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Offline bolt

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2340 on: September 12, 2007, 04:11:10 AM »
When Steven Mark says you need to be something of an RF and audio engineer you wont believe just how right he is. I just added another 5% to knowledge base tonight including the precise mechanism for the magnet.  His recon on Tesla experiments is just spot on too. Read SM notes again do your homework im up to 90% on the theory side of this now.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2341 on: September 12, 2007, 01:18:51 PM »
bolt,
      it would be good if you could post a summary document of your conclusions so far, you seem to be doing great on the theory side, it's difficult to collate it all from the posts what with the additional noise.  :(

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2342 on: September 12, 2007, 04:14:06 PM »
I rather not just lay down my cards on the table but im happy to discuss whatever someone is suspecting is happening then i will give my reasons as to why it might or might not work. This way produces a healthy debate rather then just taking it without the effort. I still have about 5% that i don't know yet on the power conversion but im satisfied on the production of precursor and collection of this energy.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2342 on: September 12, 2007, 04:14:06 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2343 on: September 12, 2007, 04:49:53 PM »
Apparently around 2012 the earth magnetism will reach zero point. Mmmm interesting maybe the TPU wont work that year so better hurry.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2344 on: September 12, 2007, 04:58:46 PM »
@bolt then i can spark many of thoughts on how it all works and i have no idea weather they are right or wrong but i have lots of thoughts

i think the first place to start is the pancake coil collector of lamp wire teslas bifullar pancake
i would think it is the pancake coil  because how elese would sm fit lamp wire in his tpu easly   and  i have focused on 3 of them in the past but it could be in fact 4 pancakes 2 put togather in the center as the main collector and the other 2 collectors supply each others controls i personly do not think the controls on the center colector are hooked to the other controls they make there copuliping through resonance to the center collector/controls

i think if a few of thease problems are solved we will end up with the right coil easly!!

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well i found some boster cable wire i think it should fit the purpous i also have some heave gage car audio power wire  i also have a ring wound like rebertos first or second coil wound with heavy gage speeker wire and lighter gage speeker wire controls

however im going to get some solid strand ground wire thick stuff and see what that is all about
« Last Edit: September 12, 2007, 08:38:58 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2345 on: September 12, 2007, 05:41:33 PM »
The TPU is an antenna but its a dipole in simplicity but a loop antenna electrically and practically. In addition an open dipole like one connected to your FM radio is a mainly voltage collector but a loop is mainly current collecting. So if our loop is current collecting it stands to reason that we need thick wire as we are going to be collecting current......tons of it but with little voltage.  Of course you cant have power without voltage AND current and voltage potential on it own is not power. You have seen this yourself when you put your load on to 3000 volts very little happens it may glow a tad because there is very little current. I explained earlier that the current on the collector is huge but there is little voltage.

For practical construction the resistance of the wire for the collector limits the power of the device within a given space. This is pretty standard transformer logistics as you can pretty much tell by looking a fist size toroidal will be about 100 watts. So our collector coils are thick wire 14 strand hook up wire and the control coils are 20 SWG or similar. Its also clear there are 2 ways to make a tpu. The smaller coils had control wires around the collector. By evolution of design SM could see that this what not very efficient yet easiest to construct. The main reason is impedance matching of the precursor signals without creating phase distortion.  As the size of the loop coil increases the phase will drift even between the quadrants of the coil due to the massive current involved and the resistance of the wire. This is why the design had to change.

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« Reply #2346 on: September 12, 2007, 11:02:49 PM »
Mannix why have you suspended the other thread? I cant believe you did that just because i said SM sold out for a nice sum. Do you think he did it for love? Of course not. If i decided not to go public with a design then sell it then it becomes someone elses problem to iron out the bugs and make it commercial in addition to facing the music good AND bad. The reasons why it hasn't been done is not the issue. It might range to MIB keeping the lid on to something far bigger developed off the back of the technology but one thing that makes no sense whatsoever is to part with the TPU under an agreement which we know exists for NO MONEY. Are you saying a world changing invention was parted with on a cash free promise?

