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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2007, 03:03:01 AM »
Thanks for the PDF,
I am in this moment at a Win98 PC, where the
Windows Wordviewer is not working and
I did not want to install OpenOffice.

Ossie,
it seems you are exactly doing, what Newman did
with several mechanical switches in series.
You need the mechanical switching for the effect to take
place.
The neon bulb parallel to the transistor also helps to get
the spark converted to glow discharge region, where
we have partial negative resistance.
If you put in series with the coil an incandescent bulb,
you probably can light it by these Current spikes and RF bursts.

If you go to:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newmantech/files/new%20Newman%20ASF%20movies/

and watch the 5th, 6th 7th and 8th video
there, you can see, how bright the incandescent bulb in series
with Newman?s motor coil lights up, due to the RF bursts of his
mechanical commutator.

Also these RF bursts can destroy the sulfate of old batteries and
can make them come to live again, so I guess Ossie your REAC is
a good idea to use.
After a while these batteries might be indeed again pretty good
in health.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2007, 03:03:01 AM »

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2007, 11:06:40 AM »
Hi Ossi Callanan, thanks for your open source device and text.
im trying circuit with 12V charged battery, 6V dead battery, reed switch,
coil (2x12V transformer coil), small neon,2n3055 but ,
reed swtich normally open and  transistor doesnt work first time.
when small speaker magnet approching, neon lamp short time blinks.
how can i solve this problem, continiuos ossillation how can be do?
your reed switch diffirent? or my transformer coil isnt enought? is your coil wire 0.5mm?

Stefan,
I look yahoo grup files but they are very small size with media player asf files.
in there,  i see your  charger circuit with 8W fluoresant tube, self running vibrator relay switch.can i use normal relay or another component instead of vibrator switch?

thanks,


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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2007, 12:02:20 PM »
hi ppls,

Maybe instead of the reed switch a trigger coil can be used. with a relay? 
This should allow the switching at the same time as the reed sw. but with better contacts.

just wrap the trigger coil around the end of the existing coils core, and test the number of windings to get the correct trigger voltage.

Ar

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2007, 01:24:53 PM »
I really think anyone who is interested in what Ossie has published should first try to replicate Ossie's work. After that, you can modify anything you want. Read what has said so far carefully and take note before building.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2007, 03:49:32 PM »
Test photos.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2007, 07:56:00 PM by gezgin »

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2007, 04:04:12 PM »
test coil2(hissing) photo,with speaker magnet.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2007, 12:26:47 PM »
Hi Ossi Callanan, thanks for your open source device and text.
im trying circuit with 12V charged battery, 6V dead battery, reed switch,
coil (2x12V transformer coil), small neon,2n3055 but ,
reed swtich normally open and  transistor doesnt work first time.
when small speaker magnet approching, neon lamp short time blinks.
how can i solve this problem, continiuos ossillation how can be do?
your reed switch diffirent? or my transformer coil isnt enought? is your coil wire 0.5mm?

Stefan,
I look yahoo grup files but they are very small size with media player asf files.
in there,  i see your  charger circuit with 8W fluoresant tube, self running vibrator relay switch.can i use normal relay or another component instead of vibrator switch?

thanks,



Hi Gezgin and all.
this circuit is really good, if you use a mechanical
switch for contact.
Please try it with a motor that turns a
 "commutator" with copper-graphite
or copper-chrome
or graphite-magnesium contacts.

This way you can speed up or speed down the speed
of the motor and thus change the contact speed of this "switch" (commutator).

The mechanical switching and the right spark at this switch is
very important for to get a good battery recharging, so
all in all more power is produced, as would come out of the battery.

It is basically the Joseph Newman effect.
It is beneficial, if you put 2 switches in series, so the
spark will be distributed over 2 spark gaps.
This will enhance the effect even some more.

you can also try cerium donated Tungsten rods ( welding supply)
and graphite
for the electrode contacts,
so you also have the Morray negative resistor effect,
amplifying the RF bursts from the spark.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2007, 12:26:47 PM »
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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2007, 12:40:47 PM »
Hi,
 
I thought the following scope shots may convey more detail for what I understand and believe is a requirement for any radiant energy generator to be doing.
 
