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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #315 on: February 14, 2007, 08:53:19 PM »
It appears to me that we are making no real progress with the TPU. The threads are fragmenting and focus is being lost and as a result team work is suffering. Has our precious cast it's spell on us at last and confused our minds?

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #316 on: February 15, 2007, 05:31:18 AM »
Check out the pictures on page 5, 6 & 8....
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat5654723.pdf

Been studying this patent a little more. I looks like the video cable and the lamp wire are a close fit in the diagrams.

No enveloping darkness from the precious. I am just winding up for the pitch.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #317 on: February 18, 2007, 05:08:41 PM »

I put these other posts here in this thread for substantiation.

Regarding the last three posts:

I have a B.S.M.E. that whispers in my ear every day that this is not possible.  Oh, yeah?

Perhaps this is why I persist; it is not like the establishment has never lied to us before.

Atoms move, planets move, stars move, galaxies move, clusters move and it is all free inside this static force generator that exists at all levels! Don't wait for another go around, grab the brass ring this time! And let's start our own revolution! Kapeesh?

And now there are 4. A coil in the circuit is worth 2 in the mind.

--giantkiller. It is a great day to live!

Hi all,
I xpressed my frustration in how my instruments seem to go crazy when the most interesting combinations are used.



I hope things are calmed in your life when you receive this.
I fully understand your feelings of frustration. To work hard to see nothing of a positive is sometimes shattering to one's self.
I know very well... I had a great deal of help and it took us years just to develop a SS control system that would work! And this is after we knew how to make generators!!!

Let me tell you something which may be of some significance...
When I accidentally stumbled on a device that appeared to actually pull electrons from the sky, it was the ONLY working model for many months. I showed the thing to people and eventually got enough interest to get money and other engineers involved to crack the code so to speak, and be able to make more of them.
After I had the first operating unit I kept trying to make another one. It took me many many many tries just to duplicate the same unit and make it work!
I thought of everything... why couldn't I make another one that would work? I decided that there must be a few more turns of wire in the collector etc. We spent months trying to duplicate the first unit. we had money and engineering staff and we couldn't do it....
I was very afraid to dismantle the first and only working example of the device, which appeared to be the only way to see what the reason was as to why we couldn't duplicate the performance. But eventually after months of not being able to duplicate the first working model, we had no choice but to take it apart in hopes of finding out what was in the first one that we couldn't duplicate in  the others which followed.
My point to this story is.... WE spent months and months trying in every conceivable way to duplicate a unit. The only thing that kept us going night and day was the fact that we already had one. We knew it was possible to have a working device.. It was the only thing that kept us going on the  project. And even then we said I GIVE UP so many times I cant count.
We kept it up and eventually discovered the really STUPID reason why all of our duplicates wouldn't work. We then made many of the damn things in all sizes and shapes and then we tried to make a small control device which obviously had to be SS.
WEll, can you imagine how much hair we pulled out trying to figure out why we could NOT make a SS control device that would keep the Damn things on frequency!!!
We, NONE of us could think of a reason why SS devices would not work. After all they did the same things as tubes, just better, didn't they?
The reason it took soooooo long to make a successful SS control unit is because we maintained that attitude for so long. Finally we came to the conclusion that there must be SOMETHING that tube control devices did differently then SS devices. I had a friend who was a wiz-bang SS color TV expert. I asked him if he could give us some pointers on duplicating the tube control devices in a SS state device. His tips eventually pointed us in the right direction and we made SS control devices out of discreet devices which worked. Remember that this was before the big linear IC boom, so everything we did was with little discreet parts and big PC boards. By the way, we found out some very important things during our research that I am sure, very sure that none of the boys out their know about. The following is very interesting:
# 1. PC boards made out of different materials change the operating conditions of SS devices. # 2. Soldering the components at least 1/2 inch above the board itself is essential to making a good SS control unit out of discrete devices.
# 3. As you know, Large amounts of FEEDBACK is essential to frequency and control when using SS devices for everything in the electronics world, HOWEVER, it is the enemy of generators!  If anyone ever gets one of these things operating, have them measure the electro magnetic and hash radio around the unit....it will blow your mind. so, what does that do to control devices in close proximity?
Why do you think we HAD to place our control devices in the middle of the operating coil? Listen: when these units get going they F**K with the control units, changing the signals they put out and receive. they have no choice but to get off frequency and shut down. In most cases they will not even start up.
TUBES are NOT as sensitive as SS control devices and DO NOT require the massive amounts of feed back to operate. There is an advantage in tubes just from that standpoint alone, not to mention all the other things I have mentioned in the past.
I told you guys long ago...
If just these two little things are important discoveries, how far off are all the guys out there trying design their own control devices?   So tell them what I have said and listen to them all scream balderdash!! Haresy!!! And then you can tell them that we found out way back then... It is because the material some PC boards are made out of can absorb humidity... So.... depending on the conditions of humidity of the specific day, the boards would change the characteristics of the SS control circuits.
It took us a long time just to find that little thing out... we never thought of it. no one ever thought of it.... BUT, it turned out to be a very significant thing and so we used the absolute finest PC board material the government used in missiles and rockets... You see, even though no one knows about the PC board material being important to sensitive instruments and SS devices, the government did... So we learned, and learned...
And you and everybody else, God Willing, will learn too.
I am sorry it is so discouraging for you and others. The only thing that kept us going is the fact that we had a working unit to keep reminding us that it is possible. otherwise, we would NEVER have succeeded.
I have faith in you because you have understood from the beginning that i have reasons for telling you specific things. I mentioned at the beginning that, it was much easer to make one of these things work if you use tubes as a control system rather then SS devices. At least you took me seriously and because of that, I have faith in you.
Listen, do remember i mentioned that these things were in many ways like a COLOR TV in sophistication. not because of a massive amount of parts and discrete components, but because if one tiny little thing is off just a tiny little bit, the whole thing will stop working.
Just like a color TV. Now, how many different control systems and how many discrete devices were used in those individual control systems in the first color TVs?
Now, I ask you, what are these guys thinking about when they let their ego's force them to ignore things i have said in the beginning and go off trying to design and develop their own control devices using SS units. SS units which are OUTBOARD of the collector ring i might add?  Some of them have gotten results and some of them have gotten big power surges and dissipation of heat... all of which is wonderful and certainly proves the point that there is truly something going on here. BUT, i guarantee you that their SS control devices are all sitting right beside the collector... aren't they? They will probably never start the coil and get to catalyst. I am not saying it is impossible, but it will Damn difficult for these guys to get more then a big bang once in a while. And just like me, that big bang will excite them enough to continue for a while longer. Maybe one of them will read back and see where I said the SS control device must be placed inside the collector coil. then they will explode with, MY GOD, maybe that is the reason why...... and off they will go. in the right direction at least.


