 2007, 05:49:42 AM »
New coil status update:
ezflow collector
7 bundles of 100 conductors ea 14 gauge, total of 4 gauge, phat.

4 controllers, wiil connect as 390721. These are special though. I doubled the turns. Massive bucking. Schematic included.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1196 on: April 21, 2007, 07:38:23 AM »
GK, nice looking coil there bud. You got some strong fingers, I bet you don't even cramp up from winding any more do you? Quick build!

Rosphere, Drink lots of water and take a PMS pill, or tylenol if you don't have that, before bed, and avoid coffee in the morning. It's a diuretic and the worst thing for a hangover.

I know the PMS thing sounds funny, but it balances out your water and prevents you from becoming dehydrated in the night, the major cause of hangovers.

All this should help you remember that mysterious bunch of wires on your desk in the morning, and what to do with it. And how you got that avatar. (nice by the way)

Rosphere

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1197 on: April 21, 2007, 08:17:00 AM »
Rosphere, Drink lots of water and...

Thanks man.  I stopped about an hour ago.  If I stay awake a bit longer and drink some water, as you said, I will be fine.  The Red Green in me will not allow the PMS pill.

I was sending some 35KHz 9V-555 pulses into the two interlaced counter-wound coils, (I broke out the middle "turn around" section, cut it, and connected the right ends together-not shown in photo above.  Also, I removed the winding pin shown in the photo above.)  Essentially, two 50-wrap coils connected in parallel and counter-wound fixed at an angle to the speaker wire pair.

With probe connected to the two ends of only one of the two speaker wires, I saw flitting ghosts of vertical lines at a few resolutions of my 60MHz scope.  Only about 10-20 mV ptp but look at my setup.

Next, I put more power into my little crashing coil with two weakened 9V's and that IRF840.  I saw an interesting waveform.


Rosphere

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1198 on: April 21, 2007, 04:14:15 PM »
@GK: Sorry about all of my drunk and disorderly posting last night.

Back in college, I would sometimes hear something new in class, my creative side would take over my mind for a while, and I would miss some of the lecture.  This is what happened yesterday.

I was reading Ronotte's latest paper.  That electron burst graphic got me thinking all by itself and I went off making a quick sketch, winding wire, draining batteries, and sharing my foolishness with the world.  I did not even finish reading his paper.

So, today I hope to finish reading it.  When I finish, I will probably end up deleting my posts from last night.  Have a good laugh about them now.

@gn0stik: I woke up a bit late today but I feel fine, without the PMS pills.  Thank you for your concern and advice last night.  I may try that PMS pill trick one day,... when no one is looking.  ;)
« Last Edit: April 21, 2007, 05:12:40 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1199 on: April 21, 2007, 05:00:16 PM »
Mylords,
... with a top half inner coil and a bottom half inner coil.  One to catch the electrons in one direction and the other in the other ...
Just stumbled over that.
This somehow coincides with what I want to convey:
I think care should be taken to avoid cancellation of the currents which you create with your magnetic reconnections.
This will be difficult with a 100% symmetrical setup.

Is this why the effects of Otto's distorted mess ;-)
have not been replicated as yet?
If you take a look at the first photo in his thread again
Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
and take note of how the lampwire cuts through his control coil...
Is everybody trying to build too symmetrical? so that the yellow electron flows which take off so nicely into two opposing directions in Rosphere's avatar, in the end cancel each other out?

Just thinking out loud.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2007, 05:20:53 PM by Gustav22 »