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Offline Paul-R

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2020, 01:54:34 PM »
Can this also happen with the planet his magnetic force orientation ?
DE2644927  homopolar magnet process

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"Horseshoe or rod shaped homopolar magnet - has steel wire body bent into required shape and oriented in earth's magnetic field to form north or south poles". August 1977                                            .

I can't find the original document but the EPO is notoriously peculiar. Maybe someone else can. But if it were to be useful, we would all have had our homes heated for nothing for the last 40 years. 


Anyway, the application was abandonned in 1983, non payment of annual fee. (Possibly there is still only one person who can create a monopole magnet, and Temporal hasn't patented it).



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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2020, 01:54:34 PM »

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2020, 02:01:56 PM »
Yes, you do - if you want to retain any credibility. You depend on a model which needs a magnetic monopole. Please explain or appear absurd.

OK sure since you, in all your towering intellect say so, and in reality even said "please". With that in mind I'll be kind, therefore: You go first.

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge how and why you believe/insist a magnetic monopole is needed at all for that guy's model?
(Just a reminder to you that the model shown is not mine or even suggested to be anything more than what it is - an illustrative model - not reality.)

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge what a magnetic monopole is in reality?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge precisely what such a magnet acts upon in reality?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge the source of magnetic force?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge the source from which you became "learned" in matters of what is absurd?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge how and what force is to be able to effect any real world phenomea at all in reality?

YOU need to learn that I have many questions unanswered and that was already stated to you previously, but I don't ask questions that I don't already know the answers to. Your answers (if honest) will destroy your fantasy based ILLusions and mathematical constructs, etc., etc. .

BTW: YOU have yet to answer so much as the very first question little old me asked of you about water and level. Where's your credability?

Never mind, that's already a given ... you are wasting time = Get REAL - or get lost.

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2020, 02:21:03 PM »


Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge how and why you believe/insist a magnetic monopole is needed at all for that guy's model?

It's there - in the video - a big flat earth with a pole at the centre. Where are its lines of flux?

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Re: Earth Question
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2020, 02:46:59 PM »
#90 :
the worldwide.espacenet.com page entering

above ,left side "advanced search" field

f.e. Applicant : Vlaho Kucera

gives all what the searcher wants

'Original document' also readable

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2020, 07:12:51 PM »
OK sure since you, in all your towering intellect say so, and in reality even said "please". With that in mind I'll be kind, therefore: You go first.

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge how and why you believe/insist a magnetic monopole is needed at all for that guy's model?
(Just a reminder to you that the model shown is not mine or even suggested to be anything more than what it is - an illustrative model - not reality.)

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge what a magnetic monopole is in reality?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge precisely what such a magnet acts upon in reality?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge the source of magnetic force?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge the source from which you became "learned" in matters of what is absurd?

Will YOU please explain from your own personal knowledge how and what force is to be able to effect any real world phenomena at all in reality?

YOU need to learn that I have many questions unanswered and that was already stated to you previously, but I don't ask questions that I don't already know the answers to. Your answers (if honest) will destroy your fantasy based ILLusions and mathematical constructs, etc., etc. .

BTW: YOU have yet to answer so much as the very first question little old me asked of you about water and level. Where's your credibility?

Never mind, that's already a given ... you are wasting time = Get REAL - or get lost.

It's there - in the video - a big flat earth with a pole at the centre. Where are its lines of flux?

Thanks for being civil.
OK just to be fair and also certain that I understand you correctly:
Again you do not respond to the water / level issue. That was started several posts ago long before you took issue with the model in the video you finally watched the last 5 min. of showing a model by another.

Is it your intention to leave me with your tacit admission that you are unable to justify the support your own model of a 1 rpm 1040 mph spinning ball/globe earth BELIEF SYSTEM which requires 7/10ths of earths surface to somehow be covered in water curved and stuck to that ball which to date has never been scientifically proven to exist anywhere, and thus has no real measurable basis in observable reality?
 
Since you have answered only one of my most recent several questions is it safe to say you tacitly admit you have no personal knowledge from which you can provide answers to the remaining unanswered questions?

Is that one question all that you will respond to?

I have no desire to fight with anyone and won't badger you, though I could. It is not fun, I take no pleasure in doing so. You appear to be hung up with "lines of flux", but that is OK too and here is what I "know" about them and where they exist.
A.    Lines of flux are imaginary, creatures of your mind, however they do not exist in physical reality
B.    Since "lines of flux" do not exist in reality it stands to reason that a model does not need to have or show any as well.


Especially since as a pilot I "know" magnetic compasses DO NOT WORK for navigation anywhere close to the alleged "south pole", and GPS is even worse ~1000+ miles away in the real world, including aviation.

You are welcome to "believe" whatever you choose, but your choices are not binding upon me. Afaik: they are binding only upon you.

