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onepower

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The Social Dilemma
« on: October 04, 2020, 11:42:49 PM »
The Social Dilemma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0
This documentary-drama hybrid explores the dangerous human impact of social networking, with tech experts sounding the alarm on their own creations.

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Expert testimony from tech whistle-blowers exposes our disturbing predicament: the services Big Tech provides-search engines, networks, instant information, etc.-are merely the candy that lures us to bite. Once we're hooked and coming back for more, the real commodity they sell is their prowess to influence and manipulate us.

This is a must watch documentary in my opinion.

It explains how we are all being fed a media stream not designed to inform us but to get us hooked on the media for advertising profits. Which explains why so many have become addicted to conspiracy theories and fake media. Some algorithm determined the best way to keep them hooked on social media was to pinpoint there weakness and feed them a media stream to enhance it...were being duped.

To make matters worse any person, corporation or country can pay to get people addicted to whatever false narrative they choose. So the true enemy here is not a person or political belief but corporations profiting from creating chaos and division as a business model.

As such the problem was never CNN or FOX news but the division they create for profit. I'm done with there nonsense and opting out.

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2020, 08:19:56 PM »
Strange... I posted this information in two forums and didn't get a single reply.

One would think the fact that the people who basically invented social media are now telling us it's being used to manipulate us for profit would be worthy of debate. Maybe the fact that Russian trolls are using social media to gerry rig democratic elections to further Communism and the downfall of western society...but not a peep.

Has anyone else noticed that whenever something of actual importance is posted it is either spammed or ignored?.

Most are quick to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon or fake news of yet another unworkable device. However any relevant or meaningful information is generally spammed or dismissed... it speaks volumes in my opinion.

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2020, 04:35:24 AM »
Ah! Comunisum is where every one is poor, Capitalism is where a small percent are rich and the rest are poor.

then there are the military war mongers who want to kill every one off so the rich get richer in Communism and Capitalism

Nothing changes and there is always some one who wants to rip your arm off and beat you with the soggy end

and its the same on here, only they don't have a FE device yet, such arrogance!

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2020, 08:02:06 PM »
onepower,  for once it looks like we might agree on something.  While I have not yet watched the video I understand and agree with what you are saying and I think it's the same message I have been trying to convey for awhile.  Personally I don't use social media at all.  A little forum use and both MSM and alternate news is as far as I go, along with some deep research from various sources at times.  There is truth out there if you dig deep enough.  [/size]


  It all goes hand in hand with the 'divide and conquer strategy'.  If there is any disagreement with what I've just said I doubt I'll be back to respond.   

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 03:39:59 AM »
Good documentary, good explanation of one of the reasons people are becoming so divided.

A must see.

    thanks for posting the link.

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2020, 06:46:44 AM »
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Good documentary, good explanation of one of the reasons people are becoming so divided.
A must see.

Many could think it's political or partisan however I think it would miss the point. We are collectively being manipulated by damn near everyone with a cause or self interest. It's kind of disturbing because it's not an advertisement, there not making an argument for or against anything but clearly have the intent to brainwash people.

It makes a person want to reexamine what we actually believe and why in my opinion... maybe were being duped?.

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2020, 11:32:33 AM »
The Social Dilemma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0
This documentary-drama hybrid explores the dangerous human impact of social networking, with tech experts sounding the alarm on their own creations.

This is a must watch documentary in my opinion.

I know, it is hard to comprehend, but try for a moment:

The entertainment industry encompasses UFOs, horror, adult entertainment, this forum, news, TV, cinema, sports, Internet and of course all books, news and videos about conspiracies like the warning of social media.

Scaring and interesting people with documentaries is part of the entertainment industry, like all the books that reveal something or warn from this or that.

The ultimate motivation of the entertainment industry is to make money by catching your attention.

The ultimate goal of the entertainment industry is to keep you entertained and occupied by trivialities in order to keep you working and consuming.

Instead of whipping and physically suppressing you (like in former times), you are mentally engaged in meaningless desires and worries.

It is also called consumerism. You consume foods, things and "food for your brain" (which is entertainment). Even the Romans knew that and celebrated "bread and circuses" for the masses, a primitive form of today's entertainment industry.

