hi Giantkiller,

i have seen many tpu's you build but i have never seen you lite a single bulb or some real power output...
may i ask how far your project is from a working device?

also, do you think this is used in a tpu?
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1872.0;attach=7567;image)

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hi Jason
do you think something like this is used in the tpu?
it is also square at the top and bottom.

Hello Sauron,

I gave your question some long thought?. and then I thought some more? and the one thing that I can connect between that transformer and the TPU is the simple explanation of what a transformer does. It converts between electric and magnetic energy; something that seems to have resurfaced lately in some of the earlier discussions about the role of iron wire.

I also noticed something else in the video clips of the open TPU that seems to have eluded me earlier:

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1872.0;attach=7573;image)

If you look closely at the windings, you will find that there are shiny spots at specific intervals on the control windings of the open TPU. Assuming that ordinary red and black speaker wire was wound on the unit, the insulation isn?t normally that shiny unless a bright spotlight was shined on them. Since this didn?t make sense to me, I studied the video more and realize that there appears to be strands of bare steel wire wrapped in the gap between the windings of the speaker wire! If this assumption is in fact true, there are some serious implications by doing this. If we assume that the red wire and black wire have opposite currents flowing in them (bifilar coil), then there is a special effect that Mr. Mark may be taking advantage of. Check out my diagram below.

We know that two opposite currents flowing in adjacent wraps of wire produce a canceled magnetic field. However, we must realize that this net canceled field is observed at a distance from the coil. If we zoom down to the gap between the two conductors of speaker wire in the coil, the magnetic field is, in fact, Not zero. It adds at that point to produce a north pole that extends out of the coil at right angles to the core it is wrapped on. So if the iron wire happens to be placed in that gap, that North pole (or south pole depending on the current flow) would magnetize the iron as the pulses were fired. Now, we know that the iron will hold that pole orientation for a lot longer than the copper will once the pulse in the coil shuts off. So, my hypothesis is that the iron wire?s magnetic field will act to sustain the current flow in the bifilar coil, which is consistent with what innovation_station was seeing in his experiment. But in addition to that, since the iron wire is iron, once magnetized, it may magnetically couple with the earth?s electromagnetic field even more ?coupling with the magnetic component? to convert even more energy!

More to come?

God Bless,
Jason O

P.S. I also attached an article I wrote about making radially magnetized coils, which applies to my theory here.

Guys,

The TPU is a air core transformer and more, what do you think you get when you use more than one layer (2 or 3) the control coils will interact as transformers. Those who have their TPU's can verify that. The action we are looking for is the radiant energy and its conduction or transformation into usable power.

Capacitors are a requirement here since they can transform RE into usable power, they are our converters. The trick now is to efficiently create the circumstance in which to generate RE, thus we look to 90 degree coupling of the control coils to the collectors which can only allow RE to be received, thus these are our collectors.

The debate rages on as to what is the control coil configuration??? Two coils, three? maybe more. We know we use these coils to generate the event that creates our RE, the question I have is since it must be magnetic so then how might we increase the efficiency thus reach the OU or at least unity.

I was pondering this and was reading John Bedini's thread on Yahoo and he was talking about using super pole magnets to increase his efficiency of his window motor. He states it creates a sharp field and the magnet configuration produces a magnified output by 4 times its normal strength, he makes them using 2 magnets super glued together with their poles facing N-N or S-S. You may want to read on this latest info at the mention group.

I figure using this super pole magnet arrangement used on the control coils may help us out. Something was also mentioned about using another  magnet to perturb the super pole placing it along side the junction or plane of the magnetic field.

Any thoughts on if this would work?

Heres my toughs on the coils : have been reading about the kicks and found that interesting . The coil size is important , it depends on the size of the TPU - the coil is tuned to collapse and charge the capacitor , this means the coil is large enough to pull the electrons through the wire , but strong enough to charge the capacitor. in looking at some of the coils on the rings i feel the coil is to long.  the scenario is like the Pentium balls when one ball hits it sends the shock wave through the next three ball and the 5th ball goes in to motion (kinetic energy). in the coils being so long the magnetic Field is doing the same thing went it springs back into position a kick occurs , this is from over lapping Fields of the coil. so its bouncing back and forth trying to get its natural space back in alignment. when wrapping the coil test wrap in tight and narrow and test the capacitor that it will be used with - a big coil may be to much for the capacitor , rule of thumb is wrap the coil 20 percent over the rating , this way you know it will get a charge (with out the resistor if used) . the narrow wrap will give the other coils space for there Fields with out over lapping the critical Field. when you make the coil test the largest to energies the capacitor then start unwinding it to the minimum to energize- count the winds and then put back on the 20% you removed . just watch the over lapping Fields.   thanks Mike

Or your running stunguns on kill mode thru large loops!
Been there done that. It ain't pretty. Thought I blew up my tax machine in season.


OBTW. I went down to the nursery and found the twins still in their nest. They are destined to graduate soon if life needs to speed up.
 

And right behind them are the children from the big ass cap family. They look like they could cause a disturbance with the other children. They tend to eat alot and bite when touched.

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Quote from: giantkiller on March 27, 2007, 04:05:55 AM

Or your running stunguns on kill mode thru large loops!
Been there done that. It ain't pretty. Thought I blew up my tax machine in season.


OBTW. I went down to the nursery and found the twins still in their nest. They are destined to graduate soon if life needs to speed up.
 

And right behind them are the children from the big ass cap family. They look like they could cause a disturbance with the other children. They tend to eat alot and bite when touched.

gk you should have been a writer i quite enjoy your humor

what is that a pic of  i mean  where can i find what you have there it is not a sat reciver by chance?

That is out of a 17" computer monitor. My neighbor threw out 7 monitors and I snagged one.
google video: Dale Pond and watch the vids about the collapse of a vacuum and other frequency levels of energy. That will definately blow your tie back!

Sauron of Modor posted this so I thought I would investigate it. I knew I'd seen these before. And there they were in my inventory. I believe these could be the 'stands' of the open TPU if they are used. Could be the feedbacks/microphones/pickups. They have four connection points also like the mics in the SM17 pic. I'm gonna rip -n- strip them out and put them in the circuit.
I am glad you enjoy my approach. I hate to see someone not making progress into their dreams. Or their creativity hampered by noise. I grew up poor with big dreams and one by one through struggle and perseverence they have come true. Kinda cool to look back and say 'Yep, not a bad path chosen'. Eh? We can probably all do the same?

Stay on board and don't worry be happy. I reccomend Handel's Pastoral Symphony or William Tell's Overature, depending where you want to go.

--giantkiller. Still got 4 stones left.