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Offline Temporal Visitor

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #105 on: October 26, 2020, 05:53:28 PM »
"Propagation of Electromagnetic Fields Over Flat Earth", i.e., no obstacles in the way like hills, buildings, trees, etc., that could skew test results of the propagation of electromagnetic fields.

"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. It is an important type of cognitive bias that has a significant effect on the proper functioning of society by distorting evidence-based decision-making. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. For example, a person may cherry-pick information that supports their belief, ignoring what is not supportive. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs".  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

No doubt about it everyone has and exhibits such bias to some degree. (Myself included at times)

Paul_R hero is one of many prime examples of a cowardly cherry picker who finds himself unable to explain away "objective evidence" that chips away at, if not destroys the very foundations of his unsupportable "beliefs".

Anyone can run from TRUTH but none can truly hide. Paul_R hero lost what he now describes as "debate"..

He who leaves the battlefield first loses by default. (Book of Job; Mat. 10;22)

Paul, without wings HOW HIGH CAN YOU FLY?  "WITH God YOU'RE NEVER ALONE."

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #105 on: October 26, 2020, 05:53:28 PM »

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2020, 06:40:56 PM »
These have got to be some of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen.  But my question I posed a few pages back was never answered.  What possible benefit is it to believe the earth is flat?


How do you flat earthers explain the changing seasons?  Just in your own words.  I am not going to waste my time watching some 2 hour video where the special effects can make anything seem possible.


And how do you explain that in the summer time if you are north of the arctic circle you can actually watch the sun go completely around you in a circle in 24 hours?  And don't tell me that is not true because I have been there and seen it.


And how do you explain that in the winter time the sun never appears at all if you are above the arctic circle?


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2020, 07:06:59 PM »
The lines of flux are not solid like a fishing line or a railway line. They are positions of the effect that is a magnet.
No shit Dumbo. Fishing lines and railroad tracks exist in physical reality. Your "lines of flux" have no existence outside of your thick skull.

Please explain how a neodymium outrunner motor works or if you accept the equivalence of an electromagnet and a magnetr, explain how ANY motor works.

I can but don't need to since I use outrotor motors in my own WORK, besides you have already lost by default, and proof of that is your cowardly cherry picking to evade questions that you know the answer to but are afraid to admit because they chip away at your "faith" in the god of SCIENTISM.

Your reasoning is crap, your videos are crap, your knowledge of physics is about nil and if you claim to be a pilot and say that a compas doesn't work, then you are a fraud in this respect also.

So says the monkey based man/boy who couldn't and won't shoot down the so-called crap with real "objective evidence".

You are dim, and insulting now to the point of "fighting words" - so here you go homo man/boy choke on the evidence provided below that you were too stupid to politely ask for.

Now you can go do your own research to see if I AM a pilot or not.

You twist my words on the compass, what an IGNORANT BASTARD you are. Here is very recent "evidence" to back up what I actually l wrote about. https://blog.aopa.org/aopa/2020/04/08/navigating-uncertainty-between-the-south-pole-and-coronavirus/

I presume you believe the entire history of NASA is a fraud, from Alan Shepherd's suborbital to the moon landings and on to the ISS which is actually visible to everyone every so often.
Wasting time ... Those who trust government have not read history.

Your standard of debate is insufficient. I can't be bothered with this anymore.

Picking fights you cannot finish is not a brilliant display of intelligence.

You suck so bad that you might be the explanation needed to explain how it is possible to have a pressurized atmosphere without a container next to a vacuum of "infinite outer space". No need to go there since I accept
your quit.

You are excused.

P.S. Just for the record; I never said I AM a flat earth er. Only that I AM a pilot and have done much research about it and have many serious questions unanswered. The shape matters not to me - only the lie that people live with by choice.

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2020, 07:06:59 PM »
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2020, 07:43:41 PM »
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #109 on: October 26, 2020, 08:31:56 PM »
No shit Dumbo. Fishing lines and railroad tracks exist in physical reality. Your "lines of flux" have no existence outside of your thick skull.

I can but don't need to since I use outrotor motors in my own WORK, besides you have already lost by default, and proof of that is your cowardly cherry picking to evade questions that you know the answer to but are afraid to admit because they chip away at your "faith" in the god of SCIENTISM.

So says the monkey based man/boy who couldn't and won't shoot down the so-called crap with real "objective evidence".

You are dim, and insulting now to the point of "fighting words" - so here you go homo man/boy choke on the evidence provided below that you were too stupid to politely ask for.

Now you can go do your own research to see if I AM a pilot or not.

