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Author Topic: Капанадзе  (Read 70454 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2020, 03:29:22 PM »
Hi guys
Itsu very nice to see you here, i hope you can help on this!

Guys the driver is giving 50 or 100Hz, by modulation. The high frequency component is at Mhz. So i guess that his complex driver is an RF amplifier actually. If we could find the correct type of Bunk's driver and its circuit we could get an idea of how he modified it. Or else, what are we doing here all those years! We can make our own drivers!!!  :)

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« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2020, 03:43:04 PM »
The old versions ballast had no security features when the light bulb was missing.
I think it was the first modification to make the system work all the time.
The second modification may refer to the pulse width for the coil.
Maybe the voltage at the output.

help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg

Offline Void

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« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2020, 04:17:48 PM »
Jeg: Before we can attempt to make our own driver, we would need to be clear on what
type of driver output waveform we are aiming for.  If Mr. Bunk has not explained this or
shown the driver output waveform on a scope, then we would be going at it blind, which
is not good at all. :)

r2fpl: Thanks for the video link. I will watch that video when I get a chance. Looks good.


 


Offline partzman

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2020, 04:59:07 PM »
The old versions ballast had no security features when the light bulb was missing.
I think it was the first modification to make the system work all the time.
The second modification may refer to the pulse width for the coil.
Maybe the voltage at the output.

help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg

One small detail missing from the video analysis [unless I missed it] is that the inductor driving the bases of the bipolar transistors is saturating under normal operating conditions.  This is what sets the operating frequency for the series resonant output.

I am very familiar with this type of circuit as I hold a patent [US4,914,558] on this technology which was stolen and incorporated in every CFL coming from China.  Many variations can be built from this basic concept and is not limited to bipolar switches by  any means.

Regards,
Pm

Offline Jeg

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« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2020, 05:56:17 PM »
Jeg: Before we can attempt to make our own driver, we would need to be clear on what
type of driver output waveform we are aiming for.  If Mr. Bunk has not explained this or
shown the driver output waveform on a scope, then we would be going at it blind, which
is not good at all. :)

Hi Void
I have seen this again and indeed blindly replicating is the worst thing an experimenter can do. But it is not a new idea. Bringing voltage in phase with current across a load, is something that many people have talked about. And if this is the case then the range of frequencies that involve is related to what we already know about Tesla coils, sfr, 1/4 etc.

Regards

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2020, 06:13:45 PM »
"This demo is done with FLY POWER. It is colliding STATIC and DC and forcing their collision to a common ground.
Static = HV electrostatic potential with virtually no current.
DC = Lower voltage with some actual current".  https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao?t=24

Offline NickZ

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« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2020, 06:18:04 PM »
     Guys:
   I don't know if it has been mentioned, but, there is NO Earth ground connection needed nor used on  the single tube model, nor on the bigger double tube device. Which also means, that there is NO extra current coming into the device from any earth ground connection. And so, if it works as shown, any extra juice would have to come from the surrounding ambient.
   Remember that Tesla had the first patent on a UFO craft. Which also probably needed no Earth ground connection, to operate.
This is very important, as any mobil devices as well as vehicles can be run off of this type of device, without it needing to be directly grounded by a wired connection. I feel that this is a step in the right direction. And probably does work similar, if not the same as the Roma device, which has also not been heard from, lately.


   NickZ   
   PS. Thanks for the new link, itsu... good to see you here.

Offline Void

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« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2020, 06:54:22 PM »
Hi Void
I have seen this again and indeed blindly replicating is the worst thing an experimenter can do. But it is not a new idea. Bringing voltage in phase with current across a load, is something that many people have talked about. And if this is the case then the range of frequencies that involve is related to what we already know about Tesla coils, sfr, 1/4 etc.
Regards

Hi Jeg. Unless Mr. Bunk provides details about what his output waveform from the
modified electronic ballast driver looks like, then experimenters may have no choice
but to just try different waveforms and frequencies. That usually doesn't go too well however. :)

I am skeptical about this device because really it is just a long air core coil driving the bucking coils
output coil, but I am trying to keep an open mind. Maybe there is some key concept that
we would need to know which makes magic happen. Just the right driver output frequency, or just
the right type of driver output waveform, or both? If Mr. Bunk does not want to show or explain such details,
then it seems very tough to try to replicate. Just my own opinion.

Nick: Yes, it doesn't appear to use any earth ground connection.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2020, 09:46:13 PM by Void »

Offline Void

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« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2020, 08:40:28 PM »
This is how I see how Mr. Bunk's earlier (and simpler) 'All In One' circuit is connected together.
This appears to be the heart of the Bunk 'Monster' circuit. If you can't get this simpler circuit arrangement
producing a COP > 1, then it seems doubtful you will get the more complicated 'Monster' circuit working.
If you see something different in how the 'All In One' circuit is connected, let me know.

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2020, 10:43:28 PM »
Don't think about ballast

Offline Void

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« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2020, 10:53:03 PM »
Don't think about ballast

Hello niyazzi. Where does that come from? Does that info come from Bunk?
You think the long L1 coil has two separate windings which are capacitively coupled
in series where the two coil windings join together?

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #86 on: October 26, 2020, 11:17:59 PM »

Offline Void

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« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2020, 11:49:28 PM »
I took a look at some recent comments from Mr. Bunk and Mr. Guglodrom
on the Russian forum where they are posting about this device, and it reminded me
of Ruslan in the past talking on and on in comments and videos, but never providing the 
critical technical details required for a serious replication. If those two guys want to provide the
critical technical details, then just do so already. If they don't want to provide the critical technical details,
then just say so up front and stop blowing endless hot air.  They seem to be just seeking attention. ;D
I will go back to the sidelines now. This does not look very promising to me so far. It seems just too many
unknowns and too much hot air from Mr. Bunk and Mr. Guglodrom.  :D
Jeg and justawatt, you seem to have a lot more patience than me regarding this kind of thing.

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #88 on: October 27, 2020, 08:30:59 AM »
The mr/Bunk was here in the sites in person a couple of years ago. unfortunately I cannot find it.
There were such pictures in his pictures.

And more .. Does it look like anything?

Offline Jeg

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #89 on: October 27, 2020, 10:19:38 AM »

I am skeptical about this device because really it is just a long air core coil driving the bucking coils 

Hi Void
When i had first looked at it i wondered the same. But then, i realized that they don't back at all. The reason is that they step on different nodal points over the long tesla coils and when current is induced to one of the thick coils, the other is inducing voltage. They would be bucking coils only if they were inducing current the same time at the opposite direction.

Niyazzi
I was looking for this capacitor in all of his videos and i couldn't find even one clue that it is there. But it is just a lonely cap. If it needs to be there we will find it out. I find it more possible that the two tesla coils are not connected between each other. Free oscillating like every Tesla coil, will generate huge preasures to take the advantage of.

NdaCloudzzz
Thank you sir for the direction that you are trying to show. It looks very close to what happens here.

Jeg and justawatt, you seem to have a lot more patience than me regarding this kind of thing.

hahaha After all those years, patience grew up by itself!!!! ;D