My deductions on the TPU is by following some of the posts and reading SM notes and watching the videos. The conclusions i came too tick all the boxes on how the TPU might work. As an inventor i thought you were a smart cookie and way up with what facts you know and deduce those you don't know to fill in the blanks. But what you stating ticks no boxes! Can i prove it? No but SM is a very smart guy and 10 years ago cash didn't look like a problem to me unless this deal left him broke. If so what the heck went wrong?

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2347 on: September 12, 2007, 11:27:16 PM »
In the 1996 videos it looks like demonstrations way before the handover. In the environment we see Italian marble floors through the whole main floor, Louie XV furniture, 8 foot steel fence surrounding property, motorized driveway gate, shirt and tie. Smells like pre-existing money to me...
Lets not break out the trebuchets just yet and focus on the important matters other than any noise.

--giantkiller. The goal is not to win, but to keep the noise from becoming real.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2348 on: September 12, 2007, 11:46:50 PM »
What does it matter if SM sold the device or not?

Doesn't make a bit of difference.




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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2348 on: September 12, 2007, 11:46:50 PM »
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« Reply #2349 on: September 12, 2007, 11:57:53 PM »
Update to my dual frequency TPU heterodyning.
I will use a self written PC interface to connect serially to the microchip controller. The controller connects to a DAC mini board and that connects to the Jameco xr2206 sine wave generator which then connects to the TPU.

The interface will allow a beat frequency to be set and from that a dual slider to set an upper and lower distance from the center frequency.
By setting a window of frequency spread I can then use the beat frequency slider to run the whole operation through a manual sweep operation.
This is all 12bit control. I should have complete control to analyze the balancing of the windings, coil mass, input frequencies, resonancy all matched up against the earthly interface.
And through this process see exactly what frequency and coil modifications need to be made because we can't change the Earth. But we surely can change the planet and only if we work together!

--giantkiller. Tada!

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« Reply #2350 on: September 12, 2007, 11:58:26 PM »
Well according to Mannix it does because he has closed a thread over my ONE sentence. As much as the aim is to keep politics out of this thread he decided to create a decisive blow to a simple comment. Therefore politics means a lot to mannix and is not practicing what he has preached. I know that he is the one for conveying very useful information from SM to build upon but to be honest I find this quite shocking.

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« Reply #2351 on: September 13, 2007, 12:04:19 AM »
GK that looks good i think your on a home run. However, your digi control is almost certainly way over the top to how SM was doing this but least gives you a stable platform to work from. One of the things i been looking at is the number of turns for the collectors. Clearly we can only deal with fractional parts of an earth wave. I post more on this shortly.

Earth wave say at 7.5 Hz = 39972327.7333 meters so what do you propose is a workable fraction to try. 3.99 meters? Perhaps 39.97 meters on a larger TPU if you have space. BTW you really should use the ferrite ring core to inject the sines into you coils.
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2352 on: September 13, 2007, 12:23:56 AM »
GK that looks good i think your on a home run. However, your digi control is almost certainly way over the top to how SM was doing this but least gives you a stable platform to work from. One of the things i been looking at is the number of turns for the collectors. Clearly we can only deal with fractional parts of an earth wave. I post more on this shortly.

Earth wave say at 7.5 Hz = 39972327.7333 meters so what do you propose is a workable fraction to try. 3.99 meters?

Over the top is true but I at least want to see where I am at when things take off. Could be the last thing I see... :o

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« Reply #2353 on: September 13, 2007, 12:38:11 AM »
The way SM controlled this was a free running osc tuned roughly to 7.0 to 8.0 as a sweep then it was phased locked to the actual 7.53452 once it appeared. I since found this mag freq is rather wobbly day to day.  However, you can only do this when you worked out the coils and controls otherwise force feeding is good for now. It will need to be accurate to at least 0.01 Hz. Later you need to make an AGC circuit too. If your lucky you will notice a burning smell on the coils, if unlucky.........well your mum can tell us instead. LOL

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2354 on: September 13, 2007, 12:48:44 AM »
Don't forget your ferrite cores for each coil injection and you need magnets!

 

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