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Author Topic: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM  (Read 80917 times)

Floor

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #180 on: December 18, 2021, 05:11:58 AM »
I think the TinMan has got one here / maybe ?

           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQtJTodw3QQ

                  If he only had a heart  ;)
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                       but seriously
          This other video gives some explination of its workings ..
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTCj5E8Si4

« Last Edit: December 18, 2021, 02:08:50 PM by Floor »

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #181 on: December 18, 2021, 07:05:38 PM »
Floor
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I think the TinMan has got one here / maybe ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQtJTodw3QQ

I built the same setup as Tinman around 10 years ago when testing the Wesley Gary motor. http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm
Note the date, Gary figured all this stuff out in 1879 so it's not new by any means.

I tested the effect shown in the video and in fact the metal plate between the magnets can be incredibly thin down to 0.5mm and still prevent magnetic repulsion. Not only small magnets as shown in the video but 1" square N52's with a 260lb repulsion force. At which point I started having stability issues with my setup not being able to handle the forces involved. So I can confirm the effect in the video is real just as shown.

Where most people go wrong on the Gary device is not following directions. Note that in the patents he used laminate structures, laminate horseshoe magnets and laminate plates. Another off the wall aspect was that many inventors tuned there devices with sound. As they didn't have DSO's at the time they would use a coil and/or speaker to "listen" for the field variations. In which case I can verify laminate magnets make a pulsing sound where one magnet does not. It's actually quite intuitive using sound as a measure versus a DMM which is basically useless. I have a probe coil and opamp/speaker on the bench which is handy. I like using light and sound for feedback when possible and there's something personal and pleasing about it.

Take care
AC




 

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #182 on: December 18, 2021, 07:56:39 PM »
AC


from
https://overunity.com/18988/ressurected-tinman-new-invention/msg562205/#msg562205

observation

The magnet which is interior to the rim of the ferrous fly wheel
is more interactive with the fly wheel than is the exterior magnet.

Best wishes
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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #183 on: December 18, 2021, 09:29:03 PM »
ONE VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS DESIGN IS THE MOMENTUM STORED KINETIC ENERGY
IN THE FLYWHEEL ONCE IN MOTION. MY MIND IS GOING CRAZY WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT FLYWHEEL
BASE DESIGN. I HAVE THE TIME BUT NO MONEY AND NO EASILY AVAILABLE MATERIAL.


Floor

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #184 on: December 18, 2021, 09:45:27 PM »
Agree / Important perhaps...

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Where most people go wrong on the Gary device is not following directions.
Note that in the patents he used laminate structures, laminate horseshoe magnets and
laminate plates.

The magnets will produce electic currents, magnetic force and drag on a ferrous fly
wheel unless laminations are used.

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #185 on: December 19, 2021, 02:14:18 AM »
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The magnets will produce electic currents, magnetic force and drag on a ferrous fly
wheel unless laminations are used.

Not really and in order to do something different we need to think differently and on another level...

When we add magnets in series they add in strength but a gap introduces a time delay between cause and effect between the working elements. So thing A acts on thing B but B is connected to thing C, D, E, F and G with a given time delay between each element as a gap. What is the purpose of said gap, what is the effect on thing A versus thing C through G?. We now have not two variables but seven introducing over two orders of magnitude of possible combinations of effects.

This is why people like Steven Marks implied we should do our worst, mix it up and try adding any number of things together for no other reason than simply seeing what happens. I mean, if what were doing obviously isn't working then what harm could it do?.

My first working FE device was absurd, it shouldn't have worked and in my mind there was no way it could. However I was curious because I had no idea what the result would be. I expected nothing but experiments seldom turn out exactly as we expect and in this my case it turned out to be something. As they say...

“Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get” , Forrest Gump

Regards
AC

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #186 on: December 19, 2021, 06:18:17 AM »
AC

          Point and counter point...
                    and no objection on my part.

                            best wishes
                                       floor

P.S.
   unless one reads the lable on the box first.


Floor

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #187 on: December 19, 2021, 06:27:13 AM »
@ SEYCHELLES

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ONE VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS DESIGN IS THE MOMENTUM STORED KINETIC ENERGY
IN THE FLYWHEEL

             Agreement..
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..
@ All readers
 Let's see where his next measurments take it, with out and before    any modifications.
         

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #188 on: December 19, 2021, 06:44:18 PM »

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #189 on: December 19, 2021, 07:22:02 PM »

sm0ky2

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #190 on: December 19, 2021, 07:25:28 PM »
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqFFdvheW1U


Awesome! I have a replica that TK made
I just made a label for it with your name
So i know what it is




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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #191 on: December 19, 2021, 07:56:08 PM »
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Yup
https://youtu.be/rvDmJ_SfKao

Interesting video, did you know almost all successful inventors were good artists and had a tendency to sketch in 3D just as you have?. It goes towards the notion of them viewing the world around them as it is always acting within a volume in three dimensions. I do the same thing which really helps to understand things better.

The effect Wesley Gary found is very subtle and he claimed the working element could move less than 1mm and still produce the effect. So we could imagine the element moving within a small region where the field transitions from one polarity to the other... a neutral zone of sorts.

Logically it makes sense, most people utilize the magnetic poles which are always unipolar while other regions have neither polarity. It goes towards the notion expressed by Walter Russell that one state/polarity cannot transition into another state/polarity without becoming neither state or zero in the process. Logically the law is irrefutable, if some thing transitioned from one state to another then in the transition it must have became neither state or zero otherwise it couldn't make the transition.

Thus there must be zero points within the field which Wesley Gary referred to. You won't find this in a textbook and some experimentation is required. I used an magnetometer to map the fields and a simple magnetic polarity probe doesn't have the required resolution to find the transition. A piece of wire 1" long attached to the end of a wooden stick forming a "T" works well.

We should also understand the difficulty involved. It took Wesley Gary years to find this effect then more years to understand it well enough to capitalize on the effect. However modern tools like magnetic field and force sensors make the process much easier.

Regards
AC




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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #192 on: December 20, 2021, 11:06:23 AM »
I did not know that. It was actually difficult for me to draw
a 3-d object sitting on a 2-d plane, drawn on a 2-d plane….
Felt like i was doing some MC Escher thing….
Took a few tries to make it look correct.


There are 3 neutral planes, perpendicular to the magnetic origin.
One in each of the 3 dimensions, as i try to show in the video.


It follows reason that a field occupying a larger physical space,
would have a larger neutral zone.


However, experimenters report success neutralizing rods of about
1/8 - 1/16 inch thickness,
Through a range of about the same (pole to pole through the null)


Any method can be used to vibrate the rod up and down
The whole of the Wesley Device was a mechanical crankbox designed to
do just that.


19-inch horseshoe on the way from Amazon


Kind of excited to play with this. I can’t believe i have never seen this before
From the 1870’s!!!!
The way he describes the effect explains quite a few anomalies that have popped up
over the years.


I have verified the theory by physical experiments
everything except the power generation part.
But thats as simple as winding a coil and making it oscillate

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #193 on: December 20, 2021, 11:10:09 AM »
It would be nice to have electronic gauss meters etc….
But this can be done using a compass or magnetized needle on a string
Or even with a few iron filings

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Re: Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #194 on: December 21, 2021, 04:52:14 AM »
AN OLD CHRISTMAS PRESENT, TO PONDER UPON.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm1LmkmYkjQ