The first trace below are the pulses as the magnet passes the coil. These are from my reed switched motors. There are two passes shown here. This trace is across the charging battery.

The second trace below is one magnet pass but with the time base zoomed in.

As you can see, there are about 40 pulses per magnet pass.
 
The reed arrangement in the circuit I have shown you, does this quite easily and effectively.
 
For every one of these 40 pulses, when the coil is switched off there is an "Radiant Energy Event" (REE).
 
The more REEs you can make happen for the least amount of current drawn by your circuit, motor, charger, the more energy the circuit appears to draw out of the vacuum to produce COPs greater than one.
 
The REE causes what appears to be some sort of vacuum interaction at every impedance change in a series flow from the source battery's positive to the source battery's negative or in reverse of such a description as the case may be. At each series impedance change, if it is a node, then another branch is formed but at a lower energy state. This lower energy state branch will have the same series flow of the REE and vacuum interactions at is impedance changes and will flow through it's own series loop. Thus we can have a hierarchy of series loops of which our REEs will transcend from higher to lower energy states.
 
There is much more. The main thing, once you have the switching in your circuit right, is to know how to tap the vacuum interactions that occur at each impedance change when the REE flows through it.
 
Regards,
 
Ossie Callanan


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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2007, 11:12:49 PM »
Hi everyone,

First many thanks to Ossie for sharing his experience, I'm about to build this as soon as I have the parts and later I'll try to do some variations. So far, as I know (understand) Tesla's theory about radiant energy, this setup makes a lot more sense to me than other setups.
But there is still a whole lot more to explore...


The neon bulb parallel to the transistor also helps to get
the spark converted to glow discharge region, where
we have partial negative resistance.


A question though: what are the ratings for the neon bulb? That in condition of 12VDC power supply.
More specificaly, how could be known where the negative resistance region is and how could I choose the right bulb function of peak to peak back EMF voltage? (I couldn't find neon bulb characteristics)

Thanks again.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2007, 11:12:49 PM »
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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2007, 03:35:42 PM »
Ossie wrote: -

"With an input of 50 volts, the motor draws only 100ma. So that is an input power of exactly 5 watts. Now here's the clincher! Charging a battery that reads 10.8 volts whilst connected and charging from this motor, the motor is sending 400ma into the this battery! That is an output of 4.32 watts!!! So that means that this motor is only using 680 milliwatts but still manages to run at 1200 RPM!!! This is a fairly heavy rotor with large bearing and considerable magnetic drag. That is an amazing amount of torque for just 680 milliwatts don't you think?"


You will be well aware from all that's been posted on the Bedini Monopole and SG forums that it's not possible to measure the complex current from a motor into a battery with ordinary analogue or digital meters. It's therefore very misleading to say that you have 400mA of charging current from an input of 100mA.  Compounding this problem in obtaining reliable figures for calculating power or the coeficient of performance - COP, is that the input current is also pulsing and this adds to the difficulty and the reason why you only appear to have an input current of 100mA, where in fact if you were to accurately measure this you would find that its a lot higher than this.  To see this practically, connect your system to a cheap 3 Amp bench supply with the current limit set at max and listen to the overload relay switching in and out. Waveform area mapping is one method that can be used to get accurate measurements when V & I are not in phase but this is quite an involved process. This misunderstanding of power in complex waveforms seems to be a recurring theme in the  'free energy' forums.

You will also no doubt be aware of how well batteries are de-sulfated when connected to motors / energisers that charge batteries using Bedini methods. I suggest from my experience that your REAC, irrespective of size and condition when first connected, will re-condition very quickly and start sharing the load from your motor / energiser. I think Stefan raised this point earlier.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2007, 06:42:39 PM »
http://www.stormloader.com/members/pese/fe/messung.html

text expanded to metering  battery

 to motors

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« Last Edit: January 23, 2007, 10:33:20 PM by pese »

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2007, 06:58:09 PM »
I agree with Gustav. We should not let wishful thinking cause the interpretation of results falsely.
We maybe trying to compare apples with oranges but not the less, the performance must be measured accurately. Only in this way we can ensure replication and improvements to any system.

