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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2007, 12:48:13 PM »
barbosi,
You have done some very interesting work.
How about this idea for testing your system:
take 2 similar batteries.
Discharge both fully.
Charge battery 1 for 30 minutes (or what ever you feel right). Discharge in to a known resistive load and record the results(result1).
Again, charge battery 1 for 30 minutes.
Charge battery 2 with battery 1 for 30 minutes.
Discharge each in to a known resistive load and record the results(result2).
If your second set of results show higher o/p than your first set, you have definitely made it.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2007, 12:48:13 PM »

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2007, 05:49:13 PM »
A prety detailed site related to batteries, describing the *traditional* way to charging found at:
http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/carfaq9.htm
Not very helpfull because we charge with pulses, not DC.

I tried reed switch device with different coils but transistor & coil heating,
...

The same here when I tried to remove also the magnet from configuration, and I used the NC contacts of reed. The coil was pretty much on DC, except for the moments the EMF determined reed to open contacts. Hence I switched back to NO contacts with the magnet. I know the circuits seem equivalent, but the results were different. The weirdness of these results make me think we are on something that at the moment I don't fully understand.
Also, related to the setup using the NC contacts, I tried to replace reed&mag with a relay, NC contacts in series with the coil => slef vibrating device to triger the current in the big coil. Although I used a miniature relay, the results were far worst than I expected.

...
How about this idea for testing your system:
take 2 similar batteries.
Discharge both fully.
Charge battery 1 for 30 minutes (or what ever you feel right). Discharge in to a known resistive load and record the results(result1).
Again, charge battery 1 for 30 minutes.
Charge battery 2 with battery 1 for 30 minutes.
Discharge each in to a known resistive load and record the results(result2).
If your second set of results show higher o/p than your first set, you have definitely made it.
...

The problem I have is I have VERY limited resources, so I try to take the most from what I have (no, I don't ask for money, instead I encourage everyone to make it's own system and post the test results along with personal observations)

I have a 12v battery and two 6V battery from an UPS power suply. The most relevant test I ran and is close to your test sugestion was:

2x6V batteries, 1x55w automotive light bulb as discharge load and the system.
1. fully discharged both batteries: aprox 30 min. down to 3V each measured with the load applied.
2. charged battery *1* to 6.12V
3. With battery *1* as power source, I charged battery *2* to 6.12V
4. fully discharged battery *2* to 3V measured with load applied.
5. using the same battery *1* (not recharged meanwhile) I  I charged battery *2* to 6.02V
6. at the end, battery *1* had 4.9V (brief measurement with the load applied)

Conclusion: I charged 2 batteries (one after another) using energy from one battery. Is this OU? I don't know. That was the reason to ask if I could measure the joules stored in battery, as a more accurate energy measurement.

If I recall, while I was playing with the 12V battery, the measurements at the power supply used to charge it were: 13VDC@37mA, coil and transistor cold at room temperature.

I'm curious if anyone else could duplicate experiment. Chances are the reed are different, coils are different, batteries are different. In these conditions can we find a pattern that would help understand:
1. if we have radian energy
2. what is the source (the magnet? sparks? both? other?)
3. how is captured (reed contacts in the glass enclosure? coil windings? both? other?)
4. improvents are the next...?...

Thanks.

Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2007, 08:01:54 PM »
2x6V batteries, 1x55w automotive light bulb as discharge load and the system.
1. fully discharged both batteries: aprox 30 min. down to 3V each measured with the load applied.
2. charged battery *1* to 6.12V
3. With battery *1* as power source, I charged battery *2* to 6.12V
4. fully discharged battery *2* to 3V measured with load applied.
5. using the same battery *1* (not recharged meanwhile) I  I charged battery *2* to 6.02V
6. at the end, battery *1* had 4.9V (brief measurement with the load applied)

Just to make sure, you need to charge the batteries based on a fixed time rather than relying on reaching 6.12 volts. Yes rely on voltage on discharging the batteries.

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AM

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2007, 08:01:54 PM »
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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2007, 06:41:01 PM »
Dear Ossie Callanan,

I am currently playing with a Bedini SG which looks for the time being to have a very small FE, lost in the general bigger energy flows of the setup. So no clear overunity at the moment.

(Just as description of my SG: It is a 26" wheel with 18 magnets, coil with 2x900 turns, batteries of 12V/7.2Ah. I tried initially 2N3055 but after a first burn (I disconnected by hasard the second batery and I do not have a neon-bulb) I introduced an BUX85 transistor, which has U=450 V and not the SG works with it too.)
With this setup I have got from one pulse / passing magnet up to 3-4 pulses per magnet.

In order to understand better in which direction I have to improve, I am digging now on my own.

In this respect, I read recently your document  "A_working_radiant_free_energy_system", which is very interesting and gives hints not mentioned elsewhere.

After reading it, I have two questions regarding the described approach:

1. It appears to me that it might be possible to drive the base of the transistor (2N3055 or else) with a square wave of 1 - 2 kHz from a 555 circuit, during the magnet passage (which can be validated with a reed or Hall circuit on the opposite part of the wheel). In this way I get also the 20-50 pulses per passing magnet. Should this be an alternate solution for your reed-contact mounted on the coil ?

2. In another Bedini circuit (the one with three windings), a capacitor is charged with the pulses from the third winding and from time to time the capacitor is discharged into the charging battery. Can such capacitor (for instance a 15000 microfarad/100 V  or more) act also as "Radiant accumulator-converter" (instead of your reccomended dead batteries which I do not have) ?
I ask because this one is also a dipole, but I do not know if it is sufficient.

