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Title: gravity engine
Post by: gaby de wilde on December 30, 2006, 06:39:58 PM
Hello,

I've just drawn-up this idea.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/gravity-engine

(http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/gravity-engine-beta.jpg/gravity-engine-beta-large;crop:0,0.01,0.99,0.99.jpg)

Title: Re: gravity engine
Post by: iacob alex on January 02, 2007, 08:32:19 PM
Hi Gabi!A Happy New Year 2007!..in Holland,also.Only one question:how emerged the idea-image of your drawing?Usually the inspiration lives in a kind of fog,mental cloud ready to appear in some way to the day light.So,about the first lines that you had into your mind...it can be fun and instructive for people.All the Bests!/Alex
Title: Re: gravity engine
Post by: wattsup on January 03, 2007, 01:59:11 AM
Happy New Year 2007 to All. May all your overunity come true.

Gaby, I looked over your design and can from the outset say it will never move.

As the wheel tries to turn clockwise, the top blue shaft pushes down the left side of  the right black box, pushing up the right side of the right black box, while also pushing the right black box away. At the same moment it must pull up the left black box and have it slide on the piston shaft. There is no way this is possible since both sides of the wheel are asked to lift at the same time. The system will just sit there forever, making it a perpetual non-motion unit.

But as Alex said, the idea and the birth of the idea are what is also very important confirming that our mind is always in activity, regardless of the outcome, our imagination pushes us to conceive endlessly and sometimes, something changes the world. Keep on.
Title: Re: gravity engine
Post by: gaby de wilde on January 04, 2007, 09:10:48 AM
a good year to you to.

Only one question:how emerged the idea-image of your drawing?

There are a lot of ideas in this idea. To mention one,

We pretend to know perpetual motion is impossible for over 300 years now. But we don't appreciate how hard it is to put effort in something impossible by definition. No-one outside the hobby sector really looked, we didn't look for 300 years, that's what happened. lol

I feel we should discuss ideas that obviously do not work. Then we can get passed endless repeating "it doesn't work, it doesn't work".

The question isn't really "do you think this would work?", rather "how would we improve the current design?". Then "it doesn't work" becomes "mine doesn't work" and we question our effort and appreciate the previous art.

Another idea here is that you can put stuff in the public domain to protect it from patenting. But you don't have to put it in the domain is such a way that people take it seriously. ;D It's very hard to separate them from thought experiments. So, even in the public domain an invention can be protected. Just bury it in nonsense, it has to be credible nonsense but that cant be hard for an inventor. I even think the nonsense could be valuable. One man's trash is another man's treasure. lol

I've seen people do amazing things with ideas of mind that I didn't think much of.

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Usually the inspiration lives in a kind of fog,mental cloud ready to appear in some way to the day light.

I have no idea how thoughts work. But I do know it can be helpful to visualise them. They seem to like being documented. hehehe

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So,about the first lines that you had into your mind...it can be fun and instructive for people.All the Bests!/Alex

balance and leverage. From the 2 stage mechanical oscillator.

Milkovic has interesting questions arise from his research. He briefly shows an image with 2 sprockets and explains how energy is destroyed in this configuration.

It's possible to do work on a mass and extract energy from that mass but have energy losses that are reverse proportional to the energy lead out. It's very "wooo hoooo" to me. ;D

If you would stop the lever in his machine entirely the pendulum would conserve it's energy.

a bit like a mechanical super conductor :)

There could be a configuration like Steorn's LEMA. The LEMA moves 1 magnet away from the shield and 1 magnet towards the shield at the same time. No energy is used but the field appears and disappears at the same time.

Which gives me a kind of "ah - haa" on this one...
http://rexresearch.com/ecklin/ecklin.htm

So, (back to my engine) why not move a load onto one lever while we remove it from another?

I don't see the problem? ;D

Could also fit the LEMA on the lever of the gravity engine.
Title: Re: gravity engine
Post by: gaby de wilde on January 04, 2007, 09:23:25 AM
Happy New Year 2007 to All. May all your overunity come true.

Gaby, I looked over your design and can from the outset say it will never move.

As the wheel tries to turn clockwise, the top blue shaft pushes down the left side of  the right black box, pushing up the right side of the right black box, while also pushing the right black box away. At the same moment it must pull up the left black box and have it slide on the piston shaft. There is no way this is possible since both sides of the wheel are asked to lift at the same time.

Both arms are attached at different angels to the axle. The swinging weight is pushed to the right, the balance is disturbed, then the weight at the left pushes the axle for the next swing.

The idea is that the weights can be big but don't have to cost a lot of energy to be moved horizontally.

The energy that is used to push the weight out of balance will also partially return when it swings back.

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The system will just sit there forever, making it a perpetual non-motion unit.But as Alex said, the idea and the birth of the idea are what is also very important confirming that our mind is always in activity, regardless of the outcome, our imagination pushes us to conceive endlessly and sometimes, something changes the world. Keep on.

It works perfectly,
it has moved it-self into people's imagination and is now reassembling it-self in an infinite number of configurations. As it's doing things beyond our wildest imagination the miracles will soon happen. :)

After all, magic is merely a choice of words.
Title: Re: gravity engine
Post by: raburgeson on February 10, 2007, 12:47:35 AM
To have one success after another just do the opposite of what the disinformers tell you. Inside the atmosphere create an antigravity cone above your craft, not below it. The atmosphere above the craft with no gravity has no pressure. It's a damn skyhook, it's like riding inside a shell in a gun barrel. This is to warn the gov. when we finish everybody gets it. We warned them not to hide technology. My fingers flying my flag to them. You guys please don't ask we still have major problems,
plasma - ball lightning type problems. The lifter guys are on to something though. Ask them.