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Author Topic: highway magnets charging hybrid batteries through electromagnetic induction  (Read 6458 times)

Offline jbm

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Hi all,
   I'm no expert in physics, but I had an idea:
   If permanent magnets were embedded in the pavement of roads, it should be possible, at last in principle, to recharge hybrid batteries as cars drive over the magnets - using electromagentic induction.

   My first question is: does the generated EMF have a "push back" force that works against the car?  For example, if you pass a magnet through a coil of wire with your hand, do you have to push a little harder than if the wire wasn't there?  If so, what is the size of the "push-back" force with respect to the generated EMF?

   My physics is pretty poor, so I need help with this one.

   Even if it is a viable idea, the cost of putting the magnets in the pavement and adding the necessary electronics to hybrid cars would probably be tremendous.  Of course, the environmental and national security consequences of doing nothing is also tremendous.

Joe

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Offline shipto

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the first problem I see in that idea is that you would get piles of junk gathered around the magnets, bits of rust etc.

Offline Paul-R

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I think that the dreaded Lenz's Law will rear its head.

But, if instead of passive magnets, you put an elctromagnetic
coil, and induce an EMF in a coil in the vehicle, then it will
work - but no OU pretentions. Simply a good way to recharge
batteries on the move at the expensive of whoever is
putting the power into the coils in the road. Possibly roadside
windmills.
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Offline ring_theory

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For electromagnetic induction it is better to put the field through the center of the induction coil. This is the problem with induction.

How to drive multiple magnetic flux fields through induction coils cyclic?

The answer is simple A toroid multipole armature. see fully baked innovation.


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FR 2239802,page 1 : Laplace Law

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Offline ring_theory

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FR 2239802,page 1 : Laplace Law

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How does this apply to either system? My mechanism does in some small way depend on fluid dynamics in a supersolid way, however  this type of pressures are not involved.

Offline lancaIV

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Visit the patent-archiv and enter with "Christofilos" !
You will find electron/ion beamer !
S
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p.s.: In the 70/80ies in California  has been a test on a
highway with such an induction system like you describe ,
probably their trial success/error findings can help you !
Newer information:
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« Last Edit: January 01, 2007, 04:22:58 PM by lancaIV »

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Offline hadner

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Putting magnets on the road should create more drag on the car than you would gain from it.  Unless you were travelling downhill, and could gain back some portion of the power it took to get up the hill in the first place. 

That being said, most electric cars should already have an internal system that adds power back into the system when braking and going downhill.  So there isn't any need for magnets on the highway.

Sorry,
Hadner

 

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