I have asked a few questions about the belief in a flat earth and all but one of them have been ignored.  When I asked about the benefits of believing in a flat earth the answer I got if I understand it correctly is that it gives the believer a sense of superiority to believe in something they think has been suppressed.  If I misunderstood that then please explain what other benefits there are to believing in a flat earth.


My other questions that have been ignored more than once were these:


How do flat earth believers explain the changing seasons?  And how do they explain that if you are above the arctic circle in the summer time you can actually watch the sun go completely around you in a 24 period?  And how does the sun not shine at all above the arctic circle in the winter time?  And how do you explain the tides if the ocean is flat as you claim?


And here are a couple of more questions for you to consider.  Looking at the moon phases it is clear from the shadow on the moon that the moon is a sphere.  So if the moon is a sphere then why should we believe the earth is not also?  And my last question that really has me confused is what possible physical mechanism is at work that would allow the sun to be suspended above the earth and move around over the earth?  Is there a giant standing over the earth with the sun hanging from a chain or rope while he slowly swings it around over the earth.


Please guys learn some basic physics before posting nonsense.  Any ham radio operator can tell you about the ionosphere which allows long distance communications.  And we can tell you about the sunspot cycles that affect the ionosphere.  And we can also tell you about tropospheric ducting and inversion layers that even allow sometimes long range TV reception. 


I will make a prediction now that neither of you that are claiming the earth is flat will answer any of these questions.  They will be ignored again because you don't have any answers.  Since you can't answer actual questions about the physics of how a flat earth could work I won't be posting anymore to this thread because it is a waste of time.  I only posted this post in order for others to see that the idea of a flat earth does not hold up to scientific study.


Respectfully,
Carroll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaYSyQg-WjU

Find and Observe the OrangeStrap from below, in the movie above?
 

Johan,

Don't follow what you expect to be seen, and a 5 hour video loaded with straps is more than I can bear to watch in its entirety to figure it out.

Can you please post a link to the point in the video to look for that strap at/from?

BUT in the few minutes I scanned through watching for orange straps I did spot a few things that go against "basic physics" first of which is at the very beginning with the woman commenting about the "visible moisture in the connector". That's strange because vacuum is what removes water very quickly on earth from any A/C system on earth. Should it not have vanished near instantly in the extreme vacuum of "space"?

Also the size of the "globe earth" showing here at  https://youtu.be/VaYSyQg-WjU?t=8719 - with that ever changing radius of the earth
'below" in the background visually trips the BULLSHIT ALARM. I am sure there is probably much more wrong: besides a fish eye lens.

No way is earth going show up that small (that tight a radius) from the altitude the ISS is supposed to be at: 220 - 240 miles.

Does anybody else here including the "too smart" also see this as a problem?

 

I think Johan55 (pathetic as this is) really doesn't know if the earth is flat or not. 

                                     That's his own fault.

Temporary Visitor / Vizzini is just a common troll.

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I think Johan55 (pathetic as this is) really doesn't know if the earth is flat or not. 

                                     That's his own fault.

Temporary Visitor / Vizzini is just a common troll.

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A common troll, yes, but an ignorant one as well. Wasn't it Eratosthenese who actually calculated the diameter of the Earth in 250 BC ?

What was first : theory or practise ?

LIFE
Life Set
Set theory
Set Practise


Mind

Mind Set:

Mind Set Practise

Mind Set Theory


What is SET SYSTEMATICS ?  Comparison as Method

Ancient: modern melodics ~ What is life,teacher/Rabbi/father/mother/.....,don't hurt me,don't hurt me anymore

Contra : Pink Floyd,The Wall : we do not need more education,we do not need more thought controle,no dark ....

                                No " dark sarcasm' but ' shiny sarcasm' ?
       
     Only classroom,dining room at home,in bedroom,in public : smiley  ? tristely  ?
             Wet or dry tear drops ?
 
Modern Future :

                                      WHAT IS LIFE,K.I.,don't hurt me,...... WHAT IS LIFE,A.I.,don't hurt me,......
                                                Mind Set is life              Or         Life is Mind  Set

K.I. = A.I. lingual transforme ,in arts&kinds movie scene ~ Max Headroom  Neutral Yury ,irony incorporated

       
           My personally feel point,has not to be common view !
   



Scientist = Artist&Kindist !   Science : question&answer about ART ? ARTS ? & KIND ? KINDS ?
         science result + 'ethic commission' evaluation :             

  superb, very good,good,neutral,bad,very bad,worriest

Decision : forbidden ,the proliferation,to complex     


                          allowed,the proliferation,simplex
                          feeled and taken for grant : Okay !
                          It can be later ever become forbidden ! Only an Act !









The GAVE,die GABE : 'EIGEN'-/'AUTO'- SENSE    or 'COMMON'-SENSE


                                      'EIGEN'-tools or 'COMMON'-tools

     
             Life and SYNTAX :  theory/practise = 1/1=1 ?!  Ever ( oh ,my go(o),boring life) !?
                   Never "other side" pro-Voke/Voz/Voice 'sticheln':

                                                         I AM  ALIFE~AWAKE ,YOU TOO ?


                   Life Construction error ? Universum Construction error ?

