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Offline ramset

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #450 on: September 27, 2020, 05:50:50 PM »
Shared with permission of presenter
from here https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3951.msg84490;topicseen#msg84490


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As i already made a similar coil setup as Captainloz uses, i could not resist a replication attempt of Captainloz his setup presented in his video 9: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6X9jQIAVt4"  in which he shows a COP of 2.

His circuit used there is slightly different from earlier ones as he now uses a variable cap to tune L2 for resonance.

As far as i can see his circuit used is shown in the diagram below.

The L2 and L3 coils are special as the inner parts (2/3) are folded back, see his video 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9uSOdj-hE&t    on his youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Captainloz/videos

My replication can be seen here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWkVofOCBk

The resulting input / output measurements are in the screenshots below,  some specifics layout in the picture.

Screenshot 1: input 60mW,  screenshot 2: output 30mW for a cop of 0.5

I was using only my FG as input (5V DC square wave @ 30% duty cycle) and i don't think using a MOSFET driven by a FG will result in a higher COP.

Only potential problem i see is the groundloop caused by the FG grounded black lead and the scope ground leads when measuring the output.

But using a battery operated FG did not show a drastic change.

As we have lots of RF showing up in the output, i can imagine it will be hard to make correct measurements especially when using long(er) wiring and higher input voltages.

Non-members can reach me via a PM on Overunity.com.end
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 Thanks to presenter
also for clarity as per prior post
I am going to be asking for clarity on below Smudge Gain verify post from 2015 shared by Chris .

also I am

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #450 on: September 27, 2020, 05:50:50 PM »

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #451 on: September 27, 2020, 05:55:23 PM »
RESPONSE#1

This needs understanding ,and explanation [link below]
/../
https://www.youtube.com/user/Captainloz/videos
also member Atti2 here is another person I have great respect for...he asks questions and honestly feels he is seeing something
in his circuit
/../
Thank you Ramset.
Smudge comment is very  educated and valuable.
Excellent English skills  professionalism and deep knowledge.
However logical errors are not  unique to the  bright and  convincing.
It is the level of the audience that often makes them , to eat  garbage and digest it.
_____________________________________

So Smudge  explanation ( confirmation of  Bucking gain)
can be chopped to the individual components  for purpose of analysis.
When looking  at these components of impedance I 'm delighted.
-Wow. this guy knows what he's talking about.

However when Smudge starts to talk about equivalent circuit  that makes me very much disoriented .
Smudge quote:
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Wounding made on core with significant  magnetic  viscosity exhibits energy gain

Response to the quoted Smudge wording:
 
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Energy storage in a transformer core is an undesired parasitic element.
With a high permeability core material, energy storage is minimal. In an inductor,
the core provides the flux linkage path between the circuit winding and a non-magnetic gap, physically in series with the core.
Virtually all of the energy is stored in the gap. if there is any gap. https://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup124/slup124.pdf
please don't limit  Magnetic  Viscosity  just with  this:
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The viscosity of the fluid in a magnetic field is predicted by dimensional analysis to be a function of the ratio of hydrodynamic stress to magnetic stress,
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0021979769902203

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So what is viscosity?
Viscosity is: the state of being thick, sticky, and semi-fluid in consistency, due to internal friction.

What is magnetic  viscosity ?
Magnetic Viscosity:

!!!!!!The following article is from The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1979).
  It  might  be  outdated  or  ideologically  biased.!!!!!!

https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Magnetic+Viscosity
quote:
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The existence of a time delay between a change in the magnetic field applied to a ferromagnetic
material and the resulting change in magnetic induction which is too great to be explained by the existence of eddy currents.   
(plasma  physics) The effect, possessed by a magnetic
field in the absence of sizable mechanical forces or electric fields, of damping motions
of a conducting fluid perpendicular to the field similar to ordinary viscosity.

I contrast to that I'm giving you ordinary  American Science link
Magnetic Viscosity
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128035818028071

look for more in  PART#2


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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #452 on: September 27, 2020, 06:03:41 PM »
RESPONSE#2
so yes everything  is nice here  right?
....or maybe not so much?
_______________________________

Well lets go  to other  component of pictured  comment of Smudge posted by EM Junke
as a  proof and confirmation of Bucking gain  of his devices.
Smudge verifies Bucking gain.png (60.57 kB, 769x540
So step  by step :
what is that Bucking gain  about ?