Thanks Mannix.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #318 on: February 21, 2007, 05:22:59 PM »
This is to be considered public domain.

I attached leads and a burned out fuse to the stungun ends. The blue, cold energy stream follows the sides of the glass housing of the fuse towards conduction. I have attained a spark gap. I am going to work my way around the circular path in the diagram. My next step outward from the stungun is to connect different loop types to see the best compression of a magnetic field in the center across the feedback. The easiest step is to fire the trigger from a 555 and to vary the mono pulse to tune to the feedbacks.

--giantkiller. 'Kick the can'.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2007, 03:16:09 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #319 on: February 21, 2007, 11:37:14 PM »
This is to be considered public domain.

I attached leads and a burned out fuse to the stungun ends. The blue, cold energy stream follows the sides of the glass housing of the fuse towards conduction. I have attained a spark gap. I am going to work my way around the circular path in the diagram. My next step outward from the stungun is to connect different loop types to see the best compression of a magnetic field in the center across the feedback. The easiest step is to fire the trigger from a 555 and to vary the mono pulse to tune to the feedbacks.

--giantkiller. 'Kick the can'.


Is the output of the stun gun DC?  If not you may not get good results because you cannot generate radiant energy with an AC spark.


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #320 on: February 22, 2007, 08:16:25 PM »
Quote
This is a quote from another site so it can be shared as much as possible...
Anybody want 'New'?
Posts start on 20070204
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22841.html#msg22841
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22844.html#msg22844
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg23001.html#msg23001
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24037.html#msg24037

I have hooked in the stungun to trigger the 20" easyflow cable 6" loop. That experiment took down my cable box, wireless router, reset and shutdown the workstation. I felt the tingle that Tesla talked about. I posted this before with the GK4 on 20070113. Again the TPUs have their feedbacks wrapped around the rings. The large TPUs have their feedbacks inside the rings. At some point SM converted from spark gap to solid state. One could also make a very small spark gap from a small rubber tube with a short nail stuffed in each end. Why is this neccessary? Smack the copper! This was a clue prior(the back side of the SM17). That was a failsafe? Don't be stupid! A stungun type circuit(Boost) is the secret for the trigger. Otto's, 390721 bucking coil,  jumpering makes kicks without the smacking circuit. But with the kick pulse fed with a boost circuit you get a raise in the potential level.
I have results. I received headaches and others have burned themselves. I have posted. And this is nothing more than you all know as of now. SM had described things to keep the greedy off course and at the same time everything he said has 2 meanings. Have a clue. The guy is a genuis in puzzles.
Posters have slammed Steven Mark, Mannix and others. Not only have you wronged others but largely your own selves to a dire degree.
Check out who else has kicks. Doesn't it make you wonder why? Aren't these important?

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Looks like he who posts the best diatribe owns the subject? The TPU feedback operation was my explanation on 20070204. The TPU is also a closed loop stungun. I had posts deleted on the other sites. I have received numerous design answers offsite from Mannix & SM and others who I work in labs with. I am the poster for these actions.
Secret club? I am sure somebody will raise their torch and pitchfork to burn out the infidel. But I have figured out the clues given and the pattern of how these are posted. Alot of people don't like games. I enjoy the 'cat and mouse' game. I visualize just like Tesla. I get an idea and throw stuff together. I am on 5 different paths right now with this technology. And the things that work are on my bench. Why don't I share? I have. I am on a roll to catch up with the flood on solutions that have become apparent to me after I built each step. You've all seen the pictures of Tesla in the huge spark field? He is sitting inside a huge stungun. Have a clue. Has anybody found UEC or the patents? Have a clue.
I was mocked for posting production plans of the SM17. I guess you won't work for me.