You twist my words on the compass, what an IGNORANT BASTARD you are. Here is very recent "evidence" to back up what I actually l wrote about. https://blog.aopa.org/aopa/2020/04/08/navigating-uncertainty-between-the-south-pole-and-coronavirus/
Wasting time ... Those who trust government have not read history.

Picking fights you cannot finish is not a brilliant display of intelligence.

You suck so bad that you might be the explanation needed to explain how it is possible to have a pressurized atmosphere without a container next to a vacuum of "infinite outer space". No need to go there since I accept
your quit.

You are excused.

P.S. Just for the record; I never said I AM a flat earth er. Only that I AM a pilot and have done much research about it and have many serious questions unanswered. The shape matters not to me - only the lie that people live with by choice.
No comment.


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Re: Earth Question
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Re: Earth Question
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #111 on: October 27, 2020, 10:18:39 AM »

So it appears you flat earth people have no answers for my questions.

These have got to be some of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen.  But my question I posed a few pages back was never answered.  What possible benefit is it to believe the earth is flat?


How do you flat earthers explain the changing seasons?  Just in your own words.  I am not going to waste my time watching some 2 hour video where the special effects can make anything seem possible.


And how do you explain that in the summer time if you are north of the arctic circle you can actually watch the sun go completely around you in a circle in 24 hours?  And don't tell me that is not true because I have been there and seen it.


And how do you explain that in the winter time the sun never appears at all if you are above the arctic circle?


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Offline NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #112 on: October 27, 2020, 12:35:45 PM »
But my question I posed a few pages back was never answered. What possible benefit is it to believe the earth is flat?

I don't know about there being any "benefit" to those who subscribe to flat earth, but I posed a similar question several years ago to those in that fe community: Why does it matter if the Earth is flat or round?
I received a resounding "because they are lying to us".
My response: They are always lying to us; try not to think about it too much as thinking too much tends to make people crazy.

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #113 on: October 27, 2020, 01:15:42 PM »
Who.cares if the Earth is flat or not?

I was thinking about something else.

In ideal capitalism society everyone has right to trade.
That is root of capitalism!

Now, if state trade with Aliens, they made a fortune from it.
Deny it to citiziens of that country is violation of free trade or capitalism!
So, that country is no longer capitalism orientated!
It is more socialism  orientated.
Everything to state, nothing to individual!

So, I am asking myself, if the States are capitalistic or socialistic orientated?

If the black budget programs travel across universe and trade,
what about the others? In that society? Are they have right to trade,
or are they denied to do so?

It is capitalism, and everyone has equal opportunities?
I doubt they have!

So, what that makes of States?
New capitalism US?

Feudal?

Are you all paying taxes for socialism enviroment?

How stupid you all are?
 
Do you even understand what I am talking about?

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #113 on: October 27, 2020, 01:15:42 PM »
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #114 on: October 27, 2020, 05:09:26 PM »
Quote from Temporal Visitor.
"From the CIA you can find over 43 documents about a Flat Earth and a Firmament!?"
END of Quote

"Start with honesty" a good suggestion, and an admirable trait to display.

Too bad your post starts in DECEPTION from which I am able to reason you lack "self honesty"  that you state
"is apparent you lack", towards me. Oh the irony.

Fact is: Those are not my words.

Rather than calling you an outright liar weaving your web ... I will give you the benefit of doubt and allow you
to prove up your claim with a direct citation/link to wherever it is you mistakenly believe can/will show those words are my own.

Reasonably I don't believe you will be able to "honestly" do so.

You are welcome, Prove me wrong ab initio.

(I'll wait for you to do that before addressing the rest of beating your dead horse below.)

1. Not a single one of those articles,  is about a Flat Earth.
   
2. You can also write poetry upon a square of toilet paper.
If you wish, you can call that a "document" and strictly speaking, it would be.

3. It is a total stretch / B.S. stance, to refer to the materials discussed as     "CIA"   
documents.

If it had instead, been pages from an old Time magazine, but downloaded from that declassified CIA trash dump site, would it have been an honest appraisal to refer to it as "CIA documents" ?. NO!

4. Its not a theory that the earth is a sphere. 
                              Its a fact.

Suggestions..

Improve your communications skills. 

1. Start with honesty.
2. Then clear unambiguous phraseology.

The first will require something which it is apparent you lack, (self honesty).
The second, will require that you acquire some ability to reason.

  good luck
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #115 on: October 27, 2020, 06:11:52 PM »

Still no answers to my questions.  Only personal attacks against those that don't believe your fantasy.

These have got to be some of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen.  But my question I posed a few pages back was never answered.  What possible benefit is it to believe the earth is flat?