____________________________________________
 lets start first from  bucking coil:
1. https://overunity.com/6477/bucking-vs-bifilar-coils-a-question-please/
2.https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/bucking+coil bucking coil
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(electromagnetism) A coil connected and positioned in such a way that its magnetic field opposes the magnetic
field of another coil; for example, the hum-bucking coil of an excited-field loudspeaker.
3.https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/b/bucking_coil.aspx
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Typically, there is one transmitter and five to ten pairs of receivers and bucking coils that are balanced to remove direct coupling//..//.
There are trade-offs in any response.




Buck  converter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_converter
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A buck converter is a DC-to-DC power converter which steps down voltage from its input to its output.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/buck-converter
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Buck Converter analysis  20 kHz, Vg=400V In. L=3.5 mH, C=50 µF, and R=30 Ω.


So why NONE OF THE OFFICIAL MONEY MAKING BODIES IN USA NEVER MENTIONED ABOUT
energy gain in bucking coil coming from ....// equivalent circuit analysis?//


I would love to hear from Smudge..
Is this honored British Gentleman
 backing, supporting, or confirming phenomena  presented by EMJunke?
or
Is it possible that  Smudge.. respected opinion was  just :
-used and abused ,
-raped
-and defecated at
by 
EMJunke and/or possibly by some of  his Russian team of   
educated in Russia
but not always  well  paid (in Russia) experts, ready to invent/promote/support any kind of
ideas  and/or  making statements ( if any)  for another $50/ mo?
without Smudge even knowing about it
?


Note: the true data:
         Russian    average salary    in regions is around    $180/ mo
         Papua New Guinea - Papuasian  earns  in average $190/mo
         African Nigeria  average salary is $168 (only $11 less than in Russia) /mo                   
               
Wesley

Legal Note: all said by me  above and/or in
any comment made by me - is expressing only and/or entirely my personal opinion.

based on my  American Constitutional freedom of  speech and expression
That opinion can be changed, verified and adjusted based on credible factors. 
« Last Edit: September 27, 2020, 10:34:00 PM by stivep »

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #452 on: September 27, 2020, 06:03:41 PM »
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #453 on: September 27, 2020, 06:33:42 PM »
To All,

I would be very surprised if CaptainLoz or EMJ has not, by now, connected the lamp loads directly to the DC power supply.  A very simple test, suggested many deleted pages ago, the outcome of which could have very easily proven or disproven their scope readings.

Perhaps it is the results of those "lamps connected directly to the DC supply" tests that caused EMJ to take his ball and bat and go home...

PW


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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #454 on: September 27, 2020, 10:02:20 PM »
To All,

I would be very surprised if CaptainLoz or EMJ has not, by now, connected the lamp loads directly to the DC power supply.  A very simple test, suggested many deleted pages ago, the outcome of which could have very easily proven or disproven their scope readings.

Perhaps it is the results of those "lamps connected directly to the DC supply" tests that caused EMJ to take his ball and bat and go home...

PW

Hey PW,
I think you've arrived at a reasonable deduction. Some people run and hide when embarrassed. It is likely the case here. Nice goin'.
bi

edit: I forgot there are certain conditions where the patient is incapable of embarrassment.

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #454 on: September 27, 2020, 10:02:20 PM »
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #455 on: September 27, 2020, 11:00:59 PM »
Just a note
 I will not bother Smudge today,if he happens to read here Fine..however I do know from comments in the past.. he does not check forums on a regular basis ..I will reach out tomorrow

honestly whether Captainloz finds issues or not...understanding this Mechanism Chris uses to harvest gain needs
comprehension [in other builds he calls selfrun

others [David Bowling Matt Jones, Bedini Rick F.. Bill Alek etc etc?] besides Chris have claimed a gain while connected to batteries...these opportunities to verify such claims may seem like Funny comments to readers.
However getting this gain to manifest on the bench and fully understanding ["energy audit" for lack of a better word...
What mechanism is driving the gain claim ?["error" or True possible gain mechanism...?one reason I am thankful for Bedini info recently posted here for replication..
no one here has ever fully explained what is being seen and how the builders are doing it
and yes biggest reason has been "this secret.. or "that secret... and here Chris making this much more complicated than it has to be!
(IMO no stone left unturned
and here links to builder replication attempt [shared with permission
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3951.msg84497;topicseen#msg84497





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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #456 on: September 27, 2020, 11:13:18 PM »
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Now that you all have blown your chance to learn, Loz and I are tired of all your stupid, the question arises:

   1: If you are still alive at the end of all this, Kali Yuga, will you have gained anything?
   2: If you gain anything will you share it with others?
   3: Will you get the same response I have received from all of you?


