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innovation_station

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #930 on: April 11, 2007, 07:52:05 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #931 on: April 11, 2007, 08:15:27 PM »
do not think that just because we know how it works that we have figured it all out!!

there is much more to it than what we have seen so far

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Congratulations IS !!
Can you please explain "how it works".

innovation_station

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #932 on: April 11, 2007, 08:19:41 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #933 on: April 11, 2007, 08:50:28 PM »
Let me put this to any of you as plainly as can be:
There are different stages to this thread:
There are quiet times, individual times, group times, design banter, creation times and times of relevancy. When the group comes together in it's largest coalition that is when the noise appears. It's like we have to be on guard when we come to an agreement. Someone pops up and flicks matches into the mix. At this point in time we all have our ideas and know what is necessary to keep this going. That is enough said. This has no completion and has no stopping point to satisfy all of this. Any one individual should have their place of completion or satisfaction. The outcome of what this device brings has been reiterated many times. We will keep moving on. If you are not in the mix stay out of the bowl. This thread has seen maximum activity in the last 2 weeks and we are moving in a very positive direction for such a diverse group. And that is good. This has all come about by those who have built and contributed their expertise. And that is an even better thing. Let's not cowtow to any noise or invite any negativity into our path.
Let's keep our focus.

--giantkiller. No pop-ups, please.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #934 on: April 11, 2007, 08:51:51 PM »

@ grumpy can you explain the hall effect for the people as you are verry knowalegeable
 

when I first read that, I was going to reply with:

"Hall Effect? and I thought it was massless potential"

The Hall Effect, is the variation in voltage potential across a conductor when moving through a perpendicualr magnetic field, or to quote Wilkipedia:

"The Hall effect refers to the potential difference (Hall voltage) on the opposite sides of an electrical conductor through which an electric current is flowing, created by a magnetic field applied perpendicular to the current. Edwin Hall discovered this effect in 1879."

Back to memory again, a magnetic field causes electrons to curve to the side and if the field is strong enough (like in an electron trap) the electrons get stuck in the field and go round and round (Marinov's MAGVID uses this effect to great advantage.)  So, the magnetic field is casuing the electrons to move to the side and this creates the difference in potential that Hall discovered.

What do you really have?  What is the power (current x voltage) in verses the power out?  Making a light get brighter or dimmer is not quantitative unless you are lighting a 110v or 220v bulb off a 9v battery.

innovation_station

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #935 on: April 11, 2007, 09:05:08 PM »
hear is a link of a video explaining the hall effect

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3J_ItiDmnG8



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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #936 on: April 11, 2007, 09:21:10 PM »
hi guys

new to posting  but not new to sight.
thanks to gks  file  i now have a  3 layer tpu wired to ottos  specs.
now if one of you all gould  kindly  pm me with a driver diagram. i will try to catch up.

and talk about uses. could put a small unit in an electric stove to cook with, or put one in a heater to warm with. the list can go on. does not  have to be a big one.    LET'S PROGRESS FROM HERE

thanks to all
wer

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #937 on: April 11, 2007, 09:43:21 PM »
Hi all,

It is good that people are finally seeing the good work that Otto has done.

It was about 7 months ago that he first posted it!

Thanks Jason!

It is a starting gate that we are entering..not the finnish (sorry GK! lol)

Be aware that there are no TPU experts except for perhaps 1 person and I believe that the TPU project was not really finnished ..eg Heat problems,etc.

Carefull experiments and sharing the info is what will work here.

Be advised of just how difficult it is to put simple ideas foward,I use Ottos test as just one clear example.

If you see it as a "cash cow" just rememberer that the technology is already "owned".

Perhaps TPU classes could be something that people might pay you for.... It is early days.

In one way we may be forcing the official release of Stevens discovery. Let's see ...so very  much to learn.


There will be many things to discover and learn, For most of us this is probably the first REAL "new" technology that we have ever really been involved with.


We can all see that just because something is put in our face does not mean that we will be able to comprehend it properly.

It is likley that people will be puttimg themselves in danger as they continue with this..Take personal  responsibility or walk away ..NOW!

Be mindful of people who will drag this thread down and claim to understand TPU's   none of us do.....YET.
Me?? I just KNOW they work.

We are however, killing each other over oil. and gassing ourselves to death in the process.That I do understand!

Take care of each other,


Lindsay Mannix




innovation_station

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #938 on: April 11, 2007, 10:24:11 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #939 on: April 11, 2007, 10:28:17 PM »
hi guys

new to posting  but not new to sight.
thanks to gks  file  i now have a  3 layer tpu wired to ottos  specs.
now if one of you all gould  kindly  pm me with a driver diagram. i will try to catch up.

and talk about uses. could put a small unit in an electric stove to cook with, or put one in a heater to warm with. the list can go on. does not  have to be a big one.    LET'S PROGRESS FROM HERE

thanks to all
wer

And those forward looking statements are exactly what are expected. Does anyone see these hanging on a wall as a air core speaker? Or as dymanic art or mood generator? Trash anihilator, Some kind of molecular inhibitor or exciter?

--giantkiller. The fun is just beginning.

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Wire.
« Reply #940 on: April 11, 2007, 11:21:19 PM »
I seem to see more posts saying that Green Iron Garden Wire works better for the Collector Coil than copper does.  Am I right on that because I am really stuck?

Thanks.

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weri812

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #941 on: April 11, 2007, 11:29:20 PM »
hy mannix and gk  and all

have a look at this for cooling

http://gruntville.com/reviews/wc/vm_pcice/page2.php

could use with hi temp teflon tubes nonconductive and non magnetic

wer

innovation_station

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #942 on: April 11, 2007, 11:40:43 PM »
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innovation_station

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #943 on: April 11, 2007, 11:46:23 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #944 on: April 12, 2007, 12:06:14 AM »
@innovation ---Wound counter clock wise ? not sure ........... heres a wire layout that i came up with. The orange circles are wires that may not be used but put them in for future reference. I tried to keep things color coded to make it easier to follow. any feed back will be appreciated. this is on a two coil TPU - the bottom coils need to be shifted to center up on the top coils. It was just easier to draw it this way.         @ otto - thank you , In my early days of Ham radio it comes back to me seems we built this coil to boost our antena output , was just a cheep way to do it we were poooo back then LOL. There are just so many post I missed it and some times i don't log on so i didn't see  the JGP image. thanks again Mike