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Offline ramset

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #420 on: September 26, 2020, 03:46:22 PM »
Sir I never posted Captainloz work to cause turmoil or confusion, any link I copied from forum here was just for use as a generic link to https://www.youtube.com/user/Captainloz/videos
   I was surprised somebody was finally allowed to share... an incredibly simple... solid state... replication here [Never happened EVER here ...not one replication with all info for others to join in never even on original topic over the 5-6 years time  period ]this is benchmark moment !
twice the output over input is truly a miracle !!
I hope he is allowed to share further ...and perhaps get away from support equipment and Scopes.. since now the output is HUGE
 many ways to check this ...and surely run completely autonomously ...[no batteries or power supplies etc etc.

we need more allowed to share all details for replications..the world needs a breakthru...
I see Aarons forum is posting some Glass Box Bedini thing now...[I suppose I will mirror a topic here for such simple builds to see where gain is...


makes me ill actually that such "SIMPLE" things are not just data dumped [open sourced] for all to build...so many need this now more than ever... [Bedini since 1984 ??? ]

check world famine site...most posting here are not even listed [Countries ]...Also Chris uses the word "girl" as insult here [makes me ill ]
woman {and their children} globally are suffering in Famine conditions now more than ever...AND GROWING WORSE EVERY SECOND !!
we need better men to step forward ...enuff TAUNTING Children... playing games while world suffers...Posting funny pictures and Finger pointing ...while laughing and posting party Pics  and joke pics of starving children of color...calling the suffering and struggling ...DUMB and much worse...as well persons here who are unable to replicate..
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Not just one mans opinion
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #420 on: September 26, 2020, 03:46:22 PM »

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« Reply #421 on: September 26, 2020, 04:08:12 PM »



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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #422 on: September 26, 2020, 04:52:24 PM »
V8karlo
I use two supercap banks I made rated at 5 Farads /24 working volts, 30 volt max. So I know the exact input versus output with a simple calculation U=1/2CV^2. It's also easy to loop the output cap back to the input cap with a high efficiency buck converter.

So it's actually very easy to loop a circuit and I gave up on trying to use my DSO to measure complex HF waveforms years ago. It's basically a waste of time in my opinion.

Think of it this way, you could spend weeks using all kinds of expensive equipment trying to analyze input vs output. Or use two cap banks or a loop and know in minutes. So why dork around when we can know for sure in a matter of minutes?.

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Just as you, I found that best way to avoid mess is to loop,
no better way.


You can see emidiatelly everything.


Agree!


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« Reply #422 on: September 26, 2020, 04:52:24 PM »
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #423 on: September 26, 2020, 04:55:08 PM »
V8karlo,

What started this mess was a simple comment about two incandescent lamps.

Someone (EMJ or Ramset) posted a link to CaptainLoz's video #5 on the POC thread.  Having watched the video, I posted a comment on the non-moderated POC thread suggesting it was very unlikely that the two incandescent lamps being used as a load in video 5 at around 7:30 were dissipating what the scope was reading or even what the power supply readouts indicated.

I suggested connecting the lamps directly to the supply and driving them to similar brightness to see what the lamps draw, as a way to confirm measurements.

EMJ, as usual, became very defensive and argumentative and after several of posts back and forth riddled with his typical insults and trying to convince me the lamps were indeed somehow dissipating the indicated wattage, he deleted my posts. (I thought that thread was not moderated, what gives?)

In any case, shortly thereafter there was some admission of error regarding a bad probe used during that video.

So, from a simple suggestion that the lamps be connected directly to the DC supply to see what they draw at similar brightness, we have had page after page of argumentative discussion trying to bolster overunity claims with all manner of assumptions regarding the incandescent lamps, the LED bulb, the scope readings, and of course, insults and deletions. 

All that from suggesting the lamps were not dissipating the indicated wattage and that they should be connected directly to the supply for verification.

Perhaps were it CaptainLoz's thread he would have responded differently to the suggestion.  Perhaps CaptainLoz as well might have wondered if it were even possible for the lamps to dissipate that much power and connected the lamps to the supply to see what they draw.

But, it was EMJ's thread and EMJ's POC "technology", and it is EMJ that gets all defensive and insulting when anyone questions his claims of "overunity". 

I believe the advent of low cost digital scopes has led some OU researchers to inadvertently focus on connecting and tuning their circuits to cause the scope to erroneously indicate OU, which is relatively easy, and not focus on alternative measurement methods to confirm the power going to the load. 

Building a differential thermal or optical wattmeter is not that terribly difficult and could be given consideration, but there are even simpler methods within the reach of most. 

