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seychelles

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2020, 01:30:50 PM »
SO ARE YOU STIPULATING THAT THERE ARE THREE TRANSFORMERS.

leonelogb

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2020, 02:05:56 PM »
My friend Thank you, I thing that I got the whole idea now, I have the transformer as I told you. The hard part will be making the gap, anyway I'll try to do this today God willing. Thanks!

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2020, 11:07:20 PM »
SO ARE YOU STIPULATING THAT THERE ARE THREE TRANSFORMERS.

Hi seychelles,

Understand how it works, the principle, the method to get a result can take a few directions. In a full AC configuration two transformers could be used but these would need several windings each.

A spring loaded gap could work.

You need to be an experimenter to build anything and able to work within different disciplines.

I am not in a position to build these for others just to give an indication how it works.

all the best,

Allan


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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2020, 11:31:09 PM »
My friend Thank you, I thing that I got the whole idea now, I have the transformer as I told you. The hard part will be making the gap, anyway I'll try to do this today God willing. Thanks!

Hi leonelogb,

I have a 11Kw transformer, as new, and was thinking that a 1mm cutting disc on the outside legs may work.
First set every thing up without a gap and then make adjustments later. In theory a gap is not required but it allows some adjustments when a capacitor is involved. 

If enough energy can be summoned up to do lots of work, I would like to see if ordinary house wire would work. Leave the insulation on the individual cables and use a large core. So little is needed to get a current to flow, and the voltage should come up after a few cycles.

Another way has been seen that I will draw out, it involves two transformers only and of course the two smaller driving ones.

all the best,

Allan   


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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2020, 03:29:23 AM »
My friend, today I tried to make the circuit, but I had not time to do it with transistors (lack of time). I must do it with AC rectified and I saw some gain but not as it should be. I am going to give you the image of the circuit that I think I should do and / or did. Also, the photos of some transformers that I am using.
Thank you very much for this last diagram that you put, it looks more interesting and easier, I will do it tomorrow if God willing. Thank you for your kindness to share your knowledge and effort with us, only that since this is public, I also worry about you. Anything this is my email leonelogb@yahoo.com.


Hi leonelogb,

I have a 11Kw transformer, as new, and was thinking that a 1mm cutting disc on the outside legs may work.
First set every thing up without a gap and then make adjustments later. In theory a gap is not required but it allows some adjustments when a capacitor is involved. 

If enough energy can be summoned up to do lots of work, I would like to see if ordinary house wire would work. Leave the insulation on the individual cables and use a large core. So little is needed to get a current to flow, and the voltage should come up after a few cycles.

Another way has been seen that I will draw out, it involves two transformers only and of course the two smaller driving ones.

all the best,

Allan

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2020, 06:32:50 AM »
My friend, today I tried to make the circuit, but I had not time to do it with transistors (lack of time). I must do it with AC rectified and I saw some gain but not as it should be. I am going to give you the image of the circuit that I think I should do and / or did. Also, the photos of some transformers that I am using.
Thank you very much for this last diagram that you put, it looks more interesting and easier, I will do it tomorrow if God willing. Thank you for your kindness to share your knowledge and effort with us, only that since this is public, I also worry about you. Anything this is my email leonelogb@yahoo.com.

Hi leonelogb,

The transformers are a good size but there will be too many turns on them, for our first try the transformer on the last one of your pictures is probably best. They actually need a tapping of 15% turns on each winding but we will make do at the moment.

Two 50 volt outputs or close would be better and 15% extra turns on each would need to be put on the transformer. Even a smaller transformer for a first try. A transformer with two 15v and a 12v tapping, windings would work.

--A gap in the core allows a greater current to build in the same time.--

Keep everything away from mains power, please. Only very small voltages are required because it involves a floating supply of between 6volt and 12 volt  on the two windings, depending on resistance.

The following is an example only, the power supply is not complete.
There are two windings shown H1,H2  and H3,H4. Connect H1 to H3 and leave the other two H2 and H4 unconnected. What is the resistance in ohms?
You will need a resistor to limit the current, work it out.
12 volts will be placed on H4 and -ve on H2, with a current flowing there will be no magnetic effect, no flux in the core. If a capacitor is attached to H1,H3 and a short 30 volt +ve pulse in a circuit with negative battery and then -ve pulse in a circuit with positive there will be first an increase of current in one winding and then an increase in the other.
The pulse will be swapped to each winding in turn so that the winding that had more current will become less and vice versa. With DC the flux will make a full change of polarity just by increasing and decreasing currents in turn.

The idea is to swap the currents between uneven turns of about 15% on each side.
There is another slightly smaller transformer to wind, there will be two pairs of wires. 

This transformer is only about a 1/4 of the project, so be patient.

This will take a little while to work out so do not stress.

Regards,

Allan

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2020, 10:58:15 AM »
Hi Allen,
Thanks, I am not stressed at all, I am excited and I can do this first part of course. I only wish two things;
a) understand the concepts clearly.
b) At least make 80 watt out transform with 1/2500 gain.  ;D ;D
« Last Edit: September 09, 2020, 01:57:14 PM by leonelogb »

Jeg

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2020, 01:08:21 PM »

The following is an example only, the power supply is not complete.
There are two windings shown H1,H2  and H3,H4. Connect H1 to H3 and leave the other two H2 and H4 unconnected.

Hi Allan
Looks like you forgot to attach the drawing?!

In general, thanks a lot for sharing this technique. Looks very interesting and for sure this will be my next project. I read again and again your posts in a hope to understand your points. I think i'll use yoke cores and higher frequencies as it is very easy to make the gap at will. Keep it up and thanks again.

