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giantkiller

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #120 on: January 10, 2007, 09:25:47 PM »
GK,

Here is my new TPU as close to your specs as I could.  I am not sure what no this one is, I think its TPU v7.0, but I lost count of of how many I made so its the GK version!


D.

Wire it from Otto's diagram and pump it up! Tweak the freqs and make it sing. It's pretty hard not make it work. And yes, I used 10 ohm 10watts, 2 in parallel (5 ohms) for each frequency input line.

Cool, --giantkiller.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #121 on: January 10, 2007, 10:19:22 PM »
GK

Can you get any glow from a 40W / 60W light bulb as a load on the collector coil and if so how much current are you drawing from your PSU? If no, can you run any other load from the collector? Also, what is your running current with no load?


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #122 on: January 10, 2007, 11:57:33 PM »
GK

Can you get any glow from a 40W / 60W light bulb as a load on the collector coil and if so how much current are you drawing from your PSU? If no, can you run any other load from the collector? Also, what is your running current with no load?



I have not hooked in anything to harvest the kicks fully. My direction is to implement safety, then apply tuning, I believe kick harvest fits in right here, then drive a load. The GK4 is not ready as a power source yet because it is not tuned which requires a firewall so to speak.
If I was to tune without safety I would not get the support of others in this endeavor here. They wouldn't need to me support because I would just blow myself up ahead of time. Makes sense don't it?

--giantkiller. 'I know Kung Fu'


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #123 on: January 11, 2007, 02:59:32 AM »
Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
Neo: There is no spoon?
Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #124 on: January 11, 2007, 03:55:45 AM »
GK,

I think I missed something somewhere along the line. The way you were jumping around and praising yourself, I thought that you were running your house off of the TPU unit. You mean you didn't even hook up a light bulb to see if it would glow?? I don't know about you, but I think it would be the first thing I tried. ??? ??? ??? ???

Tim

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #125 on: January 11, 2007, 04:11:53 AM »
GK,

I think I missed something somewhere along the line. The way you were jumping around and praising yourself, I thought that you were running your house off of the TPU unit. You mean you didn't even hook up a light bulb to see if it would glow?? I don't know about you, but I think it would be the first thing I tried. ??? ??? ??? ???

Tim
That level of completion is not designed in yet. The list is in a previous post. I just bought the relays for the runaway firewall and am doing the logistics of where on my boards they will go.
OBTW, because I followed orders, now I am just having fun. My level of happiness was one of immense gratitude to others.
Build one.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #126 on: January 11, 2007, 01:58:48 PM »
GK,

Terminals now finished, we are ready to rock and roll!



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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #127 on: January 11, 2007, 03:44:47 PM »
Ok, GK,

All wired and ready to be fired!


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #128 on: January 11, 2007, 05:20:04 PM »
Hi,

I've been following this interesting thread for a couple of days now.
I can't say that I have the definite answer to why the units can kick, but take a look at the attached scans from my physics book.

To me it sounds like it is "just" the wires attracting/repelling each other that causes the unit to vibrate/kick. There are no "magic" in that - unfortunately  >:(

Another thing that baffels me is that some drives the coils way too hard. If the coils are pulsed with square signals you will have a LOT of harmonic signals on the secondary side of the transformer. (Yes, you will have a magnetic coupling between the primary, secondary and all other coils within its flux lines. An ideal square signal consists of every odd harmonic you can think of, which could be the reason the coil(s) heats up)

The video is proof that electricity isn't something to be toyed with  ;D
More fun stuff at: http://ee.stlcc.info/movies/

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #129 on: January 11, 2007, 05:20:49 PM »
@Dave,
Hi,
So that is CTG7? This must the pocket version. Very, very nice. I will be interested in the specs diff based upon your size change(3"?) with iron core. This will show important results!
Great job, Dave!