I mean really, being accused of being a Russian Troll, FFS, what children! Accusing Loz and I, as being the same person, what's wrong with all of you? Fix your stupid!

We do not use Batteries, other than to Start the Machines, then they are removed from the Circuit - Don't listen to: FAKE NEWS!!!

Smudge's Work was found to be a Small PART of our work, far from the answer! - Don't listen to: FAKE NEWS!!!

I am not, and NEVER have been connected to ANYONE, none of the names you mention!

See what I mean! No one can get their story straight!

I hope you learn, I hope you evolve, I really do, truth is, I hold very little hope for some of you! You have all made this harder on yourselves! You have no one to blame but your selves! I gave you ample opportunities! Hundreds of hours of Data! Not ONE HERE, took the opportunity! You have no one to blame but yourselves! Period!

PW has proven himself to have such poor knowledge in Electronics Engineering, that not a single person here should listen to him, many others have completely no idea, when they think they do, the most dangerous approach to Science a Soul could have! Some of you have likely never even done an experiment to make any progress, so yes, I hold very little hope for most of you!

Very little hope!


IF YOU ARE SERIOUS:
You need to approach with an OPEN MIND, Ready to learn! Then you can progress!

I take pity on you all, 2, nearly 3 decades, and not a single bit of progress!

Anyone ever noticed, I have a Trail of Successful Replications behind me? They all Support My Work! Not a single person through history has ever achieved this! Not one!

I wish you luck, you're going to need it!

   EMJ



P.S: Highly-Educated Americans Are By Far The Most Closed-Minded - See what I mean! Some, think they already know everything, when, very clearly, they DO NOT!

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #457 on: September 28, 2020, 12:28:30 AM »
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 Not a single person through history has ever achieved this! Not one!

   EMJ


Noone did it like you.

They did much better.

Kapanadze
Akula
StevenMark
Floyd Sweet
Tesla
And many others.

In my line of work I saw many better than you.
But I never saw so badly behaved person as you.

You should.work on yourself.

Regards

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #458 on: September 28, 2020, 12:34:13 AM »
Noone did it like you.

They did much better.

Kapanadze
Akula
StevenMark
Floyd Sweet
Tesla
And many others.

In my line of work I saw many better than you.
But I never saw so badly behaved person as you.

You should.work on yourself.

Regards






And, Gear, your contributions to Humanity include What Exactly?

See what I mean! Foolish people, hiding behind fake Identities, with nothing of value to add! That is, except Pointless Noise!

Looks like a WhatIsIt post to me!

   EMJ

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« Reply #458 on: September 28, 2020, 12:34:13 AM »
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #459 on: September 28, 2020, 12:47:25 AM »





And, Gear, your contributions to Humanity include What Exactly?

See what I mean! Foolish people, hiding behind fake Identities, with nothing of value to add! That is, except Pointless Noise!

Looks like a WhatIsIt post to me!

   EMJ

You are been posting for 5 months without working device.
If you were worth someone like me will be already approach you with proposal.

Regards

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #460 on: September 28, 2020, 01:21:03 AM »

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We do not use Batteries, other than to Start the Machines, then they are removed from the Circuit - Don't listen to: FAKE NEWS!!! 



EMJunkie,

Indeed, we should not listen to fake news. You fail to mention how long that circuit remains in operation when the batteries are removed.  Even the "eternal" flash light circuit which is a much higher buzz on your forum now than the POC, cannot run from capacitors for long: the capacitors lose charge and the circuit dies out. Prove me wrong if this is not so! 

So who spreads fake news? 


