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Author Topic: Lords of the Ring  (Read 943837 times)

mrl

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #210 on: January 24, 2007, 01:31:21 AM »
Ordered 6 samples of h11d1 opto isolators from Fairchild Direct. 2nd day UPS. $0.00 total cost.


Order some fast FET drivers too.  That's important.  Your rise and fall times need to be as fast as possible.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #211 on: January 24, 2007, 02:33:39 AM »
Way ahead of ya there bud! They were free too! Fets and drivers! ;D

Next I get bridge and 3055s.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #212 on: January 24, 2007, 02:36:28 AM »
Ok -- I've just visited John's site and looked at one of his schematics.  From what I can see it's the same configuration for the SCR.  I'm starting to think that it will work as wired, in that we don't fully understand what is going on within the circuit re the dynamics.

John's not stupid.  Either he has published a faulty drawing or we don't understand it.  The only way I can see the SCR turning off is if there is a pulse from the coil system that is large enough to overcome the forward bias caused by the batteries.  I'm still thinking on it, but that's what seems to be going on.

Here's the site. http://www.icehouse.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

here's the charger motor.  See attached.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #213 on: January 24, 2007, 02:37:37 AM »
Way ahead of ya there bud! They were free too! Fets and drivers! ;D

Next I get bridge and 3055s.

--giantkiller. 8)

What are you using the 3055s for, if you don't mind my asking?

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #214 on: January 24, 2007, 02:57:39 AM »
Way ahead of ya there bud! They were free too! Fets and drivers! ;D

Next I get bridge and 3055s.

--giantkiller. 8)

What are you using the 3055s for, if you don't mind my asking?

That is the power transistor 2n3055. I will have back up parts for other test. I snag samples whenever I can.

And I got that schem too.

Do you think that Bedini would blow smoke after all he's been up to at this point to falsify?
He has done too much. About the solid state ckt. Is a coil not needed? Fatbird said the inverer to the coil. So there are 2 trains of thought. I got options. Because with an inverter to the opto and radiant on the other side then this ain't tough at all. But that sounds like alot of shortcuts. ???

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #215 on: January 24, 2007, 03:01:06 AM »
Way ahead of ya there bud! They were free too! Fets and drivers! ;D

Next I get bridge and 3055s.

--giantkiller. 8)

What are you using the 3055s for, if you don't mind my asking?

That is the power transistor 2n3055. I will have back up parts for other test. I snag samples whenever I can.

And I got that schem too.

Do you think that Bedini would blow smoke after all he's been up to at this point to falsify?
He has done too much. About the solid state ckt. Is a coil not needed? Fatbird said the inverer to the coil. So there are 2 trains of thought. I got options. Because with an inverter to the opto and radiant on the other side then this ain't tough at all. But that sounds like alot of shortcuts. ???

--giantkiller.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate?  What is it that you want to do?


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #216 on: January 24, 2007, 03:17:14 AM »
Way ahead of ya there bud! They were free too! Fets and drivers! ;D

Next I get bridge and 3055s.

--giantkiller. 8)

What are you using the 3055s for, if you don't mind my asking?

That is the power transistor 2n3055. I will have back up parts for other test. I snag samples whenever I can.

And I got that schem too.

Do you think that Bedini would blow smoke after all he's been up to at this point to falsify?
He has done too much. About the solid state ckt. Is a coil not needed? Fatbird said the inverer to the coil. So there are 2 trains of thought. I got options. Because with an inverter to the opto and radiant on the other side then this ain't tough at all. But that sounds like alot of shortcuts. ???

--giantkiller.

Here's another configuration to choose from.  I'm just emitting brain farts here.  You will have to play with the resistor values to get the bias right.

If you're going to experiment with these circuits I would get the oscillator working and not worry about the the SCR circuit (unless one is dependent on the other).

See attached.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2007, 03:43:55 AM by mrl »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #217 on: January 24, 2007, 05:12:14 AM »
Way ahead of ya there bud! They were free too! Fets and drivers! ;D

Next I get bridge and 3055s.

--giantkiller. 8)

What are you using the 3055s for, if you don't mind my asking?