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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #130 on: January 11, 2007, 05:23:51 PM »
This site gets wacky during posting sometimes :D



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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #131 on: January 11, 2007, 06:49:09 PM »
Here is a better ring driver circuit I call a cascade buck booster, it works on the principal that a coil or inductance will accept current slower than a capacitor. Buck boosters or DC-DC converters can be up to 95% efficient in stepping up DC voltage. As well this is a recycler circuit, you will notice forward current is always driven to the right, upon charging C2 at high voltage it returns to the battery through D3-L3. This is the correct way to design circuits, it is a simple process-step up voltage all through the process and return to source.

Here is the process
-C1,C2 charge to 12V
-J1 closes then opens quickly, this produces a large current flow through L1 initially, when J1 opens the Bemf raises the voltage determined by the duty cycle of J1,this moves through D1 to C1 and charging C1 to a higher voltage, this is a conventional buck booster.
- However, the Bemf from L1 will charge C1 faster than the current can move through L2, so C1 charges then pushes the current through L2 after a slight delay. During this slight delay J2 is closed then opened. This creates an additive effect on L2 as it is fed from C1 and which then pulls from V1 through L1. clear as mud! It gets worse.
- this is a cascade partially forced resonant system, meaning there is natural resonance between (L1-C1-L2), (C1-L2-C2), (L2-C2-L3) in that order, but working voltage and duty cycle are determined by the duration of J1 and J2 and the spacing between there cycles.
- So we have a circuit to pulse L1-L3 with fast pulse high voltage spikes from a low voltage source(V1 @ 12volts), as well all current is moving in a forward direction(V1-L1-D1-C1-L2-D2-C2-D3-L3-V1) a loop.
- The scope shot shows what happens when J1 is opened then closed-then J2 is opened then closed, this cycle repeating. Working voltage in the system is determined by the delay in time between J1 and J2 cycling.

I use DC-DC converters or Buck boosters on everything I build, Transformers are old news, so give this try and you will see higher efficiency with minimal components. It should be obvious you can generate very high voltages at high frequency so be careful.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #132 on: January 11, 2007, 07:09:23 PM »
These are cool. I use them too.

Also,

Thoughts Are Things

I hold it true that thoughts are things;
They?re endowed with bodies
and breath and wings:
And that we send them forth to fill
The world with good results, or ill.
That which we call our secret thought
Speeds forth to earth?s remotest spot,
Leaving its blessings or its woes
Like tracks behind it as it goes.
We build our future, thought by thought,
For good or ill, yet know it not.
Yet so the universe was wrought.
Thought is another name for fate;
Choose then thy destiny and wait,
For love brings love and hate brings hate.
Henry Van Dyke

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #133 on: January 12, 2007, 04:59:08 PM »

To me it sounds like it is "just" the wires attracting/repelling each other that causes the unit to vibrate/kick. There are no "magic" in that - unfortunately  >:(


You probably have not read that JM believes the TPU interacts with the magnetic field of the earth.  The principle is the anomolous surge of current in a conductor when a switch is switched on.  The extra current is supposed to come from the earth's magnetic field.  If that is so and multiple "kicks" can be induced and collected then that is where the "magic" comes from.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #134 on: January 12, 2007, 05:15:04 PM »

To me it sounds like it is "just" the wires attracting/repelling each other that causes the unit to vibrate/kick. There are no "magic" in that - unfortunately  >:(


You probably have not read that JM believes the TPU interacts with the magnetic field of the earth.  The principle is the anomolous surge of current in a conductor when a switch is switched on.  The extra current is supposed to come from the earth's magnetic field.  If that is so and multiple "kicks" can be induced and collected then that is where the "magic" comes from.

Do you believe this current is due to the earths field and is not normal inrush current?  We have been over this many times but generally the answer is that its inrush current caused by normal circumstances?

If the earths field can cause an extra current to flow, then surely all it does is help electrons flow from the source faster than normal and if so, it will deplete a battery faster, so there is there anything free?

Are you able to show us or tells us a demonstration to show there is extra current for free from the earths field interaction?!

Steven Mark has mentioned this interaction since the beginning.  So far only a couple of references have been found about it, but generally the "kick" has been a mechanical movement due to the earths field interacting with the wire, no extra current.  Any references you can provide would be great.


Thanks,

Dave.