In the past we have seen lamps used as loads and low cost lux meters used to verify a circuit's output by driving the lamps to similar brightness with a DC supply as indicated by the lux meter.  If the lamp and lux meter are housed and located under fixed conditions when driven by either the circuit under test or the DC supply, a fair degree of accuracy should be achievable.  Something similar could be achieved using thermometry as well.

PW


What you are saying should be practice always.


First connect lamps directly to regulated supply,
then measure circuit and compare those two.


It is logical and beyond any doubt!


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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #424 on: September 26, 2020, 05:05:28 PM »



And for those who want to avoid simple things,

here are methods of measurements with all pitfalls,

which can, and probably will occur at some point.



Courtesy of Dr. AG.






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« Reply #424 on: September 26, 2020, 05:05:28 PM »
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #425 on: September 26, 2020, 05:36:51 PM »
V8
 Dr AG is original source of Floyd Sweet and Bucking coil info to Chris ?..and never replicated anywhere else since ? [many,many years Now ?

 is this accurate to write [aside from recent Chris hidden claims with batteries and power supplies]?
or should not be written here ?[I will remove comment ?was written here before but not sure if removed...

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #426 on: September 26, 2020, 05:41:16 PM »
V8karlo
I use two supercap banks I made rated at 5 Farads /24 working volts, 30 volt max. So I know the exact input versus output with a simple calculation U=1/2CV^2. It's also easy to loop the output cap back to the input cap with a high efficiency buck converter.

So it's actually very easy to loop a circuit and I gave up on trying to use my DSO to measure complex HF waveforms years ago. It's basically a waste of time in my opinion.

Think of it this way, you could spend weeks using all kinds of expensive equipment trying to analyze input vs output. Or use two cap banks or a loop and know in minutes. So why dork around when we can know for sure in a matter of minutes?.

Regards

Looping the device has one wonderfull thing.

Voltage from source and voltage from feedback loop will equalize,
when met together, removing all hash and leaving
only one variable to deal with
currents.
Equalization will not affect only voltage, but all kind of things,
and currents will adapt accordingly.

By observing current from source and current from feedback line,
imediatelly is seen how much is going into circuit and how much is returning
to circuit.
By comparing two currents it is easy to see real cop with more than 99% accuracy.
And there is no room for error.
And there is no need for complicated procedures.

Everything is visible at once.

To avoid overvoltage in case of overunity, simple zener to shutdown pin of
controller is sufficient to stop desaster.

This is simplified view, but more like block diagram explanation.

This method removes all unnecessary pitfalls.


Loop the device is ultimate test.




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« Reply #426 on: September 26, 2020, 05:41:16 PM »
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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #427 on: September 26, 2020, 06:46:22 PM »
V8
 Dr AG is original source of Floyd Sweet and Bucking coil info to Chris ?..and never replicated anywhere else since ? [many,many years Now ?

 is this accurate to write [aside from recent Chris hidden claims with batteries and power supplies]?
or should not be written here ?[I will remove comment ?was written here before but not sure if removed...


Yes, Chris found out from Dr. AG about bucking coils,
and material on Floyd originate from Dr. AG,
who is in Patrick Kelly book also.


Dr. AG team did extensive research on bucking coils and after
lots of time spent, and money, they gave up.


I wont go in details, but they tried everything.


That does not mean that bucking coils wont find its usage somewhere.


That means that with good funds and educated researchers they did not find
anything sifnificant!
 
In short.


Some pictures of bifilar experiments are not from Floyd as Chris claims,
but from Dr. AG team researching possible variations of bifilar and
bucking coils in order to find cause of effect from Floyd device.


Chris is mixing Floyd stuff with separate research of Dr. AG,
thinking that it all originates from Floyd.
But it isnt.



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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #428 on: September 26, 2020, 07:01:26 PM »
ONE POWER IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WHEN ELECTRICAL FREE ENERGY WILL
VERY SOON BE DISCOVERED, IT WILL BE VERY EVIDENT AND WILL NOT NEED ANY
SPECIAL MEASURING INSTRUMENT.

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #429 on: September 26, 2020, 08:20:48 PM »
  Selfrunning, YES!!!
  The rest is just an illusion... an ego jack off, you might say, for EMJ.
   But, it won't light your house, while it may be more efficient, at best. Self running, I doubt it, after all this time.   If so, let's see it. Cause, I don't believe it's worth the time of day, and months of playing games.   NEXT...  as this is just a diversion, so that someone can keep dreaming about making some money, from us "stupid guys", here.
   NickZ

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #430 on: September 26, 2020, 09:12:25 PM »
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Selfrunning, YES!!!
  The rest is just an illusion... an ego jack off, you might say, for EMJ.
   But, it won't light your house, while it may be more efficient, at best. Self running, I doubt it, after all this time.   If so, let's see it. Cause, I don't believe it's worth the time of day, and months of playing games.   NEXT...  as this is just a diversion, so that someone can keep dreaming about making some money, from us "stupid guys", here.

