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Offline Johan_1955

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2020, 05:36:20 PM »

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2020, 03:44:06 PM »
Maybe to much for some:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McdMMmclGVc

This video is really too much for me.

I sailed with a 14 meter yacht from the Netherlands to Norway (straight up over the North Sea, heading almost 0°) and I always saw ships, oil rigs and buildings on shore first the top and then more and more of their height.

I also went several times with a cruise ship and made the same observation. But one sits rather high above the water level on a cruise ship, so you might see 20 km, the weather must be good.

Once I sailed with a 12 meter yacht from Harwich to Scheveningen and on the second day of the journey it was absolutely calm and the North Sea was  like a mirror. You could clearly see the round seemingly flat area around the ship (like sitting on a round table top) terminated by the horizon not so far away (6 to 10 km depending on being 1 meter or 2 meters above the see level with the eyes) and ships came up from the horizon showing their highest point first.

But I simply looked and did no use high precision GPS, nor Lasers. So do not believe me, make a boat trip yourself.

I heard the story of the flat or concave earth told by people who could see from Konstanz to Lindau (40 km) on the Bodensee. It was explained by reflections on airsheets having different temperatures. This phenomena can only be seen rarely for a short time when the weather is just right (cool air sitting above warm air near the water, the cool air is blown in by strong winds and soon cools the air above the water).

If you shine a laser 60 km through air part of the tight beam scatters and you will see some light 60 km away. In the video they were constantly moving the laser beam till they saw something on the other side of the lake. Well, they saw sometimes scattered rays, not the whole beam which would be many meters wide.

High precision GPS over kilometers is not precise enough to see the leaning of buildings this far apart.

They never show numbers in the video, just endless talk.

I saw a video on you tube, where they tried a laser experiment over water some 40 kilometers. They failed because they could not point the laser accurately enough to do the measurement. The laser always shot way off with the slightest movement of its mounting. Apparently it is very difficult to target a laser beam at something 40 km away.

But if you want to believe that the earth is bent the other way, feel free to do so, no harm is done, because everything will work as if you believed in a spherical earth. And that is a miracle.

Greetings, Conrad


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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2020, 06:40:00 PM »


I tend to think that one participant to this thread may have been
dropped on his head when he was small.


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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2020, 09:32:29 PM »
Truth stands on its own.

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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2020, 09:34:48 PM »
Truth requires few words.

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Offline onepower

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2020, 07:07:58 AM »
Conrad
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I sailed with a 14 meter yacht from the Netherlands to Norway (straight up over the North Sea, heading almost 0°) and I always saw ships, oil rigs and buildings on shore first the top and then more and more of their height.

Damn you, I love sailing because I'm a prairie boy and the bigger the waves are the more I like them and I love Norway even if I have only seen pictures. Why do you taunt us land bound flat earth prairie people this way?.

The only thing amazing about this thread is that anyone bothers to read Johan's nonsense in my opinion.

Regards and happy sailing my friend, I wish I was with you...



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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2020, 09:46:29 AM »
Yes sailing ....


My experience is the same as Conrad


I remember showing my kids when you climb the mast  ..you can see
The ships heading into NY harbor climb out of the water
the higher you climb!!
About 15 miles or so depending on conditions the curvature would show on the bigger vessels
And approaching land/islands!


Or on very clear days look back towards NYC and see half a skyscraper in the water!
Actually during strictest lockdown here air got much clearer....
Onepower
Yes the water is every bit the delight to see/sea


We need to keep it healthy!!


I love Johan and a few others writing here
And wish I had more time to keep up!!


Or sail!!( on foils ...?













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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2020, 11:18:02 AM »

Before you type maybe to look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lLmW5Y8BFw
 

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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2020, 12:19:36 PM »
Johan,did you ever see a "total globe picture ,with all the continents to see ",flat earth indicator ?!
What is your math to calculate the needed distance to get this picture from orbital photography ?


The planet Earth is flat : eine Scheibe ,ein Diskus or taking the old denomination : Tellus /Erd-Teller

plan = flach = flat   to Planet/-a

" I have a plan !" Notorischer Flach-Denker ? ;) Oder einer mit Stirn-Glatze ? :D

Auf dem " flachen Lande" redet man platt ,hierbei "nieder" gemeint,nicht " hoch " = nieder stehend fuer "in Hochsprache nicht ausgebildet " , deshalb nach "eigener Facon, frei Gusto,frei Schnauze ugs." !

     UNDIKTIONIERT ! Frei jeglicher Diktion,Vorgabe,Vorbild !
Solange diese Plattlaendler sich dabei verstehen,why not !

Platt : prato uebersetzt sich mit Teller, plate uebersetzr sich mit (Flach-)Teller
auch Essens-Platte ,wie Fisch-/oder Schinken-Platte   


Aber : phonetischer/orthographischer Sprachenvergleich

           Prato/Plate :  anstatt r ein l oder anstatt l ein r : igreja/iglesia

Plateau : Tafel / Tisch Kapstadt Tafelgebirge 

  aber auch Mesa deshalb Meseta,wo ein Cervantes sich einen Anti-Muehlen-Ritter erschuf



Plateau-Schuhe : ?

Tisch oder Tafel : im Italienischen Banca,stehend fuer Wechsel-Tisch/-Tafel,wo Geldgeschaefte " Muenz-Geld gegen papierne Wechsel/Noten" getaetigt wurden;war der Finanzier illiquide ,so erfolgte die "Banca-rotta", der Tisch/die Tafel wurde zerstoert,Geschaeftsverbot  !
Noch heute spricht man im Finanzwesen von " Tafel(= Banc/-a/-o) geschaeften" !