I have learned a massive knowledge and experience from all the sites and close relations with a certain few. And a great thanks to you all. The last 6 months in these sites has given me the knowledge to match up with where I dreamed my life would be.
This post has all the TPU triggering functionality necessary for operation.

--giantkiller. 'I know Kung Fu'. No shit...

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #321 on: February 22, 2007, 08:48:38 PM »
GK - you are starting to sound mentally unstable.  I recommend a stout alcoholic beverage.

You will not copy the TPU unless SM himself tells you how and he's not doing that.  So don't go thinking you figured it out and duiplicated it or any crap like that - regardless of what you come up with.  Look at all of the changes in direction and various explanations that have come from SM.  Throwing greedy people off?  No.  Only those who would copy the device.   No one but Mannix persued this device for ten years or so.

Three collectors, but no explanation why. Kicks mixing, earth's magnetic field, flipping device over, rotating compass, etc.

Who ever said that each TPU works the same way?  Perhaps some versions only collect and the others generate.

You are going in several directions at the same time - at one point the device is described as a generator and at other times it is only a collector.  I wish SM would make up his mind.

Re-read SM's comments on Tao's thoughts and you will see that the damn collectors go on the outside.  Also, no mention of feedback in that message - no three collectors - no rotating field - no precise frequency control - no three frequencies - no tubes - none of that BS.  Just pulse the damn wire and make sure it stops before it reaches the end. (Speed of propagation, pulse rise time, etc.)

 






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Thanks to GK.
« Reply #322 on: February 23, 2007, 02:56:34 AM »
GK, Thank you for shariing your StunGun & other ideas with us.

Because I value your expertise & opinions, may I ask a couple of questions:

1.  In your opinion is the 7.3 Hertz frequency still necessary for a functioning TPU?

2.  Is a rotating field necessary for a TPU to work?


Thank you.


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #323 on: February 23, 2007, 04:26:28 AM »
Fatbird.
A SWAG.

1 yes a harmonic of 7.83

2 rotation is a byproduct

It's like saying is heat requiard to make light. It is not. A firefly makes light without getting hot.

Go GK go! thanks for shareing!! moab

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #324 on: February 24, 2007, 05:59:34 AM »
I built the charge chamber out of a piece of yellow rubber tubing and 2 huge nails.
I succeeded in removing the stungun circuit from the casing safely. I can put it back together again should I decide to do so.

Now,
You can see in the picture that the rubber chamber is aglow. I moved the device away from my pc desktop. With the nail/conduction points closer together than any other circuit parts the charge is in the tube instead of outside. Another safety point. And it is also quieter. I really don't want it exposed anyway. I am chasing the effect in the loop of easyflow audio cable that was attached during the previous test. I will put that back in. Now this is best part. My next step is to attach one of the 555s of my controller circuit to the trigger and fire that at? (you gotta guess the frequency). Oops, times up. 7.8hz. Surprise! I will try a whole wide band of freqs while I am here anyway. Right? No telling what happens when Frankenstein blinks the first time, eh?
And the good news is I can grab the charge chamber with no shock and again there is no heat.
The power draw is +14 amp spikes. I got to change power supplies or get an automotive battery.
Another path I am going on is to fire GK4 with the circuit. And that is if the 30awg controls don't offer too much resistance. I can see why SM said lamp wire. I have GK5 which is totally lamp wire, hexfilar controllers / feedbacks with easyflow collectors. The stun gun circuit wants a dead short to the spark gap.
The next step is gonna be fun.
I hope the picture is clear enough.

--giantkiller. It's been another great week. I hope everybody else had one too.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2007, 07:06:07 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #325 on: February 25, 2007, 01:58:40 AM »
Hey Everyone,

This post seems to be a little dead lately so I thought I would post some things to get us going again. Attached are a couple of clips from Tom Bearden's video about Radionics. In the sections I chunked, he talks about how input of scalar Harmonic Waves is required to tap into the vacuum energy and he also cites references for further reading... I dunno about you all but this is the most revealing stuff I've seen in quite a while and it lines up perfectly with what Mr. Mark has been telling us about the frequencies mixing.... also Canceling of the magnetic field.... Think Scalar Waves and bifilar control windings...

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #326 on: February 25, 2007, 02:38:04 AM »
Here's the next chunk

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #327 on: February 25, 2007, 02:50:04 AM »
and wnother one

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #328 on: February 25, 2007, 02:58:54 AM »
Here's the last one.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #329 on: February 25, 2007, 03:38:33 AM »
Here is the source of the four posted avi-files:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6926340061102418615&q=Tom+Bearden%27s+video+about+Radionics&hl=en

I watched the whole thing last night.  Jdo300 gleaned some of the very best selections from this video that help explain the TPU operational concept.  Thank you, Jdo300.  What a find!  :)
« Last Edit: February 25, 2007, 02:01:21 PM by Rosphere »