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Author Topic: Lords of the Ring  (Read 947923 times)

simonmagus

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #765 on: April 03, 2007, 09:59:37 PM »

also im sure someone right now is making a lot of money off of us this is why im removing all of my work over time from here and posting some where people care and money is not the motive


If there is someone profiting from free-energy tech at least they are bringing it to the public.  "Free energy" can help:

*end homelessness,
*end wars around the world
*stop government oppression
*human social development
*stimulate development of advanced technologies (for space and beyond)
*reverse pollution
*end corporate slavery
*end financial slavery
* ...(list goes on)
 
Why should I care if someone makes a few bucks from overunity technology? It belongs to the world.

If you are seeking prestige from a significant discovery, public documentation/disclosure is your friend. Just look at SM, he will most likely never be mentioned in the history books cause of his secrecy.(assuming his device is real)
« Last Edit: April 03, 2007, 11:08:38 PM by simonmagus »

EMdevices

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #766 on: April 03, 2007, 10:13:23 PM »
Hi guys,

I've been away for a while but I take a peak now and then   :)

GK grabbed my attention from gn0sis.com with a schematic using hall sensors, what has become of it?

InovationStation,  I haven't seen your postings,  did you accomplish something wonderful?  I like you're picture.

Can somebody summarize?   

1) Are we all thinking now that "kicks" are  the high flyback voltage spikes, when current is interupted to an inductor?

2) Is the prefered method for the TPU, the Tesla rotating magnetic field configuration with 4 sector coils?

I'll be watching, and later contributing once I get the Bedini Motor behind me  :)

Sincerely,

EM

Jdo300

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #767 on: April 03, 2007, 11:43:33 PM »
Can somebody summarize?   

1) Are we all thinking now that "kicks" are  the high flyback voltage spikes, when current is interupted to an inductor?

Yeap, but those are not just BEMF spikes, they are RE spikes too. This is true because you can still generate them even with a bifilar coil, which should have little to no BEMF. I did a very simple experiment to prove this and will post the details as soon as I get a chance.

2) Is the prefered method for the TPU, the Tesla rotating magnetic field configuration with 4 sector coils?

That is just one way to do it. Think about the rotating field as a byproduct of what we are trying to accomplish. The ultimate goal is to smash the coils' fields up against eachother, this increases the BEMF spikes. But in a different way, the bifilar and anti-bifilar coils do the same thing. We produce a sharp potential gradient using the E and B fields, and when that gradient collapses sharply, that generates a very short, but powerful burst of radiant energy. Those bursts are all the meaningless spikes we have all been seeing on our collector coils.

Remember what Mr. Mark said, each spikes by itself doesn't amount to much but when you make enough of them, fast enough, then they will grow into a collectible power spike. Now add that in with the fact that each coil has its own unique frequency, which is proportional to the diameter, and what do you have? Well, for one thing, it is true that a small coil will have a very high resonant frequency, well into the Mhz. So what do you do if you want to make your coil resonate and you can't drive it directly?

Think Tesla Coil and resonant rise. In everyday tesla coils, one simply tunes the primary and secondary coils, and 'taps' the primary coil with a frequency that is some sub-harmonic of the system, and it will naturally run up to its natural resonant frequency. Tesla accomplished this with his fine-tuning of the spark gap length, but we can fine tune the TPU with the adjustment of the on time and frequency of the pulses. Just because we are pulsing in the kHz does not mean that the TPU coil is not running in the MHz! We need a fast moving field with lots and lots of spikes to accumulate enough to make some real current. So we have to learn how to tune the coils, control and collector coils, so that they will resonate with eachother... Think Tesla.

God Bless,
Jason O
« Last Edit: April 04, 2007, 01:02:07 AM by Jdo300 »

Jdo300

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #768 on: April 04, 2007, 01:01:07 AM »
Oh one other thing I aught to mention. A little self-triggering like the Bedini Schoolgirl motor might help too  ;).

