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Author Topic: Pandemic - Run the virus through the community during the summer, instead of  (Read 7731 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Good Morning,
related ' .... any idea/-s......' to 'Pandemia - running the virus through the community ....'

a. each kind of viruses  and virons/virions ?
b. running out the community ....... : care,cure

The overunity.com forum is not only actuall communication/conversation ,its function is also archive and enderess-book ( I see it so )

F.e.

" community " - virtual buton                " help"-virtual buton                   " search "  virtual buton  ( buton,button !)

section : Alternative medicine ,overall view specific

Search : Robert C. Beck 'blood zapper ' ,pro -/anti - biotic/virional  !? Anti-Covid 19 ?

Then : searchmachines out of overunity.com information



Bio-Energy  Bio-energetics  Bio-electrification ( not AC 'e-chair'-like !? )
hydrolysis blood-wash : lymphs / lymphatic drainage            ,dialyse/dialysis  kidney-supra/sub-function




Serious,effects- in-/directly,safe,dose per day ?!  With professionals help/controle/partnering  !?

Chance/risc worth !




Then : asking Beck'zapper-device experimenter about results !

Medical/health sector professionals ,scientists ,animators,amateurs ' in work and testing' !?

The keelynet,Jerry Decker device

rexresearch : health treatment /devicesf.e.

Rife beam ray machine

In list/not :

Dr.Kazumi Masaki,JP,  www.genilax.com     espacenet  : advanced search applicant Ken Hayashibara inventor




Working together and not by hour 0:00
Not idea only ,but status quo mind and medical standart


Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.:2007 in OPorto,POR,Rua de Alegria, www.hidrolinfa.pt  machine construction/montage by a later Lda.-partner
         Another later Lda.-partner,from this 'company' ,saw and bought in a Portuense public flea market an old
         medical(psychological ?) treatment device from the 20' ,last century,developped by a french !
        100 € devices,sells/sold for 1500 € ,MLM !

p.s.II : Psychology-Methodics : vibrations -errections-feelings =

                                                     UR-SCHEI /CRY/SHOUT   ( the primal scream )
           semper depressed,silent, becomes illness : where loudness possible,instinct firing out :

                                                                    Anti-Stress Parcs (  free mind gymnastics)  !

          Youtube YEL-YEL PRASPA  :( Stolen ?  ;) HAKA (war dance/interpretation) ,Maori


                                                               HAKA2020-Style- LET IT OUT Parcs
                       Or : MyHAKA2020 - Soundproof - Cabins   Shout yourself : FREE !
                      Break-Dance Yourself : Free !

                     Some are doing here ' pantomimic' HAKA2005+  8) ,gives 'Good,(godly), vibrations !

                    youtube : semi-organized HAKA 'Flashmob
                   f.e. Hamburg singt - Groesster Flashmob Deutschlands


                  Open Air Events,Fest-ivals ( old peoples's home Flashmob,hospitals,funerals,...... )

                FlashMob
                VoiceMob

               WhistleMob    whistle = Trillerpfeife   and blow ! On my key ring : by-gadget


Is it better to be a Trill-er or a Twit-ter ?  8) Monty Python Flying Circus ' Upper Class Twit of the Year '  ;)
I like more trilling,eventually with Jod SL Koernern for Vita-Kraft
« Last Edit: November 29, 2020, 06:06:36 PM by lancaIV »

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If a theoretical reason that governments would be worried about doing this  'Running The Virus Through The Community'  plan,  would be that they may be legally liable for deaths due to intentionally exposing people to the virus,  then that argument would have pretty much no basis,  because,    at the moment in many countries, when the numbers of infected and in hospital start to decrease to low enough levels,  the governments  re-open  bars and restaurants to run the virus through more of the community,  and  there's  no  chance  of  suing  the  government  because you walked past a bar of sprinkler-mouths none of which are required to wear masks, and you're sure thats the only way you got infected ( when you walk past them you're often literally within centimeters of them ).
(  Also, at the moment people just stand in front of bars etc without ordering anything, pretending to be part of a group etc, just to stand there without having to wear a mask, or they walk around with a drink bottle that there not actually drinking, or food item,  or hold a cigarette,  all just to not have to wear a mask,  many chatting quite vividly and potentially infecting anyone that has to walk past them on narrow footpaths,  and in those situations there is also no chance of suing the government for negligence   )