Thank you in advance for your advice and best regards.

Bartolomeu01

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2007, 09:27:13 PM »
Go solid state. Some big clues here in John's circuit.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1998.0;attach=5877;image

Note the thyristor used to do the switching fed back to 555.

Incidentally the door reed switch used in alarm circuits often have the glass type reed inside them anyway just small one.

Rather then producing a single shot you are making a mechanical oscillator based on reed will operate much faster than a relay due to its small size. The relay may switch after the RE has already been and gone thats why is don't work.  Because the RE is produced in a time frame that can not be used to trigger a switching circuit it must be done by pure timing. This means trial and error of the mark space ratio so that when sufficient time has passed you switch on the triac to "see" if there is  RE to be collected. Do this hundreds of times as the magnet is passing and you should be able to collect even more than what a reed switch can do with better results. There is one tiny reason why this wont work though. The reed maybe producing a tiny spark and this stops electron flow dead in it tracks as Tesla did he tried many things to stop the flow as fast as possible. If your circuit needs a spark then solid state might not work.

Surely one must get close to producing a solid state design without mechanical wheels. What about a coil with a fixed magnet on the end then do the switching an see what happens?. As you said in your MS word notes all your coils hiss when reed and magnet is in the right place. Sounds like one hell of a good RF jammer though i bet your wipe out all the TV's and radios for miles ;)

One thing i cant understand though why using 2n3055's in these old SSG type designs which are mostly well over 15 years old when surely modern power mosfets switch harder faster and easier without input current should show dramatic improvements. Having said that the 555 is almost 40 years old now! Crikey where does the time go? :)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2007, 10:09:45 PM by bolt »

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
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Offline bolt

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2007, 02:50:14 AM »
I like to see this done with an earth battery. If the circuit needs a dipole we give it a very big one. It will also take the old batteries out of the equation that might be recovering. A copper tube and iron tube should work fine. I cant remember which way round they go but should also line up north and south if you have space. If this makes things look worse then leave the south pole in and make the north pole a small antenna instead. The most serious problem with antenna version is your spark gap turns this into a nasty transmitter.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2007, 11:44:06 PM »
Hi

I also think mosfets would work beter, but all knew igbt's or mosfest come with a freewhel diode.this shorts out all radiant. I'v heard that first mosfets didn't have diodes, i'd like to experiment with them but havent found any yet.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2009, 11:52:29 AM »
Hello there, I am new to Overunity forums.

Did somebody reproduce this device?

@Ossie: did you finally discover if this was working?

I need some info because I would like to build up one, but I will not start if somebody has already checked that it was not working or that the schematics were wrong

Thanks

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2009, 05:07:33 PM »
Hi

I also think mosfets would work beter, but all knew igbt's or mosfest come with a freewhel diode.this shorts out all radiant. I'v heard that first mosfets didn't have diodes, i'd like to experiment with them but havent found any yet.

Static Electricity == Radiant energy

MOSFET's also used to be very sensitive to destruction by static
electricity, MOSFET's have very high impedance and low leakage
that makes high voltage at low currents destructive.... This also
tends to be why modem digital instruments go haywire when
connected to Bedini machines. And also why Bedini machines
seldom contain capacitors as WVDC cannot be exceeded, even
marginally, without damaging them...Ultimately things do make
sense, even if overunity.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2009, 05:30:58 PM »
barbosi said:
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...That was the reason to ask if I could measure the joules stored in battery, as a more accurate energy measurement. ...
From my experience in photovoltaic renewable energy research, there a relative problem in determining that:

When two lead acid batteries are discharged, one faster than the other, the slower one discharged will show more storage capacity than the other.

Other types of batteries doing the same thing?
I don't know.  I haven't studied that aspect.
Lead acid types are widely available and commonly used in renewable energy systems.

--Lee

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2009, 09:08:58 AM »
Is anybody still interested about the TOPIC of this thread?

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2009, 03:36:35 PM »
I've found a simple but effective improvement on Ossie's circuit and this can also be used on any Bedini system.

Basically it charges both batteries( input battery and output battery )  in the same time while running.

See the picture in the attachment!

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2009, 11:04:42 AM »
John Bedini stated somewhere,this is not good for batteries ;to charge them in the same time when consuming power from them...this will destroy the batteries

Also in http://www.fight-4-truth.com/Schematics.html  in front of Image 5  (SG)
you can red: Shawnee charged the primary battery with the generating coil directly, I think, which is the reason she had to change the battery every so often, which is the battery brake-down-result of discharging and charging a battery at the same time.


I've found a simple but effective improvement on Ossie's circuit and this can also be used on any Bedini system.

Basically it charges both batteries( input battery and output battery )  in the same time while running.

See the picture in the attachment!

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2009, 03:36:12 PM »
John Bedini stated somewhere,this is not good for batteries ;to charge them in the same time when consuming power from them...this will destroy the batteries
The problem is thatthe driving battery is deleivering regular electricity whereas the charging
battery is receiving radiant - cold - electricity. They don't mix.

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Re: A Working Radiant Free Energy System
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2009, 01:41:20 AM »
Paul-R said:
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The problem is thatthe driving battery is deleivering regular electricity whereas the charging
battery is receiving radiant - cold - electricity. They don't mix.
Three questions?
Why does cold electricity mess up ordinary batteries?
and,
Can a battery be designed to accept it?
or,
Can cold electricity be used in some way to charge an ordinary battery anyway?

--Lee

 

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