We should understand the difference between people gaslighting others to manipulate them and a sincere belief with honest intentions. For example many televangelists claim to believe in god yet often violate everything the belief stands for. They say one thing yet continually do the opposite proving there liars. However there are also good honest people who actually make an effort to follow there beliefs outside the context of power and greed.

The fact remains that nobody can claim to care about others and want to help them then continually gaslight and dehumanize others every chance they get...it simply does not hold water, it's a lie. 

Regards

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #431 on: September 26, 2020, 10:56:24 PM »
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You people should be ashamed of yourselves!

The world is watching, and you act like Spoiled Children in front of every one!

You most definitely are making Stefan and His Forum look like a shambles! If I was Stefan, I would ban the lot of you! What Spoiled Children! Sour Grapes, All of You!

The Original VTA Zip Files that someone released in the early days is all the information I have had, except for a Document Dump by an anonymous Source, which I promptly shared with every single Human being on the Planet: Here.

You people act like Children, all fighting over the same Ice cream! You should be ashamed of yourselves!

From today forward, I will be making CaptainLoz's Thread and all other threads related to the Technology that we have investigated and found to be beneficial, PRIVATE!

I will not be sharing any more information Here, for your benefit!

I will be going through and Deleting selective posts I think can help others progress, so they have nothing to work from!

You, here, ARE The Epitome of the Worlds Problems! Your attitudes and behavior's of Spoiled Children that deserve nothing but a Tanning from your Parents! Lying without even blinking an eyelid! So many lies from some of you! One of life's Golden Rules broken and you don't even care!

I am 100% sure, 6 - 8 of you here are Paid Disinformationalists, still, as it was in the old days! This is what Good People have to deal with! A shame!

Disgusting!

EMJ


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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #432 on: September 27, 2020, 12:14:35 AM »

You people should be ashamed of yourselves!

The world is watching, and you act like Spoiled Children in front of every one!

You most definitely are making Stefan and His Forum look like a shambles! If I was Stefan, I would ban the lot of you! What Spoiled Children! Sour Grapes, All of You!

The Original VTA Zip Files that someone released in the early days is all the information I have had, except for a Document Dump by an anonymous Source, which I promptly shared with every single Human being on the Planet: Here.

You people act like Children, all fighting over the same Ice cream! You should be ashamed of yourselves!

From today forward, I will be making CaptainLoz's Thread and all other threads related to the Technology that we have investigated and found to be beneficial, PRIVATE!

Well, CaptainLoz, do you personally agree with this? 

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I will not be sharing any more information Here, for your benefit!

For our benefit?  No, I don't think so!  It is for YOUR benefit because you can't support your claims and your action only confirms this!

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I will be going through and Deleting selective posts I think can help others progress, so they have nothing to work from!

Wow!!! Talk about childish!!  You see Chris, all you would have to do is show something but you refuse for some reason ad it appears to be that you really have nothing IMO.  You cover that fact with all the various nonsense electrical theory BS from this source and that, and basically I for one won't miss your postings. 

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You, here, ARE The Epitome of the Worlds Problems! Your attitudes and behavior's of Spoiled Children that deserve nothing but a Tanning from your Parents! Lying without even blinking an eyelid! So many lies from some of you! One of life's Golden Rules broken and you don't even care!

You need to look in the mirror my friend because all you state above fits you to a "T"!

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I am 100% sure, 6 - 8 of you here are Paid Disinformationalists, still, as it was in the old days! This is what Good People have to deal with! A shame!

There are no paid disinfo people here!  You may your brain washed followers believing that but it simply isn't true.

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Disgusting!

You got that right!!!!!  Chris, I wish you the best but honestly, you are your own worst enemy!

Pm

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Re: RANT CAFFE ASYLUM
« Reply #433 on: September 27, 2020, 12:40:59 AM »
   Did you gùys hear that? Chris will not post here again.  How sad... The asylum will never be the same...
 

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« Reply #434 on: September 27, 2020, 01:16:29 AM »
   Did you gùys hear that? Chris will not post here again.  How sad... The asylum will never be the same...
 

What?

This was last episode of this seasson?

Ooo, shame. It was so good. Like Simpsons on steroids!
Always make me laugh, very sad indeed.

 

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