My Previous Post Was The Following -
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    - I noticed a detail that I forgot on my  'Run the virus through the community' model,  that is that many of the  'vulnerable to the virus age group people'  do live with their family which are often people under 50,  however, I assume that services or protocols could be provided so that the  'vulnerable to the virus age group people'  could be shielded from the virus,  although,  I'm obviously no expert or anything.

I recently realized an obvious option, for the weak point in my  'Run The Virus Through The Community' Model,  which is in the quote above .
   The obvious option, would be to temporarily put  'Those Vulnerable To The Virus'( With One Carer ) who live with their family/relatives,  into community-sports-facilities, universities, schools etc,  which would not be used while 'Running The Virus Through The Community'.
       NOTE - In the paragraph above, I typed ( With One Carer ), if desired, so that would make that detail more acceptable .
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If anyone else, groups or individuals, have published / raised this idea ( like my idea ) against the virus, it would be very interesting to see the details / model they have.   And obviously,  if any of them have actual relevant qualifications etc, then it would also be interesting to see their plan.
   Crunching the numbers, it just seems that this idea of  'Running The Virus Through The Community', I have detailed in this thread, just seems much better than the current strategies, much less people dying, much less time wasted,  much less damage to communities etc.
   If anyone knows of a similar idea, by any groups or individuals, then please post links so people can examine them .
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The best indicator of at what stage the virus is in each country,  would be the percentage of the population for each country,  that have antibodies ( immunity ? ).
Even though it seems people can ? possibly be reinfected ( like the common cold, flu's , etc ? ),  and, of course it seems people will need booster shots .

   Does anyone know of any websites that show the current percentage of the population for each country ( or for any countries ),  that have antibodies ( immunity ? )  ?

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https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.spektrum.de/news/vogelgrippe-das-naechste-pandemievirus-ist-vielleicht-schon-da/1875904

Last autumn, two dozen experts from the World Biodiversity Council (IPBES) compiled the latest scientific knowledge about such pathogens in a report. The scientists estimate the potential for new global epidemics to be immense. The IPBES researchers believe that of the 1.7 million so far undiscovered viruses in host animals such as birds and mammals, between half a million and 850,000 viruses have a pandemic potential.

Who wants a save bulletproff investment should buy for his "generation next" pharmaceutical industry shares/funds

Offline onepower

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If a theoretical reason that governments would be worried about doing this  'Running The Virus Through The Community'  plan,  would be that they may be legally liable for deaths due to intentionally exposing people to the virus,  then that argument would have pretty much no basis,  because,    at the moment in many countries, when the numbers of infected and in hospital start to decrease to low enough levels,  the governments  re-open  bars and restaurants to run the virus through more of the community,  and  there's  no  chance  of  suing  the  government  because you walked past a bar of sprinkler-mouths none of which are required to wear masks, and you're sure thats the only way you got infected ( when you walk past them you're often literally within centimeters of them ).

My theory is pretty common sense...
Not the government nor the medical community can know whether Covid would kill me within days or simply cause flu like symptoms. Thus the onus was on me to take precautions or suffer the consequences of my own ignorance. So I did take precautions and followed the recommendations of the health care professionals. Just recently I got the Pfizer vaccination with no issues other than a sore arm that night and after the next shot I should be good to go. I'm still alive so... my theory has some justification.

My point is that it was always on us as individuals to make responsible choices not the government or the community.