That is the power transistor 2n3055. I will have back up parts for other test. I snag samples whenever I can.

And I got that schem too.

Do you think that Bedini would blow smoke after all he's been up to at this point to falsify?
He has done too much. About the solid state ckt. Is a coil not needed? Fatbird said the inverer to the coil. So there are 2 trains of thought. I got options. Because with an inverter to the opto and radiant on the other side then this ain't tough at all. But that sounds like alot of shortcuts. ???

--giantkiller.

Here's another configuration to choose from.  I'm just emitting brain farts here.  You will have to play with the resistor values to get the bias right.

If you're going to experiment with these circuits I would get the oscillator working and not worry about the the SCR circuit (unless one is dependent on the other).

See attached.

I have this schematic too.
If I rejumper my GK4 I will have the oscillator to the coil. I see on the RC3 you added the diode at the base. I'll be at this tomorrow night.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #218 on: January 24, 2007, 10:48:07 AM »
Hey, don't build John Bedini's motor.

I have figured out why that type of motor works.
It has to do with the gap, as the aetheric capacity changes (which can by changed in a C core coil by passing a capacitor (Otis T Carr, Swiss ML and others), a diamagnetic material (Don Smith), or a magnet through the core, this causes a flow of aether to take place in the winding, however no current need flow, first I believe it's possible to wind a bifilar coil (basically a tight canceling multilayer caduceus) to stop magnetic emf induction,or a normal coil can be used and the voltage generated can be opposed by an equal EMF such a battery or rectified smooth transformer.

This makes lots of sense based on things Robert Adams said in a lecture I attended. (about having 2 emf's cancel, that's when you get the effect without current)
It also explains why Peter Lindeman said on working with John Bedini that he could get it to work more as a transformer, or more as a generator, but it worked best when neither action was taking place.
Well that's because if the to a equal they mostly cancel out, it's not the electrical flow we are really after, that is sure to slow things down.

We want the aether to move.

So with the knowledge above you can do better than the bedini motor.
Or just use an alternator!
rectify it and smooth it and if you want cancel the voltage as described.

BTW I am only here rediscovering something that has already been written about in a book called the Earth Energy by John Bigelow, in that book the same info about gaps and canceling windings were given.


As for the TPU here is my pick:


One collector coil is the output, it runs through a static magnetic field. (the static field may have a rectification effect as Hans Coler claimed making it DC)
One collector coil is connected to the feedback coil, for er feedback, if the feedback coil is so important as SM says it must be connected to an output (collector) to feed back)
One collector coil is an open circuit and freely resonates (much like a multi wave oscillator ring) this is the one the input it tuned to. (he says that it was tuned to the circumference of the collector coil, well that ONLY makes sense if at least one of then is an open circuit)

The control coils besides creating the spikes would be good to have a rotational effect and have an electric field between the collector and control coils.
This would then put it in line with Hamel the the Joe Cell and many many others as many devices have shown the aether loves to move at 90 degrees to an electric field.
There should be a wooden core as Steve Marks uses, and GK is probably right about iron.


Please use your heads:
1: Steve said vacuum tubes, not because they have great switching properties but because they have an aetheric output as has often been shown. (RE output if you prefer, or cold electricity)
2: There is a precessional force that can ONLY be created by aether moving as there is no mass moving.
3: He said the collector coil length is tuned to the device or visa versa, it is it's circumference that determines the frequency, this can ONLY happen if one of the collectors is an open circuit.
4: Why do you think he called it a feedback coil, obviously you feed the output back into it, this also helps the aether vortex.
5: Steven Marks went to the bother of using a wood frame, obviously it can work without wood as first time he used bailing wire, but wood is obviously a good idea.
6: Steel collectors ARE indicated by GK's results and SM's statments
7: The collector coils energized in a rotational manner makes lots of sense! both from an aether rotating point of view and others. (kicks adding up)

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #219 on: January 24, 2007, 11:05:42 AM »
I belive that the TPU is very similar to Alfred M. Hubbard: Coil Generator