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #769 on: April 04, 2007, 02:13:49 AM »
@jdo300,

already working that angle :)

I am using the Bedini Window motor circuit and getting some interesting results.

Sauron

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #770 on: April 04, 2007, 07:29:50 AM »
And so the question arises, bang the coils, or run them sequentially.
it's good to see we are moving ahead nicely again.


Dansway

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #771 on: April 04, 2007, 12:44:33 PM »
A few pics of me playing with my coils.
Playing with the freq's is fun and I do see resonant nodes with gain, but no fireworks yet.
Now to go about capturing the negative spike into a cap...   ;)

~D

Jdo300

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #772 on: April 04, 2007, 03:16:15 PM »
Nice looking coils man :-). I'll post some pictures of the one I completed last night when i get home this evening :-).

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #773 on: April 04, 2007, 11:49:41 PM »
@Dansway,

Looks like your trying to replicate marco, er Turbo's unit there. Nice craftsmanship tho.

Dansway

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #774 on: April 05, 2007, 12:16:03 AM »
@Starcruiser,

The pancake coil is made with flat speaker cord that doubles back on itself.  Then I have a tri-filar control warp over that.
 
I plan on feeding this pancake coil with 1,2 & 3 freq'a in combinations etc.

I was able to get a positive bias on my other coil last night, but was just sweeping various freq's and did not note anything down.  I'll investigate that again soon.  I was banging the coils together in series and at a small freq window, both postive and nagative pusles shifted to a 70/30 in favor of the positive side.

~Dan

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #775 on: April 05, 2007, 02:22:04 AM »
Dansway,

On the large TPU how many wraps do you have per control coil? What is the resistance of each coil?

If you have 3 layers and 4 control coils per with a resistance of at least 1.5 ohms each, try connecting each layers control coils in series and then each layer in series with the next. Monitor the collectors (individually and in series). I am not sure what control circuits you are using but if you can put together a Bedini window motor controller, see diagram, use the feedback coil (if you have a 4 segment connect those in series as well) for the trigger, the results you get might interest you.

As a variation connect the control coils to bang against each other (polarities reversed so you have  N-N and S-S) and try using the control circuit again (you may need to rewire the feedback segments to adjust their polarities). Let us know what you get.

:)

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #776 on: April 05, 2007, 02:36:40 AM »
you can subsitute a NTE 123 for the MPS 8099 and use NTE 196 and 197 for the others (these are NPN and PNP audio drivers, good to 4 Mhz). DOn't forget to use a diode across the points C & D to shunt the BEMF. I tried it with and without and the transistors seem to handle it with out (so far).

Forgot to mention, omit the bridge rectifier, for now.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2007, 03:17:01 AM by starcruiser »

Rosphere

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #777 on: April 05, 2007, 03:11:02 AM »
And so the question arises, bang the coils, or run them sequentially.
it's good to see we are moving ahead nicely again.

It is a question that gives me great pause.  Like the three, or is it four, macaronis twisting about their centers of gravity; I wonder if these points enter into the diameter calculation.

Folks begin to question the arc on which they planted their hedges when faced with the need to trim them down.  The height and the arc were previously derived together with all due giddiness.

Dansway

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #778 on: April 05, 2007, 03:25:34 AM »
@Starcruiser,

Thanks for the help.  I am working on several things and will also work the Bedini circuits into the tpu.
John Bedini should be working on Mark's TPU....!

~Dan


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #779 on: April 05, 2007, 04:44:58 AM »
A few pics of me playing with my coils.
Playing with the freq's is fun and I do see resonant nodes with gain, but no fireworks yet.
Now to go about capturing the negative spike into a cap...   ;)

~D

Hi Dan, nice coils.
it reminds me of the o'l days.
it has it all,

*3 coils one on top of the other.
*3 control wires all the way around.
*the control wires perpendiculair around the collectors.
*run in multiple segments.

only thing which was buggin me those day's was each segment could be fed with a collector section to help.... etc.

nice work men.

Turbo