Regards

EDIT: Just saw that you were referencing to the above picture.

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2020, 02:05:42 PM »

Fernandez in other thread, He teach something similar, check it.
https://overunity.com/17535/kapanadze-stepanov-barbosa-leal-and-the-secret-of-free-energy/msg517669/#msg517669

Thanks for bringing this. I think of the same. They probably both speak about the same effect. Two coils on same core, magnetic field opposition, one direction, sinus waves with phase shift in between them, periodically one coil pushes more than the other, always opposing magnetic poles. Allan gives some more insight and explanation, filling the missing links. I wonder if software which show the development of flux inside a core would be able to represent this effect.

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2020, 02:20:21 PM »
Hi Jeg, you are welcome and Thanks to Allen,  He is the one who will take us to the other level 8)

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2020, 03:11:11 PM »
Thanks Leon
Here is a link showing the relation between flux, current and voltage.
http://www.vias.org/matsch_capmag/matsch_caps_magnetics_chap5_02.html

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2020, 10:57:04 PM »
Hi Allen,
Thanks, I am not stressed at all, I am excited and I can do this first part of course. I only wish two things;
a) understand the concepts clearly.
b) At least make 80 watt out transform with 1/2500 gain.  ;D ;D

Hi,

The main point is that there is a tendency to use a sledge hammer to drive in a pin.

When one input winding has a capacitor and the other is the load a current is set to go. It only takes the smallest, the tiniest current change in one semi cycle to increase the flux in the link and change its polarity, and correctly applied, to get the swings of voltage.

The 80 watt example is used because by the power meter that is how much my house uses. It is convenient to take power because it costs $20/ month + $10 line charges, but sometimes there are power cuts up to four days when there is storm damage.
A welder can use 7Kw and starting electric motors 5x or more of the full load current. But these are not used that much.
Water heating and space heating are the problem and either alternate methods or a big FE device is required.
 
To build anything to produce a large amount of power is expensive, time wise and materials of course.

All the best,

Allan
   



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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2020, 11:23:00 PM »
Hi Allan
Looks like you forgot to attach the drawing?!

In general, thanks a lot for sharing this technique. Looks very interesting and for sure this will be my next project. I read again and again your posts in a hope to understand your points. I think i'll use yoke cores and higher frequencies as it is very easy to make the gap at will. Keep it up and thanks again.

Regards

EDIT: Just saw that you were referencing to the above picture.

Hi Jeg,

Yes, that transformer with the number of turns would produce too much voltage and would need 15% more turns on each winding. Another transformer is used to drive the currents and allow them to go in the opposite direction as well.
A high voltage could be stepped down through another transformer, but it all ends up a big heavy construction.

If higher frequencies are used, a good out put probably 1Kw could be developed in a really small device.

With the work that has been done on this technology it indicates that the heating effect from transmitted high frequencies is just one more thing that is driving atmospheric warming of water vapor. It is regarded as non ionizing radiation while the sun ionizes.
FE indicates that only a small energy input can drive big changes, big swings in potential.

There are a few points that have taken some time for me to establish but are actually obvious. Blind spots can develop. The biggest problem is to focus for long enough with out distractions, to get the project done.

There have been many different parameters worked through.

All the best,

Allan

 

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2020, 12:17:58 AM »
Thanks for bringing this. I think of the same. They probably both speak about the same effect. Two coils on same core, magnetic field opposition, one direction, sinus waves with phase shift in between them, periodically one coil pushes more than the other, always opposing magnetic poles. Allan gives some more insight and explanation, filling the missing links. I wonder if software which show the development of flux inside a core would be able to represent this effect.

Hi Jeg,

A square wave is okay but keep the voltage low do not over drive.

All the best,

Allan

In 1978 quite a few ideas occurred and I took an electronic course. The tutor while talking about transformers mentioned the fact that the link and the flux was almost nothing. He said he could not understand it completely. That comment has stuck in my mind always.
In 1982 I almost had the transformer problem beaten but was doing several projects at once. Of course everything becomes under resourced.

Software mostly does not consider such a small amount and text books say that it is not considered in calculations for transformer and coil design. With construction there is a 10% over wind on the output as the current dampens the flux.

When a transformer is overloaded and the input voltage increased, this is where the oscilloscope can show some clues. But it depends on interpretation and what is being looked for.

It could be a program would only need some adjustment. It is not necessary for me at this stage.

The events are indicating that survival mode may be looming. Lets not go back to the stone age. Get the project done.



   

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Re: Alan's Transformer as a Generator
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2020, 01:00:08 AM »
Thanks Leon
Here is a link showing the relation between flux, current and voltage.
http://www.vias.org/matsch_capmag/matsch_caps_magnetics_chap5_02.html

Hi Jeg,

It is best to only concentrate on the link and the flux because for in transformer power and size calculations it is not considered.

The magnetizing current could be 15% of the load but as was explained previously not all that current is used to make the flux.
With 240volts, in one instant only wire resistance is seen and then in another instant to create opposing flux that is 80% on the way to saturation of the core.
The magnetizing current is 90degrees out of phase with the reflected load current and by vectors the sum of the two add to very little more than the load current alone.

When the Flux is generated by a floating supply between the I/P and O/P windings it becomes a generator. The capacitor input produces the swings of potential that are reflected in the output as well.

In a generator it is the rate of change of the magnetic field and the strength of that field that gives the output. It is just being done in two coils at once while their magnetic fields cancel at maximum current.

Calculations can be used to size but it has to be determined how much extra flux is acceptable at a certain frequency. The core material may get too hot and at high frequency be destroyed.

The flux increase could be up to four times increased and would mean less turns, less heat in the windings but more in the core.

Regards,

Allan