Is this very bad? I would say, it is better than whipping and physical violence to keep you in line. And every body needs food and shelter, you have to go along with somebody who can give you that. Better to be taken for a ride than physically forced.

There was progress in this world. Formerly you were brutally forced and now you are cajoled along.

All the freedom lovers should explain how they intent to keep the people in line! I am afraid, once we are free again it will be physical force all over. It is not for nothing, that it was called "the fight for survival". Nowadays you are "entertained for survival".

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2020, 12:24:38 PM »
Conrad
There is a wonderful builder who works on Rick F
Coils
His name I believe is Bruno


Will look later for his channel


Maybe he will join here and member NDA can help him


?
I am sure many here  have coils too
However Bruno has actuall Rick F products!










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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 05:41:36 PM »
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All the freedom lovers should explain how they intent to keep the people in line!

It's not rocket science, it's called the rule of law, you do the crime you do the time.

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I am afraid, once we are free again it will be physical force all over. It is not for nothing, that it was called "the fight for survival". Nowadays you are "entertained for survival".

Don't be afraid, democracy and the rule of law will always prevail because it's in our collective interests to ensure it does. Communism and dictatorships always fail because power and greed corrupts, corruption will not be tolerated thus it always comes full circle cyclically.

I'm optimistic, trump is history, putin probably won't last another term and xi jinping is creating a prosperous influential middle class which eventually will not tolerate communism. You see, this is the boomers last grasp at relevancy but very soon they will be gone and everything will change. These cycles occur as one generation disappears and is replaced by a new one every 60 years or so.

In fact our future looks bright, once were gone free or renewable energy will reign as will sustainability and social responsibility. Our children are much smarter and capable than most think.

I get why your afraid however this is the natural order of things. Your parents and grandparents were just as afraid of you and your crazy new age thinking so it all comes full circle. It is the way...



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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 03:20:28 PM »
The AT/NT -book with the Dekalog  Deka= 10 log= commandments

What and how is written ,from sociologic view,during 1649-1660 the by Oliver Cromwell leaded Commonwealth of England 'Republic'- constitution ?

the Napoleon ' egalite/Einigkeit,fraternite/Recht,Bruederlichkeit,liberte/Freiheit'- declaration/constitution
the french " communistic manifest" as social free citizen constitution
the chinese 'Red book' by Mao ( Tse-Tung)
the pan-african ' Green book' by Khaddafi

To be social we would have to go through the same world by the same language :
how many know,that by name nationalization  a Mister Albert Einstein becomes ' Albert Onestone'
and a 'Donald Trump' : Welch ein Trump,welch ein Geruempel = anglo-saxonic translation  : Junk,Garbage
                                              Donald Junk and wife Melania Junk

Praemisse : Kapitalisten zahlen immer bar ,Kommunisten leben auf Kredit !
Easy definition and clear !
Also defining capitalistic or communistic ' federal/central bank system' !

caput,capita : fascism is the mostly concentrated form of capitalism,dis-/advantage
      Each kind of Zentrum/center/con-centr-ation  is instrumentalized ' fascism' : dis-/advantage

                                    CIA,EZB/ECB, Estate-Capitale Roma,Berlin,Braslia,Beijing,........

socius,social : ever with ' both' (also ' ambo' ): positions/experience/age/stand/ sexus .....

Sincerely
                                                           

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 03:14:59 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frieden_von_Paris_%281783%29


The ratifications were exchanged on May 12, 1784.


First day of independence from the ex-british New England colonies


Article 5: The United States Congress will "strongly propose" to the state legislatures to assist British citizens who were legal owners of confiscated land with the restitution of all land, rights and possessions (never fulfilled)




https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase


The area of ​​the former Louisiana colony , which was west of the Mississippi River, was sold. This area is much larger than today's state of Louisiana : In addition to parts of today's Louisiana, it also includes the states of Arkansas , Missouri , Iowa , Oklahoma , Kansas and Nebraska as well as parts of Minnesota , North Dakota , South Dakota , Texas, New Mexico , Colorado , Wyoming , Montana, plus the outskirts of the Canadian provinces of Manitoba , Saskatchewan and Alberta .

Jefferson disliked this idea because buying Louisiana from France would mean France would have a right to be in Louisiana.




