http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panemone#Efficiency

The panemone is one of the least efficient types of wind turbine.

   If you dont mind the howl a bit, I have two F&P motors and both do a fine job of generating power. One is wound with #18 and makes good amps. They are common now in washing machines too. Even if you have to rewind them, a deal.

thay

LancaIV,
do you know this turbine here by Mike waters ?
http://rexresearch.com/waterswind/waters.html
I reccommend his presentation ( 59 min), dated 2014  if you have the time. He is a character and a funny guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp1wPwszF9M
There are some replicatinions I guess ( have to look them up myself ).
Funny one here, a bit shaky : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0quZDdN53M
and here more professional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_hSOutOOiI
Mike

Yes Michael,  you delivered me/ us this info several years before. !
It was related the Fanerator and better fan  ! https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318

The Waters concept shall be 122 times better than conventional blades aerogenerators and this means thatthe average speed and conversion vx3 is in average 5 times higher.


Idea  for 24/365 shaft rotation energy explore :

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9374

          for no/low wind situation this transmission coupled to the shaft
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950803&CC=DE&NR=4402337A1&KC=A1#

+. transmission gear motors energy source

During daily natural sunlight : un-/ concentrated solar cells

or

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900201&CC=DE&NR=3817730A1&KC=A1#
or
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19831209&CC=FR&NR=2528257A1&KC=A1#

All this ideas are now - 2019- open source and fee/ licence free



Doubling the generator output ( for the Wind Pillars or Waters Wind cage concept, fuel gensets et cet. )
https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2748183A1

Alternatively : Wind generator +
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=12841

Looking to the above scheme and remembering :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2009079393A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20090326&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
+ Wind generator charges battery( with-/out transmission gear Motors)

+ Solar cells charges battery
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20100615&CC=ES&NR=2341161A1&KC=A1#

From inverter output amplification by :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190207&CC=JP&NR=2019022271A&KC=A#

or
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462
 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oFKDFd-bSa8
Estimated 700 - 800 KWh Wind electricity gain per annum  : ~ 100 Wh per hour constant
        Price : 9800 Euros + up to 2500 Euros installation
                                               Economic worth ? 

                                                     100 Euros. ?
Can an 100 W per hour constant electricity conversion system costs ( less)  than 100 Euros 2019  ?
                                         1 Wpermanent/1 Euro challenge

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900201&CC=DE&NR=3817730A1&KC=A1#
            1989 : average solar cell efficiency  5%

http://www.buch-der-synergie.de/c_neu_html/c_04_11_sonne_verstaerkungstechnik.htm#Spiegel
                       Reflector use as solar/artificial light concentrator

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=De&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Paul+marzahn&IN=&CPC=&IC=
                Artifical light conversion with reflector use,  5,25 % solar cell efficiency

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20100615&CC=ES&NR=2341161A1&KC=A1#
              Artificial light conversion without reflector, solar cell efficiency 10%

                                 ( 240 W/1,8sqm  / 1333 W solar constant = 10% Wp conversion eff.)


Bernd Koehler : ( 35 Watt fluorescent lamp x ? lumen) x 0,0525 ( = 5,25% efficiency cell)

                               +- 1330 Watt-lumen x 0,0525  ~ 70 Watt conversion

                                   The lux/ lumen formula is based by FIXED 1 meter distance !
                          50 cm,25 cm, 10 cm distance light emission( nm ,frequency,color ) effect  ?                                                                                                   
       
                                                               FLUX AMPLIFICATION

2019 : 15% solar cell efficiency average,  2020: 20% efficiency average

1989 : fluorescent lamp efficiency?  Common optimization up to 2019  -30% electricity consume by same lumen           
                                      Perfection : with-/ out controler
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19911001&CC=US&NR=5053933A&KC=A#

A  little more than 100 lm/Watt for fluorescent lamps reachable !
Total system perfection would be based by photon and phonon conversion :
https://www.greenoptimistic.com/green-ferrite-solar-cell-japan-20110920/