In the big picture, following logic and reason, letting a virus run wild in a community is stupid. It's like saying were supposed to be intelligent and act in our best interests but were going to act like it's the dark ages instead. I mean in the dark ages they had no choice because they were ignorant to all the knowledge and understanding we have today, they had an excuse. So if other people want to run in front of a bus, do crystal meth or ignore there doctors advice on Covid then it's really not my problem.

This may help put it in perspective... George Carlin
-“The planet is fine. The people are fucked.”
-“Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.”
-“That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
-“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”
-“Religion is like a pair of shoes.....Find one that fits for you, but don't make me wear your shoes.”
-“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
-“He - and if there is a God, I am convinced he is a he, because no woman could or would ever fuck things up this badly.”
-“I don't have pet peeves - I have major psychotic fucking hatreds.”

To recap, if your depending on the intelligence of the government, the community or most other mindless groups for guidance... your going to be disappointed.

Regards
AC

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My point is that it was always on us as individuals to make responsible choices not the government or the community.

The responsible choice might be clear or known to an individual, but the individual might no be able to make that choice.
Imagine you are 60 years old and you do not want to go to work as a waiter in a restaurant, because you do not want to get Covid. That would be the case in any work situation where you have to be in close contact with other people.
Only people with savings or an income from investments have the choice to stay home. Therefore, most of the people need the government to make rules that protect them from infection, like "work from home" or "protective equipment at the workplace" or "closing restaurants, cinemas and so on, with compensation for the work force".
So, being responsible for yourself is nice, but are you in the position to be responsible?
In Austria the government did many things wrong, but overall the measures were not so bad, only 10.000 from 9 Million were lost to Covid. In many countries the government did much worse, like in the US and in Great Britain.
People who like to talk about personal freedom and personal choice do not like to talk about "who does really have freedom and a choice".
It is easy to want freedom and personal choice, but for most people there practically is no freedom and choice because of their financial situation.
Freedom and personal choice are theoretical concepts not applicable to real life situations. In real life you need a government stepping in, or people die a lot. You personally may accept heavy loss of live in the name of freedom or personal choice, I do not.

Greetings, Conrad

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It is easy to want freedom and personal choice, but for most people there practically is no freedom and choice because of their financial situation.
Freedom and personal choice are theoretical concepts not applicable to real life situations. In real life you need a government stepping in, or people die a lot. You personally may accept heavy loss of live in the name of freedom or personal choice, I do not.

Not long ago many considered Covid a hoax because the government at the time lied to them, some still believe it today.

“I have noticed that even those who assert that everything is predestined and that we can change nothing about it still look both ways before they cross the street.”
― Stephen Hawking

Like Hawking's quote, I noticed many who were complaining the loudest calling Covid a hoax also wore a mask and got vaccinated. So as Hawking points out the truth is determined by proof and action not false rhetoric. If people actually believed Covid was a hoax then why did they take precautions and get vaccinated?. No offense but we cannot trust anyone who continually says one thing but does the opposite.

If nothing else Covid taught us that governments cannot be trusted because they are controlled by people who cannot be trusted.

Regards
AC

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In the hungarian parliament was(is ?) an ultra-nationalist, anti-jewish his "ideo-!?-logical view !


He did not know it,but found later that he has "jewish" ancestors !


He accepts it,but stays political anti-jewish !(was his statement anno 20??)


Anti-NaZi : Anti-National-Socialism  or Anti-Na(tional)-Zi(onism) ::)


Everywhere we find pro-/contra positions,by CORONA we have a problem : invisible/non detectable illness ! (and clearly = superspreader)


Not knowing to be ill but other infecting : legal position !? Complicated ! For pro-/contra judges ! 8) 


Written law and order or ideologic view : decision base ? Over all instances ?




Sincere


OCWL




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The Corona virus is very easy to understand...it's a virus.