PW has proven himself to have such poor knowledge in Electronics Engineering, that not a single person here should listen to him, many others have completely no idea, when they think they do, the most dangerous approach to Science a Soul could have!



Says who?  A desperate guy who uses Ohms Law for a LED lamp rated for 12 V operation at 7.5 W power and who calculates it to be 30 W when the same lamp is run from 24 V. Independent measurements clearly proved: the power consumed changes around the nominal consumption only a few percent due to the built-in constant current drive for the LEDs. 

So who has poor knowledge in Electronics Engineering?

Picowatt certainly has good knowledge, for instance his latest clever suggestion of connecting the lamp loads directly to the DC power supply to check the power levels at equal brightnesses has been fruitful: Itsu just did that test on the other forum and confirmed that his input and output power measurements by the oscilloscope on the POC circuit built as shown in Captainloz video 9 are well within the ball park i.e. the DC tests on the lamp confirms the power levels and hence the COP < 1. 

So what can we think of your POC? You have never shown correct, in fact any, measurements to prove your COP > 1 claim.

Chris, when will you look into the mirror?   You blame here several people for your own "weaknesses".

Gyula

PS Will you surprise us to stop your childish behaviour?

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #461 on: September 28, 2020, 04:22:30 AM »
The self-proclaimed Hero's have greater knowledge than everyone else already!

Talk about the the kettle calling the pot black...

EMJ,

In the very first video that you posted years ago, you used 15 watts from a DC supply to light a 3.6 watt incandescent light bulb to about half or so its rated brightness.

In the second video you posted, you used around 1 watt from a DC supply supply to light a similar incandescent light bulb to even less brightness.

Jump ahead 5 or 6 years to the present, and a replication you have endorsed as working properly and in accordance with your "theory" is using 17 watts from a DC supply to light a pair of 2.8 watt incandescent light bulbs (CaptaniLoz's video #5).

In a more recent video, (CaptainLoz's video #9) 19 watts from the DC supply is lighting a 2.8 watt incandescent lamp that looks slightly overdriven and a 7.5 watt LED lamp.

The above observations are just that, observations, and I really don't see how they can be in dispute.  Based on those observations, the circuit's appear to be very, very, inefficient.  Much more so than what could be achieved by connecting the loads directly to the DC supply.

If your POC is overunity to the degree claimed, and as your test equipment would have us believe, similar observations would instead be indicative of overunity operation.

For example, it would be very impressive if the DC supply was only providing 3 or 4 watts and yet you were able to illuminate to full brilliance the pair of 2.8 watt incandescent lamps as confirmed with a lux meter and connection of the lamps directly to the supply.

But that is never the case, the supply always appears to be providing significantly more power to the circuit than the loads appear to dissipate. 

PW

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #462 on: September 28, 2020, 04:50:47 AM »
EMJ's response to my post above before he deleted it:

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WOW CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE!!!

Of being a total CLOWN!!!

Hahahahaha what a total dufus!

How Scientific of You McClownage!

   EMJ

PW

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #463 on: September 28, 2020, 05:04:21 AM »
EMJ's second reply to my same post:
What a total diabolical mess of Non-Sense!

TOTALLY non scientific, total NON-Sense!

See why Picawatt can not be trusted! There is not a SINGLE bit of Scientific approach here at all!

NOTHING but diabolical Mess!

This seems to be a common theme on this Forum! Nothing but a bunch of Guessers!

Picowatt needs to be renamed to PicaGuess, or GuessaWatt

   EMJ

EMJ,

Dispassionate and objective observation is a major component of the scientific method.

PW

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« Reply #464 on: September 28, 2020, 06:09:34 AM »
In the news...
They finally got a look at donny trump's taxes and it's no wonder he was so afraid and desperate to hide them.

Turns out he is a loser and going bankrupt. Not only that but apparently he's paid almost no tax and been illegally writing off all his personal expenses as business. He would probably be homeless if he didn't give himself and his friends hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks.

Apparently the Russians and many other foreign countries and groups have also been overbooking his hotels as bribes. Oh dear it looks like dipshit donny may not get reelected, maybe going to prison instead, lol.

It also explains why he's so desperate to rig the election and the supreme court or as donny jr said...were all going to jail. What a shit show.

 

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