                      Ruhe-Stoerer ! Rad-Au(tsch:tut weh !)-Macher
                   
                                             Scientifical theorist ?
   
Noeh, (un- : partial view)kindely 'Set applyer' ~ Science-Maths terr..,No !,worrier : HORRORIST


Set Logics = in Deutsch (angewandte) Mengenlehre: to very complicated for pupils/students

Mengenlehre : Analytics,Statistics,Stochastic,........  ALL-IN-ONE = Set

After entrance to 'school curriculum/Lehrplan' in the 70',
e-/in-ducating personal results experience,the decision:Take it,Set-theory/practise Logics, AWAY from the intelligence in-ducating curriculum,too much Stress !
Childs wants entertainment,not 'sture Bueffelei' !

Madonna : Girls yust .......
'Mondominus' : Boys ...........

70' entry Microsoft Basics ( concurrence : Apple: DTP language) and some higher sophisticated
 ' sensual language' producer/creator !

I.T + Set System = Informatics + Applicator

The MEN MACHINE,The MACHINE MEN

Kreuzweg : Mission,quo vadis ? Humanity ? Complex or Simplex ?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Make thinking us all to professional,offical Title-leased, Dr.phil.~ profession 'THINKER ?
Is a Dr.phil. a ' know-it-all'=D.octo.r-is in philo-logy = feat. Dr.vet./med./jur./theol./rer.nat./.....,has it to be,Dogma ?

Flat/round ~ hen/egg: first ?
Life-problem(s) solution ?


Does the hypothetical ' answer' helps to end wars,giving better work results,less fraidness in life ?
Priority in solution search  for humans ' right way orientation' search ?

Only Free-Timer entertainment,no results dependent,emotion-free ?



I personally know= scio,1.Pers.Singular + Present+Indicativ from scire,Nomen : Scientia,Scientist
 that I have something,and this is thinking + mind + opinion and the possibility and force and WILL

and physical/psychological instrument to answer you ,"anonymus Temporal Visitor" :


                   Nothing is in "SET THEORY" given as = { }

We knowes ,that without { language,interest,friendship,ethics,internet,electricity,HOLD,.....} we would not give to
 some like You ' nettiquete-conform' answer,but more a. IGNORANCE
 b. mental TASER-like(if persistent borring/a-noy-ing= chronical Nay !-sayer = semper opposite ) !

A:only or B= only that is DOGMA,BULLYING !
Are You ,in real life surrounding your people with that mannic 'Dr.phil-like'-habit ?

Then more in a theory/practise confusing applying life-art and life-kind,Scientist

                               " Dr.anti-phil non honoris causa Temporal Visitor "


I am allowing me and myself to make errors,but in try ever to correct these/this,and learn to become wiser and

older ~ ad Ulterior !


Would you have entered the plane,seeing your pilot as 4-5years old child ?
Can a 4-5years old child not fly correct a plane on our flat-Meseta-round-globe ?


                 Unbelieveable ? By law - legal minimum age to conduct/fly  a plane - HERE-common sense:
                NO,not possible= not allowed - by administrative - SPACE and LIFE SAFETYNESS WARRANTY- laws ! 

                Counter-view,ironical : only professional you are allowed to do " professional crashs",
                                                        in " plane-fly simulator"-lessons,clearly !

                                                        Good,that you only has been : co-pilot !


Question : did the plane flew with or without energy ? Do you know it ? Tell PILOTES ever the truth ?

      fear to crash,Flug-Angst :

Do you mean that the name design for a new airline by choosing " Crash Air" would be a right

emotion/imagination-free economical nonplusultra decision ,with punky board-personal,fly crew ?



Deutsch : "Eigen-",international also in anglophonic use : ~ latin-gracian " Auto"- ?
Auto-pilot : plane [ or un-mened ( neutrum,female or male pilotes !)drone] departure/landing
       
or ' cruise missile' : how important for autonomous flyiing subjects flat/round,flexibility !?



                                  NO STRESS,up(to heaven) down (to earth,hell) the planes comes ever ! Know: How ?



I take now in your life-visit-journey my para-chute,priorities are calling !

Sincerely
OCWL
Nach-Schrift:  eine e-brennende Lichterkette UM  die jeweiligen " Aeste " herum : wo bleibt der Schatten ?
                          'Cuto lux' ( know:how)

                           erst verschwimmt die Form,das Negativ : in gruen-rot-gelb, nimmt ab ins Weiss oder Schwarz
   
                          Dunkelheit erfasst sich ,kein aeusseres Format mehr ersichtlich,aber innerlich In-/Format-ion
                          Zumindest es war,IST,KANN wieder werden : Licht UND Schatten,coloriert

                         ( oder ,wissenschaftlich : Lichtschatten)             

Johan,

Don't follow what you expect to be seen, and a 5 hour video loaded with straps

Hi TV,

Its was not meant for you man, sorry!

When it was running here on a BigSreen, did see over 20/22 remarkable moments, maybe even missing the most?

It was for our Hero's, and making baby food would be like Spoon-Feeding adults, below there Level!

But GREAT movie about and with MythJamie, Thanks!

Regards, Johan
 

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