AM

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2007, 12:47:31 PM »
I don't know if I should start my own thread here, but I'm replicating on the windows version of the bendini cole motor, as per this website:- http://www.icehouse.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

Test Bedini/Cole Motor no battery.

http://www.icehouse.net/john34/bedinicolemotor.mpg

Here's a sneak peak of what ive done so far, also ive been compiling notes on construction, and i will post this when finished, If anyone likes to help with how the cct maybe setup, this would help immensely.

Dom

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2007, 04:50:11 PM »
Please see the attached document. Any comments. questions welcomed. But only nice ones responded to.

Regards,

Ossie Callanan


Thanks again Ossie for sharing this in the forum, I replicated the setup and here are my observations/comments.

At this point I think there is no need for a picture of my system, esssentially being the same are yours (with only one reed switch). The only missing part from setup is the REAC. Not that is not important, but for now I had to understand how is generated and tapped the radiant energy.

First I have to explain myself why I said this setup makes more sense to me concerning radiant energy:
- *Potentialy* it has the spark gap used by Tesla and Ed Gray: the reed contacts
- using a magnet at the spark gap like Tesla to ensure flow in one direction (as explained Dr. Lindemann in "The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity")
- it has a radiant energy colector in direct proximity, capable to produce work (the coil)
- the only missing elements were the charged capacitor used to store energy for the spark and the high voltage.

Now about the "hissing" Ossie heard, I got the same efect, but it was not the coil, instead there were the reed contacts vibrating making that noise. That actualy increased my interest, because I had a mechanism now to restart spark cycles, without a rotary spark plugs.
Later, I also used the additional magnet like Ossie did. The number of pulses increased, the "hissing" was also louder, so more energy to charge the batery.
Because I used only one coil and 4 magnets, I got somehow frustrated about wasting time between 2 magnets. The I thought I could get rid of the flywheel and instead I attached to the reed switch the original magnet the came along (it was that kind of shelf device used to detect when a door is open). Bingo! after removing the flywheel and slight rearangement of the reed agaist the coil, I got the "hissing" which this time it was continous. I charged few batteries (6V and 12 V) with minimum power in 45-60 min each.

The explanation I gave to myself is that actualy, the magnetic field generated by solenoid nullify the magnetic field of perm. magnet, so the switch goes off => then perm. magnet acts again and turns on the reed, current flows againt in the coil, and so on.

Now comes my question: how do I know when a battery is FULLY charged? This is mainly because the need to estimate the COP. I sucessfully charged 2 bat from 1 bat and the discharge time for all 3 of them was prety much the same. To avoid the BS, I would like to know if there is a way to test if a battery is charged at its FULL capacity (joules)

Another important question is if there is radiant energy at all involved here. If anyone can explain, I would much appreciate. I'm a bit blind to what Teasla found obvious and I'm affraid I still don't think out of the box.

Of course this doesn't exclude the later need for switching the bateries (which will require also spending more energy). Also I lack at this time the extra batteries for REAC tests. But it's just a start.

In the end a bit of bitter news. I have an identical second pair reed/magnet and it seems the reed is not as sensitive as the first. Not "hissing" what so ever, although testing with ohmmeter and magnet shows the device is functional. I'm curious if anyone can add their experience.

I'll try to remake the circuit using a regular relay (self oscilating), instead of reed switch, However the questions remain and without a carefull consideration for the test results, no real progress can be achieved.

Thanks,

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2007, 11:05:33 AM »
I tried reed switch device with different coils but transistor & coil heating,
connected to  output small bulb(10W/220V) and get 35 V to 80 V DC with 0.47microF
condenser.
I think 12 V fully charger battery voltage must be max. 13.8 V, barbosi.
 didnt try second reed switch yet.

mrd10 can you post bedini motor details.

 

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