I prefer reality over fiction, science fiction, ILLusion, delusion, and being deceived to live and die in a lie.


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2020, 07:12:51 PM »
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #95 on: October 25, 2020, 10:11:54 PM »


The lines of flux are not solid like a fishing line or a railway line. They are positions of the effect that is a magnet.

Please explain how a neodymium outrunner motor works or if you accept the equivalence of an electromagnet and a magnetr, explain how ANY motor works.

Your reasoning is crap, your videos are crap, your knowledge of physics is about nil and if you claim to be a pilot and say that a compas doesn't work, then you are a fraud in this respect also.


I presume you believe the entire history of NASA is a fraud, from Alan Shepherd's suborbital to the moon landings and on to the ISS which is actually visible to everyone every so often.


Your standard of debate is insufficient. I can't be bothered with this anymore.


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2020, 12:23:08 AM »
#90 :
the worldwide.espacenet.com page entering

above ,left side "advanced search" field

f.e. Applicant : Vlaho Kucera

gives all what the searcher wants

'Original document' also readable

Sincerely
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/025555143/publication/DE2644927A1?q=DE2644927

   "The homopolar magnet is horseshoe shaped, or specif. bar or rod shaped, and is formed from steel wire of any thickness and is placed on a flat bed or plate such that both ends of the horseshoe are directed towards the south terrestrial pole, or towards the north terrestrial pole, in the first instancE. As a result of the effect of the earth's magnetism the horseshoe shaped steel wire is magnetised such that both its poles acquire the same, polarity or sign. More specif. a rod of bar shaped steel is arranged with one of its end faces against the end face of an "artificial" magnet and in this way the rod becomes a homopolar magnet, and remains permanently magnetised, without regard to its position in space and time".
It won't work. Surely the whole thing wil become a (pathetically) weak "bar" magnet, aligned to the earth's field. Anyway, steel won't do.

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Offline Floor

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2020, 05:30:39 AM »
Quote from Temporal Visitor.
"From the CIA you can find over 43 documents about a Flat Earth and a Firmament!?"
END of Quote

1. Not a single one of those articles,  is about a Flat Earth.
   
2. You can also write poetry upon a square of toilet paper.
If you wish, you can call that a "document" and strictly speaking, it would be.

3. It is a total stretch / B.S. stance, to refer to the materials discussed as     "CIA"   
documents.

If it had instead, been pages from an old Time magazine, but downloaded from that declassified CIA trash dump site, would it have been an honest appraisal to refer to it as "CIA documents" ?. NO!

4. Its not a theory that the earth is a sphere. 
                              Its a fact.

Suggestions..

Improve your communications skills. 

1. Start with honesty.
2. Then clear unambiguous phraseology.

The first will require something which it is apparent you lack, (self honesty).
The second, will require that you acquire some ability to reason.

  good luck
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #98 on: October 26, 2020, 06:11:10 AM »
Temporal visitor
You said there is no experiment to explain curved water which always seeks level. You are mistaken.

In fact there is and all water in outer space forms spheres and never flattens out. Look at all the pictures of free floating water in the space station or rockets which always form spheres in space. As well all the planets we can see are also spherical because most were molten or semi fluid at one point. 

You do understand Earth is floating in space don't you?. Or is space a hoax as well, lol.

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #99 on: October 26, 2020, 09:09:27 AM »

This site is for: Free independent people!

Why some members are getting so fast louder?
 

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« Reply #100 on: October 26, 2020, 10:34:11 AM »
Reading this document we will find the meaning about the ' flat ground and flat earth ' -terms use !Has nothing to do with ' the planet is plan/flat' or ' the planet is a round globe ' disputation !
When a young girl has a ' flat chest' this does not mean that her total body is geometrical flat !
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« Reply #101 on: October 26, 2020, 10:42:29 AM »
"Propagation of Electromagnetic Fields Over Flat Earth", i.e., no obstacles in the way like hills, buildings, trees, etc., that could skew test results of the propagation of electromagnetic fields.

"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. It is an important type of cognitive bias that has a significant effect on the proper functioning of society by distorting evidence-based decision-making. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. For example, a person may cherry-pick information that supports their belief, ignoring what is not supportive. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs".  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #102 on: October 26, 2020, 10:42:53 AM »
This site is for: Free independent people!

Why some members are getting so fast louder?


Your image is a document header. Where is the document?
IMO, either:

1. The document is photoshopped.

2. the document indiocates clearly that it is talking about

a first order apporximation. The second order approximation

will assume a curved earth.


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Re: Earth Question
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« Reply #104 on: October 26, 2020, 02:31:59 PM »
Yes,Johan,
when the radius is 10.000 km,as shown by the middlepoint to tangential point arrow, then the diameter,as indicated by the two distance arrows, is 20.000 km !
Thanks for your funny and correct clarity !
What you probably mean : focal distortion

funny and clear to alive : mirror cabinet

Sincerely

 

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