Opposition in the US


In the US, the federalists were strictly against buying the territory. They were in favor of close ties with Britain rather than Napoleon. In their opinion, the purchase was not constitutional and the US would have paid a lot of money just to declare war on Spain .


How much from this territory was in official spanisch crown ownership ?





 Hehlerei/stealing by the french like by the actual Krim-problem Ucraine/Russia cause 1954 "donation"


 
Ukrainian People's Republic
In March 1917, the Zentralna Rada (Central Soviet, Central Council) was formed as a decision-making body in the Ukrainian part of the Russian Empire. From April she took on legislative and administrative functions.



On November 7 (20) it proclaimed the autonomous Ukrainian People's Republic in the federal new Soviet Russia. In the subsequent elections, the Bolsheviks received 25% and the other parties 75% of the vote. On January 18, 1918, the Central Rada declared the state independence of the Ukrainian People's Republic.

 
The Ukraine was never before independent,free from Russia ! Not during Czarism ,not during USSR era !


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://correctiv.org/aktuelles/korruption/system-putin/2015/07/30/putins-fruehe-jahre/


  Seite/Page  23                            Befoerderung  ;D  vom Oberstleutnant zum Hauptmann
                                                 
                                                   Promotion from lieutenant colonel to captain

                                                                                  Oberleutnant ?  :D

                       Klasse : hiermit befoerdern wir jeden Generalmajor zum Oberstabsfeldwebel  ::) 


                                               Bissl degradierend erscheinend ! Aber konform ! ;D



https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Imperialismus_als_h%C3%B6chstes_Stadium_des_Kapitalismus


Marx zu Lenin zu Galbraith : https://www.amazon.de/moderne-Industriegesellschaft-John-Kenneth-Galbraith/dp/B0000BR3Y9


Laender/Territorien : wie unwichtig !


Humane Koerper : wie laestig !




                                                  digitalen/neuronalen Imperialism  : sublim (in-)doktrinieren


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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2021, 11:09:25 AM »
Marx - Lenin - Galbraith (- v.Weizsaecker)






https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Dmitrijewitsch_Kondratjew
From observing time series of economic indicators over 140 years (such as prices, interest rates, wages, securities prices and foreign trade flows in England, France and the USA), Kondratiev concluded in 1926 that the economic development of the industrialized countries was in about fifty to sixty years of long waves of ups and downs. Groundbreaking “basic innovations” (e.g. the invention of the steam engine, the automobile or widespread use of the railway network or electricity) would turn an economic downturn into a recovery that would lead to a renewed upswing. The Kondratiev cycles are therefore measured against the basic innovation that spreads over decades in the real market.

Capitalism is therefore not - according to the Marxist doctrine - doomed to final ruin, but would recover again in a renewed upswing phase of such a cycle.



Kontradjef studied also Marx his scientifical-economical works .


Pareto/Marx

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/145722153.pdf




Walras/Marx

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/economics-and-other-branches-in-the-shade-of-the-oak-tree/walras-marx-and-the-philosophy-of-history/2EAF0F7484E433793E24D413AE4E024C


 Kondratiev concluded in 1926  : the statistical numbers since 1926-2021 has to been corrected

cause : 1. the end from currency/gold- ratio standart since 1944,Bretton Woods conference


           2. the non-restricitive use from given credit-limits,as demanded by laws


           effect :


           3.  "worth uncovered ´money´ creates worth uncovered ´money´ numbers"  statistics correction,  2021 material-covered worth






           solution :


           international currencies comparison by weight :


           1 physical gram Euro is more/less 1 physical gram US/Sinapore/AUS /.... $ worth               by same material comparison


           balance-value = book-value



           application from OECD/B.I.Z. economy standart " progressive amortization quotes" for all creditable goods :


                                                building sector :


                                       capital consumptive private sector



                                                first   4 years    7%      ea.
                                                next  6 years    5%      ea.
                                                next  6 years    2%      ea.
                                                next 24 years   1,25%  ea.


                                               in     40 years   100% ,but during first 16 years 70% amortization cause common economy worth lost


                                               commercial buildings
 
                                               during ten years 10% each




            the official book-value is for the banking/finance sector the legal credit max. worth-definition base


           no digital/crypto currencies ever worth-covered,only obligation/debit/bond -function : no creditable


         




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schumpeter


Schumpeter concluded the Kontradjef waves theorem in his work.

