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Offline Grumage

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #135 on: October 10, 2020, 02:26:00 PM »
Good morning PM.


Nice clear test.  I do have one question.  What is your load?  If the left coil is the current sensing coil then what is the load it is connected to?


Thanks,
Carroll

Hi Carroll.

I'm seeing a short " Yellow jumper " shorting the coil with the Current probe attached to it.

Cheers Graham.

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #136 on: October 10, 2020, 02:36:22 PM »
Hi Graham,


 I see 3 ends to some yellow jumpers so I am not sure what is connected to what.  My eyesight is not too good right now.  I have got to have cataract surgery soon.  Thanks for your answer.


Take care,
Carroll

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #137 on: October 10, 2020, 03:26:26 PM »
If you're getting cataract surgery, astaxanthin is a must, in fact, it's a must in any case.

Get natural not synthetic.

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Offline partzman

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #138 on: October 10, 2020, 03:41:40 PM »
Good morning PM.


Nice clear test.  I do have one question.  What is your load?  If the left coil is the current sensing coil then what is the load it is connected to?


Thanks,
Carroll

Carroll,

The only load to the center coil is the shorted coil on the left and it's dc resistance.  The coil on the right is of course open with scope probe load of 10M ohm and 3.9pf.

Regards,

Pm

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #139 on: October 10, 2020, 04:12:04 PM »
Here is a scope pix of the 3 coil layout with a 2 pulse input to see the phasing from a zero electromagnetic start rather than continuous running periodically.

The specs on the coils are as follows- L1,L2,L3 = 746uH.  L1+L2 = 1.509mH, L1-L2 = 1.385mH, therefore the coupling K = .0415 between adjacent coils as pictured. 

The formulae used to calculate the k factor are M=((Lseries+)-(Lseries-))/4 and k=M/(L1*L2)^.5  .

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Pm

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #140 on: October 10, 2020, 04:19:42 PM »
If you're getting cataract surgery, astaxanthin is a must, in fact, it's a must in any case.

Get natural not synthetic.


Thanks for the suggestion.  I did check the eye health complex multivitamin I am taking and that ingredient is in there.  I also looked it up and it appears to be another one of the amazing natural sources for good health.  I discovered that curcumin (the extract from turmeric) has some amazing healing powers also.  It completely cleared up the psoriasis on my hands that 2 different dermatologists had tried for 5 years to clear up without any success.  In six weeks the curcumin completely cleared up the psoriasis.


Thanks again,
Carroll

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #141 on: October 10, 2020, 04:44:20 PM »
Welcome. Yes, curcumin is great too.

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Offline partzman

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #142 on: October 10, 2020, 04:52:19 PM »
OTOH, here is a test done with ferrite cores.  In the layout, two 3019 pot cores with no gap are enclosing a primary coil as a standard configuration.  Then on the outside of each end of this assembly,  an additional 3019 half core is placed with no gap that encloses a secondary coil.  This assembly is clamped together tightly. 

So we have one primary and two secondaries that are separated electrically but are connected by the electromagnetic change in permeability in the common ferrite walls between the outside of the primary core and each outer half core containing the secondaries.

One secondary is shorted with a current probe to measure current while the opposite end secondary is connected to a 10k ohm load resister to dampen the self resonance of the secondary inductance with the 3.9pf scope probe capacitance.

In the scope pix we have CH1(yel) is the gate pulse driving the mosfet switch connected to the primary, CH3(pnk) is the output voltage across the 10k load resistor, and CH4(grn) is the shorted secondary current.  As one can see, the voltage and current are in phase.

The primary is purposely driven into moderate saturation to see the resulting effects on the phase.

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Pm

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #143 on: October 10, 2020, 05:05:23 PM »
Someone bring in Heins, reader will get false impression that current can't be delayed which is utter nonsense.

Message to Heins sent.

Besides in his video i linked in his bi toroid, when he put load to the secondary IV remained 90°  apart.

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #144 on: October 10, 2020, 05:51:18 PM »
Someone bring in Heins, reader will get false impression that current can't be delayed which is utter nonsense.

Message to Heins sent.

Besides in his video i linked in his bi toroid, when he put load to the secondary IV remained 90°  apart.

Nix,

OK, I watched the Heins BiT video and his device is a reactive to real power converter with apparent gain.  As has been stated before, this is a transformer assembly with the primary source being considered which is not the criteria that Verpies specified.  Only the secondary or secondaries can be measured for parameters.

I could use one of my reactive to real converters for an example that operates at higher frequencies with infinite OU and input phase angles of 105 degrees but that is not in the true spirit of this discussion.

Experimental evidence is just that and speaks very loudly IMO.  One can simply accept it or replicate it to prove or disprove the evidence.

Regards,
Pm

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #145 on: October 10, 2020, 05:59:33 PM »
That current starts instantly in high inductance coil at high frequency induced by any means is too far out to accept based on few limited experiments.

Let's bring in someone expert in high inductance, high frequency, sc experts too, let's hear them.

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #146 on: October 10, 2020, 06:07:11 PM »
I could use one of my reactive to real converters for an example that operates at higher frequencies with infinite OU and input phase angles of 105 degrees but that is not in the true spirit of this discussion.
OU doesn't exist, never existed and will never exist or maybe  by OU you understand something else?
Wesley

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #147 on: October 10, 2020, 06:17:46 PM »
I bet if i asked this at yahoo answers, quora and stackexchange, they would all agree that in high inductance high frequency coil there is going to be a delay.

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #148 on: October 10, 2020, 06:47:35 PM »
OU doesn't exist, never existed and will never exist or maybe  by OU you understand something else?
Wesley

Wesley, you are certainly entitled to your opinion but with all due respect I have to disagree.  Perhaps I should have defined my meaning of "OU" being more output than input and "infinite" meaning more energy is returned to the source than is consumed to produce real energy in a load.

You didn't question the technique used to perform this task but suffice it to say that the device at this point is not possible to build for technical reasons.  If you or anyone else can point the way to synthesizing sinewave frequencies in the 2-4MHz range using class D amplifier techniques so the mosfet switches used can be operated in both their normal forward conduction as well as reverse conduction, then it's a done deal.

The theory behind the gain is from the work of Arie DeGues as is best understood at this point in time.

Regards,
Pm

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Re: AC voltage from single magnetic pole
« Reply #149 on: October 10, 2020, 06:50:12 PM »
Magnet only motors prove OU in most simple and undeniable way. Few real ones on YT.

 

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