Es wird mit "Tafel" aber auch eine soziale Essensausgabe fuer Beduerftige bezeichnet !

Aus dem tabula zu tableau zu mono-phonetisch : tavleau zu Tafel ,vertikal die Schultafel
Wenn "Bank" fuer uebersetzend Tafel/Tisch gesprochen wird wie ist es dann mit Samenbank ?
Grammatisch waere Samentisch/Samentafel zwar korrekt,aber haette so ,der Schwabe wuerde behaupten :       
                              es haett' so sein Geschmaeckle !


                              Unappetitlich,frivol,provokant,desavouierend !


Man geht tafeln,zu Speis' und Trank ! Die Tafel ist gedeckt !Aber es gibt auch die Ver-taefelung : das Ueberdecken einer Oberflaeche

LP = Langspiel-Platte auf dem Platten-Teller des Plattenspielers

      Wofuer steht " Nieder-/Nether"-Landen(pl.) ,derwohl vormals Generals-Staaten,zu unterscheiden der "Spanischen Niederlande",nun seit 1821 "Belgien" genannt !?

Weshalb ,durch wen, als Holland bezeichnet ?

Der Planet ist flach : Pleonasmus ! Aber nur linguistisch,nicht 1:1 materialistisch !


Viele Hobby-Theoretiker sind Alt-/Fremdsprachen-Analphabeten !
Verstehen (deshalb wohl ) nicht Zusammenhaenge und dazu die/den  jeweiligen Zeit/Aera,Ort/Raum und des jeweiligem Subjekt den zugeordnetem Objekt-Kontext !
Somit viele Theoretiker nicht Eigen-Denker darstellen sondern nur Nachplapperer, Simulations-Mimikry !


Sincerely

p.s. : lebe in einer Ortschaft namens Vila Cha,Cha steht fuer Erd-Scholle/Boden, der Eigenname als Bezeichnung darum : Vila planense

Auch wenn es sich hierbei um ein Fischerdorf handelt ,die obige Scholle nicht mit der Butt-/Plattfisch- Familien-Angehoerigket zu verwechseln ist,sondern im Sinne der Kontinental-Scholle/-Shelf zu verstehen ist ~ Landmasse
Der gemeine Bauer spricht ja bezueglich seines (Acker-)Grundes von " meiner Scholle/Boden ".

Essbare Scholle in Fischform wird aber auch von den hiesigen Fischern gefangen,heiszt hier : linguado

                Logo,is it not !? ::)


Cha oder Chao ( auf Akzentuierung wird hierbei " fahrlaessig" ;D verzichtet,haben aber die romanischen Luso- Linguistiker derselbst Schuld,aus dem lateinischen optimus ins lusitanische "optimo" wurde bei der letzten Sprachreform daraus ein verkrueppeltes " otimo",das tausendjaehrig zugehoerige " p" einfach kastriert ! )
j'accuse,ohne Dreyfuss zu Haenden  : Sprach-Holocaust ! Entsetzlicher !

 Ruhe es in Frieden,altes "p" !  :'(


Genaugenommen heiszt diese Ortschaft : Sao Mamede de Vila Cha
Mamede fuer vormals Mammonides ,,Mamma ( uebersetzt sich aus dem lusitanischen mit "Busen,Brust",Mamm/-a/-o-Graphy) )dieser soll mit seiner Brust Kinder gesaeugt haben !
mam(m)ar als Verb = saeugen ( nicht verwechseln mit zeugen ;Verwechslungsgefahr : zum Beispiel "  Zeugen Jehovas "  und nicht  " Saeuger Jehovas "  )

Ekelhafte Geschichte  :-\ , aber fuer die Kirche ein Heiliger ! Sao ~ Sancto,Santo,Saint  8)
Tunten-Gemeinschaft ! ::)



 Sprache ist kommunitative Gestaltung,mit Sprach - und als Laut-Bild,
bei jeglicher Gestaltungsfantasie werden ich bei hiesigen  "Meer(es)busen" bestimmt nicht nach dessen Brust-/Busen-Warzen suchen ,zwecks dem Saeugen !

Ich schwoere es !
Aber : lieber mare-mam(m)a als mare-moto ( = Seebeben)

Anstatt l ein r ,oder anstatt r ein l
te - ll- us  versus  te - rr - a

maremoto Seebeben terramoto Erdbeben

motere = sich bewegen

deshalb heissen sich bewegende Geraete : MOTOREN

beim Menschen : MOTORIK ,zu Unterscheiden der Notorik
               
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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2020, 06:25:24 PM »
IF THE EARTH IS FLAT WHAT IS BELOW US?

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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2020, 06:33:24 PM »
I CAN TELL YOU FOR FREE THAT THE SUN AND ALL THE STARS ARE THE ASS HOLE OF THE MILKY WAY BLACK HOLE.
BET YOU ALL DID NOT KNOW THAT. ALL THE GALAXIES ARE PERPERTUALY RECYCLING ITSELF.
E = MC SQAURE. NOT EVEN LIGHT CAN ESCAPE A BLACK HOLE . ALL THE STARS AND PLANETS
THAT ENTERS IT IS DIASSEMBLED TO THE FIRST ELEMENT WHICH IS HYDROGEN. WHICH IS WHY
THE SUN HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR BILLION OF YEARS. AND IT HAS BEEN REFUELING EVERY
SINGLE SECONDS.

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2020, 06:35:39 PM »
THE SUN AND ALL THE STARS ARE ACTAULLY STAR GATES TO ANY STARS WITHIN OUR GALAXY.

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Re: Earth Question
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2020, 08:47:27 PM »
IF THE EARTH IS FLAT WHAT IS BELOW US?

No hell below us
Above us only sky.



 

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