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Author Topic: Magnet motor "Carousel"  (Read 2129 times)

Offline BorisKrabow

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Magnet motor "Carousel"
« on: July 16, 2020, 06:36:20 AM »
Hello . Here is the magnetic motor Carousel .
  the principle of operation of a magnetic motor is shielding the magnetic field
in such a way as to create an inequality of forces on different sides of the rotors .
The motor consists of two rotors mounted at an angle . 
For synchronous movement of rotors, magnetic retention of opposite poles of magnets is used .
When the magnetic shield moves from position AB to position A1B1, motor rotation occurs .
Rotation occurs because the receding magnets are covered by a magnetic shield,
and the approaching magnets are attracted without hindrance.

                The design is subject to change. magnets can have the same poles to each other .
the magnetic shield can have many options to achieve efficiency and prevent induction heating .

                                                                                                         To be continued


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Boris

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Magnet motor "Carousel"
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Offline lumen

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2020, 10:21:20 PM »
There may be some chance that this could work if the shield was made from many strips of thin insulated steel, bent in a curve and stacked from the center to the outer radius.
The eddy currents might be less while providing the circumvented field path to lessen the repulsion on the compression side of rotation.






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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2020, 10:39:22 AM »
Hi lumen ,
 Good idea . Short segments will reduce losses due to induction currents .
   You can go further, put a coil for each short segment . Convert the magnetic shield into a generator stator   :)  .

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Offline BorisKrabow

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2020, 11:13:54 AM »
If you need a lot of heat .
     Induction heating can be used .
            for this you need to put the radiators on a magnetic shield .
  You also need a fan on the axis of the magnetic motor .
                                                                                                        Now you can start the party  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2020, 03:26:59 PM »
You should first work on just getting something to run by itself.
I can see several problems that cause this not to operate (besides the fact that it's impossible)


The segments you show are in the wrong direction and should follow the curve to continue to work as a field conductor to circumvent the field from reaching the opposing magnets.
Using two shields with a spacer will also reduce the field connection to the opposing fields.
The worst problem is that when magnets are in opposition, they will resist leaving the shield and will pull back preventing operation as thought.


If the magnets were in attraction, then they will attract less to the shield but this causes the same problem in reverse since they would attract more to the shield when leaving individually.
In attraction, the shield should also follow the rotor angle as not to work as a magnetic ramp to pull back.
I see this design is working in attraction which helps avoid some mechanical linkage problems but a shield is never just a shield to the magnet.

So the problems are very complex and so far have always resulted in failure of operation.

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Offline BorisKrabow

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2020, 09:06:21 PM »
Hi lumen , I agree with your arguments .
   I like challenging tasks because solving them is a fun game   :) .
this design allows many changes , in order to fix problems (if problems are found).
     I created this design so that many magnets were simultaneously engaging at close range.
   This gives a lot of energy to overcome the magnetic locka ( pair of magnets).
  if the magnets forcefully enter the magnetic shield, then they come out with acceleration .
  This adds the chances of self-rotation.   ;D


                                                   If many measures fail.
                                                          I'm already thinking about V 4, which has no magnetic shield. There is a special Version B .
                                                                 a small hint of version B, see the picture

Regards,
 Boris

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2020, 07:14:51 PM »
Hi ! I have Variant 2 ,  the poles are near . This design gives an advantage , because the magnet weakens next to the magnetic shield. The reason is the shorting of the poles due to which the magnet loses strength.
 Now it will be easier to overcome the resistance of magnetic forces
                                                   Magnetic motor parameters are improved .



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 Boris

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Offline ramset

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2020, 07:59:33 PM »
Boris

Sir

recently a member stated that freezing magnets can somehow be used to make a magnet motor "appear" to work
have you ever come across this possibility [he does not seem to want to explain ??]
or do you consider this an accurate claim ?
thx for sharing your thoughts here [and build /testing
with gratitude
Chet K

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 01:34:58 AM »
Hi Chet K !  I have not dealt with freezing magnets . I know a little .
     There are several phenomena under this name.
  1 magnets change strength with temperature
  2 at a certain temperature, a magnet can give a narrowly directed beam of a magnetic field
    (  it drives magnetic motors with tilted magnets  )
  3  frozen superconducting magnets have a magnetic field that is separate from the magnet
  4 there is instant cooling technology with magnetic field and inductive action
      ( using the Curie point controls the magnetic shield )
  5 there is scientific work on frozen magnetic fluxes ( sometimes found by Google ) I haven't studied it .