How do you flat earthers explain the changing seasons?  Just in your own words.  I am not going to waste my time watching some 2 hour video where the special effects can make anything seem possible.


And how do you explain that in the summer time if you are north of the arctic circle you can actually watch the sun go completely around you in a circle in 24 hours?  And don't tell me that is not true because I have been there and seen it.


And how do you explain that in the winter time the sun never appears at all if you are above the arctic circle?


Carroll

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #116 on: October 27, 2020, 06:22:15 PM »

To ALL, this is a Earth Question topic, together for what is true about Flat or Globe!?

Because of image's like below:
 

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« Reply #117 on: October 27, 2020, 10:44:19 PM »
Flat Earthers only do this to cause trouble and raise the angers. If they were ever to take a jet flight other than commercial, then the obvious would be. Take the live picture of the famous Red Bull Jump. 85K feet and you could seriously see the curves of the Earth there. No questions at all. Any military pilot will confirm. Just butt heads having fun causing troubles.


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #118 on: October 27, 2020, 11:11:53 PM »
Temporal visitor
You said there is no experiment to explain curved water which always seeks level. You are mistaken.

In fact there is and all water in outer space forms spheres and never flattens out. Look at all the pictures of free floating water in the space station or rockets which always form spheres in space. As well all the planets we can see are also spherical because most were molten or semi fluid at one point.

You do understand Earth is floating in space don't you?. Or is space a hoax as well, lol.

No that is not what I wrote, nor is it what was written, meant or implied.
You have parsed words that were written to another specifically addressing belief in the globe model and the lack of scientifically proven thus "objective evidence" of any curved water surface to be found ON EARTH covering 7/10ths its surface.

For your convenience I include relevant excerpts that I can find that may have been misunderstood by you.
If you feel I have missed any please be sure to include them in your reply so they might be reviewed as well.

I see nothing in what I wrote implying anything to do with hoaxes, "outer space" or the ISS - nor any direct relation of those to what actually makes all the water ON EARTH level, and when still measurably flat. 

You really don't need to show/prove your own ignorance any further, it is a self evident truth though I wish it wasn't so. Still sincerely looking forward to seeing it change when you realize your beliefs cannot irrefutably prove earth is a globe. (I tried, I still don't know, I have many serious unanswered questions and I admit it.)

Do some research yourself about your theoretical model and all the assumptions you need to rely on to support it to explain the "curved water" needed but can't be found as it is proven fact it always seeks level and no experiment ever done shows differently OR any curvature all.

AND

Is it your intention to leave me with your tacit admission that you are unable to justify the support your own model of a 1 rpm 1040 mph spinning ball/globe earth BELIEF SYSTEM which requires 7/10ths of earths surface to somehow be covered in water curved and stuck to that ball which to date has never been scientifically proven to exist anywhere, and thus has no real measurable basis in observable reality?

You have made lots of assertions, accusations and opinions on many topics.
I find you disturbed and insulting to me, so I typically avoid replying to your posts.
If you want to fight join the military. If you want debate join a debate club/site. You won't find me there.   

You can believe whatever you please, if you want me to look what you deem to be supporting evidence of your belief(s) I will look at all available relevant objective evidence, when/if  posted/submitted for review.

Onepower, I ask; Have you personally ever been higher (AGL/MSL) than the service ceiling of a jet powered aircraft?
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2020, 12:14:59 AM »
Still no answers to my questions.  Only personal attacks against those that don't believe your fantasy.

Hello Carrol,

I'll point out that it seems you have not addressed this post to anyone specifically - but it feels like you expect my response.

You and I have only once perhaps twice that I recall ever had any contact and if I recall correctly that concerned your kind words about others attacking me, and picture sizing advice you offered, to which I most likely thanked you for.
Please do correct me if you feel I am wrong on any of the above.

Through the years I have read things you've written that made me think there might be things you and myself had/have in common that would be of benefit to us both, perhaps even to others. This post today makes me wonder, but also warranted a reply.

 I ask is this the question(s) in question?

Good questions Conrad.  What I can't understand is what possible benefit is there for anyone to claim the earth is round if it really was flat?  And vice versa.  What do the flat earth people hope to do by claiming the earth is flat against all observable facts?  None of it makes any sense.


The silly discussion about the perimeter of the Antarctic versus the perimeter of the earth just really blows my mind.  Anyone with the least amount of understanding about geometry can easily see how an object can have a greater perimeter than the object it is inside of.  Just draw a star inside a circle and see which one has the longer perimeter.

Michael





 

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