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Author Topic: "Magnet shear to direct pull work ratio"  (Read 15071 times)


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Re: "Magnet shear to direct pull work ratio"
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2022, 04:37:35 PM »
@ Synchro 1


@ all readers please see the Synchro 1 / previous post .
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It is well documented...

although perhaps not all that well know, that the work available is not
equal in all the various and possible directions of motion, between any given
two magnets.

If one of the magnets within a device can escape or nearly escape the field of
attraction along a vector in which there is less force per distance, than is
available within some other vector in which that magnet re approaches,
then you have a net gain in mechanical work. 

The magnet must be re positioned while it is outside of or nearly outside of the
attracting field and / or, along a direction which is at a right angle to the direction
of the attracting force.

That this can result in a net gain in work done by magnets, needs to be well
documented.  I don't think my own examination here, can serve as a proof
which should invalidate the design. Only that in the      variation   which I
presented, results are at best marginal.

          best wishes
« Last Edit: January 10, 2022, 12:37:04 AM by Floor »

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Re: "Magnet shear to direct pull work ratio"
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2022, 12:42:30 AM »

Thanks for the great data here..  I will be reviewing it many many times as I dig into this..

I am going to do some real world tests with these concepts.  I have printed my first test pieces..  These tests I will do will be measuring input strengths, then seeing if the force is amplified through the use of sliding magnets.

My data may not be as calibrated or scientific as yours, but hopefully they will add something useful.

The first test will be like a vertical see-saw.  (I am sure there is a better name)..  An actuator will slide to attract and repel magnets mounted on one side of the bearing mounted see-saw.  I will measure the strength force of the actuator, alone-  then compare it to the opposite end of the see-saw after the magnetic works happen.

Would it be acceptable to post results in this same thread?

Thanks again


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Re: "Magnet shear to direct pull work ratio"
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2022, 01:01:28 AM »
@ Thanks

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