               These technologies are not for garage .


Best regards ,
 Boris

   

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 08:50:09 AM »
Hi !  Work continues  :) .

          Before I start, it must be said that when themagnets will end the attraction, they come to the neutralization sector with the help of laminated steel.

           V3
       When the magnets are in the magnetic neutralization zone , it is possible to turn the magnet to the "low interaction" position.
The magnet is rotated 90 degrees on one rotor . then the magnet moves until the reverse turn at the next zero point .Thus, we have a large gain in mechanical energy. One of the ways of implementation is the magnetic sector located behind one rotor. at the end of this operation, the rotor magnets will be set in the desired position due to the action of the forces of mutual attraction .
         
 V4   when the attraction ends, then the magnets are set in the "Repulsion" position  ...   8)     


                                                                              There is a lot of work in this project for engineers, designers and technologists.


Best regards,
 Boris               

                                                                                 
                   



     

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 10:17:44 AM »
Boris  My post above timed out so I could not respond there [with thank you for answering about Triangles liquid nitrogen comment in Yaldiz motor [ https://overunity.com/8870/muammer-yildiz-magnet-motor/msg548244/#new   post 790 ]
IMO understanding how that could work [even if a trick] still interesting engineering discussion towards a much better understanding.

Thanks again and for sharing your work.[ there are many curious hoping to learn here]

Chet K


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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2020, 07:41:00 PM »
Hi !    Today we have an example of the use of exotic materials in magnetic motors .

               We have a magnetic piston moving in a cylinder of non-magnetic material  ( watch the picture ) ,
       on the opposite side of the cylinder there is a ferromagnetic material with a low Curie point .
     The ferromagnetic properties of such a material disappear at a temperature slightly above room temperature.
   When a magnetic cylinder is attracted to a ferromagnet, it compresses the air in the cylinder.
    The air heats up from compression and causes the ferromagnetic to lose its properties .
     When the piston moves in the opposite direction,
       it does not experience attraction since the ferromagnetic properties are lost for some time.
       At the same time, the air expands, returning the energy spent on compression .
              Thus, we receive additional energy.
           the time after which a change in the properties of this material occurs can have a wide range.
         Thus, you can change the speed of rotation of this motor.
   

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2020, 10:42:15 PM »
Hi ! 

                Here is the  E - Carousel  ( Version B ) . Electromagnets are used. The design of the engine admits an analogy with automobile generators where rotor magnetization with low losses is applied .
                    The E - Carousel can have many different coil and magnet arrangements .

                    how effective can tests show .

Regards
               

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2020, 11:44:11 PM »
Hi Chet K !  I have not dealt with freezing magnets . I know a little .
     There are several phenomena under this name.
  1 magnets change strength with temperature
  2 at a certain temperature, a magnet can give a narrowly directed beam of a magnetic field
    (  it drives magnetic motors with tilted magnets  )
  3  frozen superconducting magnets have a magnetic field that is separate from the magnet
  4 there is instant cooling technology with magnetic field and inductive action
      ( using the Curie point controls the magnetic shield )
  5 there is scientific work on frozen magnetic fluxes ( sometimes found by Google ) I haven't studied it .

               These technologies are not for garage .


Best regards ,
 Boris

 

This attached file is one approach of lowering the temperature of the magnets in a motor assembly.  When the parts need to be cooled are rotating, then this may be helpful for you.  The materials need to be thermal conductive at the same time non-magnetic.  There are other ways, but it is good to look at all of your options.

The Lunkster

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Re: Magnet motor "Carousel"
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2020, 12:20:23 AM »
Hello . Here is the magnetic motor Carousel .
  the principle of operation of a magnetic motor is shielding the magnetic field
in such a way as to create an inequality of forces on different sides of the rotors .
The motor consists of two rotors mounted at an angle . 
For synchronous movement of rotors, magnetic retention of opposite poles of magnets is used .
When the magnetic shield moves from position AB to position A1B1, motor rotation occurs .
Rotation occurs because the receding magnets are covered by a magnetic shield,
and the approaching magnets are attracted without hindrance.

                The design is subject to change. magnets can have the same poles to each other .
the magnetic shield can have many options to achieve efficiency and prevent induction heating .

                                                                                                         To be continued


Regards ,
Boris

I have tried to find magnetic shielding material to use with motor designs.
I built the attached the following test fixture to do that.
It may save you some time to test the materials in a fixture before building a prototype.

I wish you the best!

The Lunkester

 

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