From Wind mill  to wind- ing generator. :
Generator
https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2748183A1
+Motor-couple
 https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-plane
1 KW mechanical output : 0,9 (  0,9 ~ 90% for conventional e- motor efficiency) ~ 1100 W electric input the Catalan motor needs 1/2 the electric input compared with conventional e- motors : 550 W e- input

1 KW mechanical e- motor output x 0,9 ( 90% efficiency for conventional e-generators) ~ 900 W electric output the Hara generator doubles the electric output = 1800 W electric output

Input/ Output calculation Hara-Catalan- couple :
550 W in and 1800 W out , in one year 4.821 KWh input and 15.778 KWh output :

                                                                      C.O.P. 3,27
So we have in future several solution for energy exploration :Wind ( with/- out motor assist) Solar ( un/- concentrated) and static or rotative kineto-electric force amplifier
( Hey ramset/Chet,  did you get some results about " 1/3 output improvement by generator coil coating " ?  )
                                                                      C.O.P. 3,27 x 1,333( Periode ) ~ 4,36   

Instead  up to 10000 US$ only 750 US$ for a small wind turbine :
https://www.1millionwomen.com.au/blog/low-cost-wind-turbine-power-entire-house-lifetime-starts-selling-india/

Wind energy conversion now in the 2 US$cents/KWh(included subsidies) / 5 US$cents/KWh( excluded) purchase range:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/wind-energy-is-one-of-the-cheapest-sources-of-electricity-and-its-getting-cheaper/

                                So a 2 US$cents/KWh conversion concept -without subsidy -

                                                       and including subsidy means :                                                                   
                                                                    0 US$cent/KWh

Israel "Airpower " electricity production costs for their 24/365 " 10 KW wind chamber" 3,4 US$cents/KWh,
now without patent and ownership restrictions to built for 2 US$cents/KWh and less conditioning.

Similar " energy converter" planned by aveuropa.net-group : 1 US$cent/KWh production costs
                                                             
                           

                                                                         wind force to gas/ liquid

http://www.dotyenergy.com/
What is the rest costs calculation for 0 US$cent/KWh electricity use and 0 US$/ ton. CO2 costs( reuse costs compensation by CO2- certificate paying consumer/user) for a moveable syngas/fuel production plant , installed beside CO2 delivering pipeline  ?               
                                   40 US$/barris(barrel, barril, Fass a 159 Liter)

Can this  "wind syn/gas-fuel " become cracked up to 8 times by this process:
                                          1 part synfuel/7 parts hydrogen synthese
                                   https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2859958A1/sv                                 
                                                                      Liquid Wind
                                             < 20,0 US$/barrel CO2-neutral syn-crack fuel                                   
                                                   0,5 US$/gal.

Impossible  ?                             SYNTROLEUM announced 19 US$/bbl synfuel price
                                                 https://www.dieselnet.com/tech/fuel_syn.php                                       

                                                  Table1                        0,5 US$/ 1 mmbtu natural gas

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324141540_Shale_gas_production_costs_Historical_developments_and_outlook
                                                              shale gas 2,5 US$/ mmbtu +

          What is cheaper :  1 mmbtu shale gas or David Judbarovski 0,1 US$/gal. hydrogen ?
           250 US$cents/ 293 KWh shale gas price or 10 US$cents/37,58 KWh " solar/wind" hydrogen ?

                    Which energy kind becomes more expensive because carbon-credit tax ?

                                  dry grassland- instead firing- to bio-syn-crack gas/fuel  ?
                         https://www.google.com/search?q=cool+planet+fuel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

                                 https://patents.google.com/patent/EP0078799A1/en                                       

                                               What is here the "kick-factor" ?                   

                            1 Liter bio syn-crack fuel in - and much more calories out. ?               

                                                     Fusion reactor principle