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Temporal Visitor

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2020, 12:50:18 PM »
floor

Thanks for admitting you found the actual cia.gov document Johan_1955 originally cited.
Thanks for yourself proving the document exists.  :) Please do recall his exact words"

From the CIA you can find over 43 documents about a Flat Earth and a Firmament!?

One is: cia-rdp86-00513r001343720008-3.pdf

It appears he provided it for anyone to review the underlying information on their own, and instead
you chose to home in on simplistically attacking the Jpeg illustration in your initial reply to him with
absolutely no mention of the content in the underlying document.

And just what are you saying Johan-1955 ?

Do you really expect people to believe that,
that
phony
home made,
silly,
cut and paste,

Jpg file is actually some kind of a CIA document ?

     wow

"wow" indeed, regarding your apparent lack of comprehension of his crystal clear sentence.

You went on to later reply to my comment that included a direct link to the document that you read from to write;

So what, a collection of Russian periodicals and so on in a PDF format
                and
Page twenty contains the phrase    "flat" earth.
                                       OMG !
In context there, the use of that phrase "flat earth, simply means that the atmospheric phenomena
being discussed is considered within a context    AS IF     the earth were flat.

                Any one
     can read it for their self
                and
      see that this is so.


Quote from: Temporal Visitor on October 14, 2020, 09:36:29 PM
........
Can you prove any of this to be "phony" with "objective evidence"? How about just being nice?


                      I just did.

   P.S.
  how old are you ?  Maybe 12 years old.

Not very impressive but "So what" - It shows you are/were either wrong or mistaken from the get go to be
so rude to him and dismissive of what he presented for evidence supporting his position that is obviously
contrary to yours.

OK context, that is your simple take on what you think, it proves nothing and falls far short of "objective evidence".

Again failing to recognize Johan_1955 specifically brings up the fact that the document does in fact
discuss both; "a Flat Earth and a Firmament!".

You and anyone else surely can dismiss all of this as you choose, but doing so does nothing
to alter the complexity of what is actually discussed in that document besides simply referencing
a ' "flat" earth', including;
"brightness from near sun halo", (there goes the 93,000,000 mile distant sun, and a lot more)
"the firmament", (a positive statement indicating a suspected or known existence)
"in the case of a spherical indicatrix", (as an alternate possibility still open to discovery)
"a method of determining the indicatrix of the atmosphere", (determining an actual thing)
(indicatrix = elipsoid, solid crystaline structure. - THINK container, and the ramifications)

Periodicals perhaps, but on a scientific topic written by intelligent people for other intelligent people
with smarts enough to comprehend the implications and important enough to have caught the
attention of an agency charged with obtaining INTELLIGENCE about what is and may actually be
going on everywhere, including just beyond the "atmosphere"- and surrounding/enclosing earth.

A fair reading of the document reveals topics over your head that you choose to simply ignore.

Your P.S. demonstrates your own ignorance sufficiently and most certainly is childishly ignorant.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2020, 03:43:26 PM by Temporal Visitor »

Johan_1955

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2020, 01:27:45 PM »

They only can see / talk what THEY are:
 

Johan_1955

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2020, 01:30:45 PM »

If they would know how to use a search-machine:
 

Johan_1955

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2020, 01:35:17 PM »

So we can't make them study, mainstream is SPOON-FEEDING them:
 

Paul-R

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2020, 02:20:19 PM »
So we can't make them study, mainstream is SPOON-FEEDING them:

There's no kind way of putting this Johan, but since I suspect you are a
manifestation of a second rate software programmer, this doesn't muchmatter.

You understand so little about the NASA memo which you haven't reador uinderstood thsat you will not comprehend any explanation.

You bring this site into disrepute.



sm0ky2

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2020, 07:16:06 PM »
Before i give you the answer...


I would like you to measure the surface area of a colliflower.
Then measure the circumference of the same of any slice thereof.

Paul-R

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2020, 10:16:35 PM »
Before i give you the answer...


I would like you to measure the surface area of a colliflower.
Then measure the circumference of the same of any slice thereof.

Stefan: i think you should have an award for posts of exceptional elegance, 
nay, beauty. i would like to nominate the above.



Floor

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2020, 07:03:47 AM »
The earth IS flat.

When I was just 14 years old, my daddy took me on a flight in his Lear jet.   We flew past the earth's edge and then flew under it.   To my surprise there were quite a few places where the oceans were leaking through.

Thankfully, there is a global effort from most of the worlds governments (secret / black budget stuff) to plug some of the larger holes before its too late. Otherwise the oceans will  just drain out !

Keep up the good work men.  The world must learn the truth before its too late.

  floor

  PS
    You guys are aware of the ancient knowledge of the Fakooba, aren't you ?

Johan_1955

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #68 on: October 18, 2020, 02:06:03 PM »

lancaIV

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #69 on: October 18, 2020, 02:51:21 PM »
Do they calculate with "flat earth" or "earth globe" maths : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observatory


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation monthly differences based by round geoid  or "flat disc" observation ,over all continents

Johan_1955

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2020, 12:42:45 PM »

Just short but very clear explained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xToO3I59CkU
 

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2020, 03:13:12 AM »
Neil DeGrasse Tyson debunks Flat Earth?

Have a look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTenIvtu90k

Try to actually PROVE the spherical earth yourself, you will find yourself coming up short on verifiable evidence.

Paul-R

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2020, 10:28:16 AM »
So we can't make them study, mainstream is SPOON-FEEDING them:
Re your pink highlighting: This is a FIRST ORDER APPROXIMATION, you daft fool.



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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2020, 10:47:12 AM »
Neil DeGrasse Tyson debunks Flat Earth?

Have a look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTenIvtu90k

Try to actually PROVE the spherical earth yourself, you will find yourself coming up short on verifiable evidence.
Get yourself a pocket compass. Buy an air ticket from, say, London to Los Angeles. Then another from there to Tokyo. then another from Tokyo to London. Explain why the compass is pointing roughly west for the whole expedition.
Idiot.


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2020, 04:00:17 PM »
I think most people these days are happy with the performance of their sat navs that tell them where they are to a high degree of precision.  And the whole GPS math that gives them that data is predicated on the earth being an oblate spheroid.  The geometry of a flat earth having satellites flying in circles above it would require different math.  And there would be nothing to keep the satellites up there anyway.

Smudge