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synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2020, 02:59:58 PM »
There should be a diagonal slash between the schematic lines for variable uf capacitor. Placing a fixed uf rated capacitor at that location in the circuit would be worthless! Only by fine tuning LC tank resonance in micro farads from this tiny specially designed capacitor tuner can the higher voltages be achieved!

Jeg

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2020, 03:01:16 PM »
   Jeg:   Do you guys have a picture or video of what you are trying to replicate? Or, your version of it?
   Is this circuit being discussed here supposed to be  OU, or self runner?
    NickZ

Hi Nick
No. We don't suppose anything yet. Personally i was very amazed of the fact that the inventor works KW loads with just a simple inverter circuit and i am trying to replicate his performance. After that, we can talk about what it is! ;)


Jeg

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2020, 03:02:16 PM »
There should be a diagonal slash between the schematic lines for variable uf capacitor. Placing a fixed uf rated capacitor at that location in the circuit would be worthless! Only by fine tuning LC tank micro farads can the higher voltages be achieved!
His capacitor is fixed. You can see it in the pictures.

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2020, 03:07:00 PM »
His capacitor is fixed. You can see it in the pictures.


The inventor refers to tuning the capacitance. How would he go about that?

Jeg

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2020, 03:11:46 PM »

The inventor refers to tuning the capacitance. How would he go about that?

You know how. The difficult way. Adding more and more capacitance until to reach resonance.

Check my video for a quick reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgST8y5xakE

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2020, 03:17:48 PM »
Fantastic build! Can you spot the tiny cap in this photo? Just maybe you could squeak a few extra volts out of it with a small adjustment advantage there? 1300 watts is awesome. It would take a 2 horsepower gasoline motor to generate that kind of power!

Jeg

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2020, 03:24:33 PM »
Fantastic build! Can you spot the tiny cap in this photo?
The two horizontal small caps are in the primary side. 0,47uF each. Total c=94nF
The big one which stands vertical is the 8000V/22nF and it resonates in series with the 28T and the output trans.

ps. guys i have to go at work. See u later :)

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2020, 04:26:08 PM »
The addition of a high voltage trimmer capacitor in parralell with the 8000V capacitor would allow for finer tuning to higher "Q" and consequently higher voltage. Results are already awesome!

I bet the Chinese inventor burned a trimmer cap out fishing for high "Q" then replaced it with the two additional 0.47uf resonators. You may need to start over to find the correct combination.

Merely a few centimeters difference in coil wire length can offset the LC "Q" enough to reqire an adjustment in the picofarad range. Fine tuning can double the tank voltage!

This is like getting real power from VARS. Phase angle Voodoo? I wonder if power would rise to meet the load if you put the reciprocal saw to work?

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2020, 09:24:36 PM »
JLN boiled water with a hot plate sheerly with induction between two bifilar pancake coils with no wire connection between the primary and the output coil. The Chinese invention uses 4 coils with induction between the primary and the output coils too.

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2020, 09:26:29 PM »
I think the ground is acting as an antenna and the power is broadcast. Stiffler's Slayer Tesla coil will illuminate LEDS from the ground like Lidmotor demonstrated. The power is probably running the saw backwards.

magpwr

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2020, 06:49:06 AM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jtKnXeJ0VEg


AG
This is the Device in thread tittle above !
Or is that something else ?
Hi,
I have assume you guys already know that youtube can do translation of Russian,Chinese and etc video with English subtitles provided you duplicate the video and give youtube money for a good technical translation.
My Mandarin  studied in school outside of China never taught technical,components,computer parts definition in Chinese.It is just one of the 4 languages i acquired.  :D

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2020, 10:59:53 AM »
The Dielectric field is powering the loads. JEG's illuminated bulb should stay lit submerged in water!
Tesla's Hairpin circuit plays the same trick capacitively. Master Ivo's setup amounts to basically the same thing.
The power is not traveling through the wires as current but through the capacitive shell as voltage!

synchro1

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2020, 12:53:16 PM »
The challenge for JEG is to try and run his Black and Decker jig saw underwater!

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2020, 01:11:17 PM »
The addition of a high voltage trimmer capacitor in parralell with the 8000V capacitor would allow for finer tuning to higher "Q" and consequently higher voltage. Results are already awesome!

I bet the Chinese inventor burned a trimmer cap out fishing for high "Q" then replaced it with the two additional 0.47uf resonators. You may need to start over to find the correct combination.

Merely a few centimeters difference in coil wire length can offset the LC "Q" enough to reqire an adjustment in the picofarad range. Fine tuning can double the tank voltage!

This is like getting real power from VARS. Phase angle Voodoo? I wonder if power would rise to meet the load if you put the reciprocal saw to work?

Hi Synchro
The Chineese eng. use two caps of 0,047uF (not 0,47uF as i wrote above) in parallel with his ZVS primaries, total input capacity of 94nF/2000V. The in series cap is of 22nF/8000v capacity. In my case, by using a 100nF at the input, it rings at 110KHz. I needed a 10nF-12nF capacitor at the resonant circuit to tune. I was thinking to match the impedances between the separate circuits by using Don Smith's nomograph. (I attach it below). But the Chineese seems that he didn't bother with that. Nevertheless he feeds successively a 2KW load running it at 198-200Volts!!! So according to what i see on my bench, he might has a secret ingredient which is hidden!!??

The fine tuning is off of the table for me. Each load you add, changes the resonant point of the tank circuit! If i was to match the impedances by using the nomograph, i would have to go down to 30-35KHz to meet a 30-50 ohm impedance which suggests a load of about 1.5KW. But clearly this is not the point. The capacitors he uses suggest an impedance of about 100-150 ohm. Something doesn't fit here. So everything point out that the Chineese uses a separate technique to raise his voltage across the tank circuit. Time will show. :)

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Re: Chinese Oscillator and MOS FET Driver, Hardware experiment
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2020, 01:42:10 PM »
I think the frequency can be easily varied by the 2000v0.094uF.