The only thing new about it is the fact most have never seen a virus like this in there lifetime. However life is short and this probably won't be the last virus we see with the way were going. Most mass producers, factory farms, large mixed markets and other large industries are a cesspool designed to breed new viruses.

As many people in more civilized countries claim, they wouldn't feed mass produced American or Chinese food to there dog because that would cruel. I got food poisoning from McDonalds twice before I swore I would never eat that rotten swill again.

Regards
AC

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yclewsDdjwY


btw.: I jobbed in the 80´ for McDonalds,Munich/BY/GER, front-/back service


but also : Zyma(Ciba-Geigy before name change,+ Sandoz =Novartis),Pharmacy


             

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I can’t stop


Cheap and fast ... after first few poisonings
You develop immunity


Some here trade in cheeseburgers ( type of early currency (“Mc bit Coin”




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Rotten meat is sterilized by cooking but this doesn't do much for the smell,
ammonia does though.
           and come on ....
what does a little pink slime mixed into the beef slurry matter any way and
it's still 100% beef.
                                      ...   sarcasm   ...

https://www.livescience.com/33786-pink-slime.html
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
New meaning to the phrase meat plant (the product, not the location) ..

Genetically modified chickens.  No beaks, no necks, no feathers no feat,
 no -> xes <- organs, no eyes. It's wasteful to feed these parts.

note...  soft ware won't allow the phrase xes organs if the word xes if spelled in
reverse (that's  pathetic).

Tiny barb holds the feeding tube in the "throat" while the "bird" is pinned / mounted
upon a wire frame. Tube at other end efficiently removes waste.

Optional, all wings, all thighs or drumsticks and up to 4 pairs per chicken.

Electric stimulation replaces exercise.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Not a future I want to see nor help build.



 



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 ::)  good prophecy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpMfopVEJE Bon appetito ! Idem artificial pizza,....


                                    enough ?


     it is coming better


     https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.apotheken-umschau.de/gesund-bleiben/sport-und-bewegung/ems-fit-durch-elektrische-muskelstimulation-713567.html


                                 Muscles from the socket? How long for Mr.Universum Schwarzenegger level ?


         20 minutes of training once or twice a week should be enough to train the muscles.


                                             :o  how much time we win


                                 anymore going out with the dog(rain,snow,storm,...) :  dog-EMS

                                 but good dog in-house behaviour coaching : https://img.myloview.de/poster/hund-auf-wc-sitz-400-53270312.jpg


                                                                     anti-fat-EMS ?

                                 "Brain"  from the socket ? Who still needs these days  " brain" ? ;D 


                                 We do not need " no education ",we do not need " no thought controle ",


                                  no dark sarcasm in the classroom,hey teachers let us kids alone


                                 with our teaching neurophone ;) 


                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG1fgCHvDNQ

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I just hope they don't sell the baby chicks at the farm and feed stores
around Easter.  But thankfully we can't use the phrase s3x organs.

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     fff is a. Friday for Future and b. Fit for Future


    As (mortal )man I look not for https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_von_Willendorf


                                                  but


                                   https://www.gottwein.de/imag02/bottic02.jpg


                                             alike, as anonymous example,


       https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs22597590/3122798255-w0-h0/imago0108933359h.jpg

       https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C3%2584sthetik
                                 
       https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%25C3%25B6rperwelten


        https://apps-cloud.n-tv.de/img/22575180-1621945554000/16-9/1136/2021-05-12T100047Z-1893904946-RC2MJD9CTF1F-RTRMADP-3-MOROCCO-SURFING.jpg

      Sometimes it is better off-line surfing than online-surfing ! Feed-back !


      And the "Kick" against "waves" their forces and stream direction ! And "self" body,mind and soul refinding







     Old and fat becoming men,male and female,will need and use EMS ,to survive our "cruel " -Fountain of Youth- society !




                                                  The pandemic virus "cocooning" including !


   Why cocooning : BENCHMARK IS THE TOP (-LESS)


 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKallistik&sandbox=1