" .....  Other outstanding students of Schumpeter's include the economists Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen and Hyman Minsky and John Kenneth Galbraith and former chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan.[60] Future Nobel Laureate Robert Solow was his student at Harvard, and he expanded on Schumpeter's theory.[61] 


...... "


Also included Hayek/Keynes dispute about "  deficit spending"
( before 1944 = with fixed gold price standart /past 1944  without saved worth standart)


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deficit_spending


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller

Worked " futuristic visions" out




Probably tools for "futuric ultra-learning"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Flanagan neurophone
http://www.genilax.com/en/  Theta waves




https://www.google.com/search?q=4te+technische+revolution&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=4te+technische+revolution&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30.10073j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8






Latin :  gens  to gen-o-zid


Latin : mens to men-o-zid




2/3rd less service by humans G7( estate administration and private economy)
1/2    less worker in industry




The lockdown-situation with poor traffic and less consumer in the cities we have as "future society vision" since more than ten years called


                                                             4.th technical (human/-oid) evolution




2007/2008 there had been a chance for change,but the politicians decided wrong,so we will enter "cold society war" situation !


                                                  common mobbing politics in parliaments and at home








                the official book-value is for the banking/finance sector the legal credit max. worth-definition base


               All finance entities which worked against social law limits :


               4th technical evolution publicated  preview : banc-o-zid : 90% less ! Morbid sector !










                                     totally 1,5 billions earth human habitants limitation is a good social "green" target




                                     Reduction from actually 8 billions : peacefully,by "ethical and green " mobbing












Actually : JP Morgan and the 12 Superleague teams


              https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insolvenzquote bancruptcy rate
               
              Amount of the quota in Germany
In an investigation of over 15,000 insolvency proceedings in North Rhine-Westphalia, which were completed by the end of 2008, it was found that in two thirds of the proceedings the distributable amount was so low that the creditors received nothing after deducting the costs. The rate for the other proceedings was 5.4%. [1]


The Federal Statistical Office reports an average rate of 6.1% for corporate insolvencies that ended in 2018, the proceedings of which were opened seven years earlier - in 2011 [2].


              What is an over-debted sports association in liquidation units worth ?


              https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://laptrinhx.com/de-de/fast-10-millionen-euro-schulden-ponomarevs-vergiftetes-erbe-beim-kfc-dAWzXE7/amp/


              Apparently, the creditors would only benefit minimally from the dissolution of Spielbetriebs-GmbH. Kruth calculates that only around           
                                  0.8 percent of the claims could be satisfied.




              When the (Ex-) Super League associations will declare bancruptcy - financial fair play rules ! - we will know their liquid worth !








                                                liquidations and "real market worth " insider-view spending


                                                                   real imperialsm in action



 


https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/price-book    which value if insolvency :


         
Tesla Price/Book Ratio Historical Data 


Date                        Stock Price                            Book Value per Share                          Price to Book Rate
2020-12-31                $705.67                                      $24.04                                               $29.36




during insolvency quote calculation the book-value the base : 24.04 US$ x an average rate of 6.1% for corporate insolvencies

                                                                                   =      1,47 US$


                                $705,57                          divided           1,47 US$   =        junky and  funny  lever factor   480



                                               480 uncovered " share market dollars" = 1 liquid federal US Dollar


 


The Brandenburger Gigafactory financed by Ex-Fiat/Chrysler now Stellants and the actual Tesla book-wins only by estatal subsidiaries,

                                                                        MEHR SCHEIN ALS SEIN




                                 
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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2021, 12:45:10 AM »
What was the problem with Lehman Bros. "bonds-packages" ?


prime rate quote           x 60% x  60 % !


sub-prime rate quote !  x 60%  x 20 % !


junk rate !       



When somebody buys with credit who owns -by law- the credit-object ? Difference between object-holder/user and -owner !


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Berlin-kauft-Stromnetz-von-Vattenfall-article22517887.html


Estatal junk (bonds) finance ! 2021 !


Germany : The town-estate becomes legal "Besitzer",not legal "Eigentuemer" ! Sicherheitsvorbehalt als Glaeubigerschutz  !