He uses a coil configuration which apparently seems much like the TPU.
He also uses 3 different frequencies, one being very close to 6kHz.
The coil diameters are also calculated  :)

http://web.archive.org/web/20060405155758/www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm
http://www.whackster.com/energy/hubbard.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20041229201633/keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000259.htm

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #220 on: January 24, 2007, 08:21:20 PM »
@all,
Thanks for the input. I am pondering the areas of physical, electrical, & effect designs at the same time. I see the differences of the inclusion and exclusion of cores, Solid state compared to inclusion of transformers. I don't want to run off in the wrong direction but I do agree that the kicks are gotten with +12v and 0.5 amps. I think that can get better. It has too.
So I heed all instructions. It could be that some Bedini configs are true and other combos are not.

On another note I thought I would share this. It is my next frequency toy. It is way outside the box with me.
http://www.stick.com/

--giantkiller.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #221 on: January 25, 2007, 03:07:45 AM »
Very bad forum constant database error.  Forum useless.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #222 on: January 25, 2007, 04:42:34 AM »
Ok, so scope this out:
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
The quote from inside is this:
NOT CRACKPOTTY AFTER ALL
Note that this does not violate any rules of conventional physics. If we add stronger EM fields, they sum with the incoming EM plane waves and cause these radio waves to bend towards the tiny antenna, and the antenna absorbs them. This increases the antenna's EA (effective area, or effective aperture.) We can use this process to alter the coupling between the antenna and the surrounding space, but the total energy still follows the conservation law. The altered fields only change the "virtual size" or EA of the antenna.


Sound like a TPU, eh? Turbo and I had discussions on this a number of times. We both saw the the bending and the vortex field flowing into the ring.

Here's the interesting part. If we wish to receive power rather than signals, a critical issue arises.

Driving a tiny antenna with a large signal will create large currents and heat the antenna. Small antennas are inefficient when compared to half-wave dipoles. If we wish to maximize the virtual aperature of a really tiny antenna (e.g. make our 10KHz pie-plate coil act 10KM across,) we'll quickly be frustrated by wire heating. All the extra received energy will go into warming the copper. Possible solutions: use superconductor loops, or at low frequencies use the nearest equivalent to an AC-driven superconductor: a rotating permanent magnet(can you say rotating field?) or rotating capacitor plates.


I think I did this...?

He's produced kicks and has attained heat. Copy on gnosis.com from Mannix about the GK4.

Sound like more tuning, eh? So now I am thinking more controller turns to emminate more micro fields over the collectors increasing the antennea effect. More turns, Agh...
Or more loops in the coax based TPU, or lamp wire for more strands.
More controller windings can lessen the drive current. What if more windings of 30awg to lower the voltage requirement.

--giantkiller. Did I just crack this nut again? This excerpt does sound like a Bedini rendition.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #223 on: January 25, 2007, 04:33:48 PM »
No.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #224 on: January 29, 2007, 05:16:37 AM »
Gk5 wound and jumpered. 4 1/2 inch ring.
This is bifilar 16awg speaker wire, 3 layers one inside the other(concentric) of 10 turns. I took Otto's jumpering to the next level. This is from top to top, middle to middle, bottom to bottom from outside to middle to inside by 4 segments. Confused yet?
I can also jump it to 390721 transformer spec. That'll be next.
So this can be made like a triple mobius going in any layer direction or any depth direction. Looks like 108 combinations total.
Bottom line is : 4 segments of 3 concentric layers with dual runs of 41 strands each. Combinations like a Rubik's cube. I got 6 coils per segment. Total 24 coils, 984 strands.
Core is Easyflow audio 8awg, 700 strand silver coated copper, 4 turns.

This is hemi. Simple goal is bigger kicks. I really don't have to. Just to see how the Easyflow performs. Possibly get a vortex action with one of the jumper configs.
Granted, the strands are not insulated individually. This is the skin effect test also. Then on the Easylow, why is each strand silvered if they are not individually insulated? We shall see. I take chances to prove or disprove group imposed boundaries.

This one's for you Sonny. ;)

--giantkiller. 2 days left.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2007, 06:01:31 AM by giantkiller »