Written law difference example : each tenant is ever "Besitzer/possessor" from his habitation ,but not "Eigentuemer/owner" !


Each house-/home-holder - by credit financed -is ever only house-/home-possessor,never house-/home-owner !


After the E.C.U.-crash thanks Mr.Soros and the Lehman Bros. collaps the housing sector market prices decreased 90% to real market values !


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://mosereien.org/immobilienfinanzierung-bei-spahns/


4 200 000  ?


3 000 000 "Kaufwert" ,als "Barpreis"-Erfahrung ?
2 400 000 Kreditbemessungsgrundlage,Gebrauchtobjekt : 60%
1 920 000 Kreditbeleihungswert aus 2. Rang 20% der Bemessung= 480 000,1. Rang 60% der Bemessung = 1 440 000




Glaeubigerschutz,dementsprechend Risiko-Diskontierungen, und Amtsgericht-Liquidationen :


 1.Termin bis 70%,2. Termin bis 50%,3.Termin bis 30%,nach gesetztem Zeitpunkt zu jedem Preis


Wenn der "Kaufwert" um 30% faellt = 1.Termin -Limit  : 2 100 000    leichte  2.Rang-Glaeubiger-Verluste
                                     50%         = 2.Termin -Limit  : 1 500 000    fast      2.Rang-Glaeubiger Totalverlust
                                     70%         = 3.Termin -Limit  :    900 000    2.Rang-Glaeubiger Totalverlust,1.Rang-Glaeubiger Verluste


dazu als Angebot/Nachfrage Marktsituations- und Objektwerterfassung :
https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/81/3/483/1884880


30% Preisverfall entspricht  10% physischem Ueberfluess
50%                                  15%
70%                                  18%




Physisch ,         bei 45qm pro Kopf Ausstattung und falscher Konsum-Finanzierung : min. 25% Ueberfluss


66,5qm/4 capita=  16,7qm soziale pro Kopf Ausstattung ,erfasst als CIAM Kongress -Ergebnis


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congr%C3%A8s_Internationaux_d%E2%80%99Architecture_Moderne

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_von_Athen_(CIAM)




revidierte Fassung :


In den ersten Jahrzehnten des 21. Jahrhunderts waren in den meisten großen Städten die Lebensbedingungen für die Menschen zunehmend unerträglich geworden. Infolge der Poebelverdummung stieg die Verschmutzung der Umwelt, die Arbeitsbedingungen waren ertraeglich, die Löhne angemessen, in den engen, meist mittelalterlichen Stadtkernen herrschte eine quälende Überbevölkerung und breite Bevölkerungsschichten leben unter menschlich art-gerechten Bedingungen.





            Wieviel Verluste will dieses "Ehepaar"  wohl verdienen ? Eine Person im Staatsamt und solch ein a-soziales Gebaren !                                 
           

                                                  Sparkassen waren auch mal serioeser und "muendel-sicherer" !


Scheinbar in Baelde ein deutscher "Savings&Loans"-Gruppe-Finanzkollaps in Aussicht,wenn dieses obige Beispiel heutige Norm darstellt !

www.immopool.de  : vielleicht fuer Interessenten bald Berlin-Villen zum Schnaeppchenpreis oder Zwangsversteigerungen,s.a. ARGETRA


                               Oder aus Sparkassen-Konkurs/Liquidationen




https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Eine-Mahlzeit-wird-fuer-viele-unbezahlbar-article22515281.html

Africa ,


but also in the USA   https://whyhunger.org/just-the-facts/ and https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/24/hunger-surges-as-americans-reel-from-pandemics-effects
 
At least 35 million people faced hunger in the US before Covid-19. That figure includes more than 10 million children, according to Feeding America. But in 2020, more than 50 million might struggle with hunger. Among them: 17 million children.



and world-wide   https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/world-hunger-facts-statistics










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Re: The Social Dilemma
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2021, 12:20:03 PM »

Don't be afraid, democracy and the rule of law will always prevail because it's in our collective interests to ensure it does. Communism and dictatorships always fail because power and greed corrupts, corruption will not be tolerated thus it always comes full circle cyclically.


You say that to the Chinese people.