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Offline Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2020, 04:53:24 AM »
I invented this diametric piston "Kundel" transmission; A natural power storage and spring action release mechanism. This power throw ratio may dovetail well with the shield rotor forces. Good observation!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6DzQOn4RTc

I searched "kundel" and found this @ ...

                              https://www.kundelmagnetics.com/



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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2020, 05:17:27 AM »
@ All readers

Note...

These magnets devices are complex oscillating systems.

In some ways these solid / real world, magnets and their interactions,
give us analogies for other / related electromagnetic interactions / oscillating /
resonating circuits.

we see @

https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/msg547717/#msg547717
                a limitation in the functioning of a specific magnet interaction.

If the LOAD on the output is sufficiently light / unmatched, a quick withdrawal of the
shield magnet would cause much energy waste.
             i.e.  latching of the output must occur in order to prevent that energy loss.
                                                 however
If the LOAD on the output is sufficiently heavy / matched, a quick withdrawal of the
shield magnet is possible without much energy loss
             i.e. no "latching" of the output   or    in other words the load    is    the latching.

  best wishes
     floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2020, 04:50:13 PM »
This is a diagram of what I term "luc's force".
                 It will play into the interactions.

You can get a look at it in the   "MagForShldComplex 2-1.PNG"   drawing below
                                            also
               The first 2 minutes of this video....
          @      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0i61        "Floor's balancing neutralization"
                                     and these videos
          @      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d7hdv      "Luc's 1"
          @      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d7ip9       "Luc's 2"

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2020, 07:18:22 PM »
For a look.....

With an applied  initial / peak force of 115 grams and an average force of 80 grams over the 6.144 mm as input, 
                        the twist drive as configured in the videos ....
will lift a constant 140 grams by 11.172 mm.

It converts linear motion into rotation at more than 200 % efficiency  (it is O.U.). 
                                                  But
When reversed (output mode becomes the input) it coverts rotation into linear motion
at over 200 % less than unity (under unity)

When operated cyclically the work is done then undone (no net gain).

                   @              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

degrees on the scales converted to linear motion

0.27930 mm per degree

0.27930 x 22 degrees = 6.1446 mm

0.27930 x 40 degrees = 11.172 mm

                              seealso  the strange T. D. interaction in a drawing form @

https://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/msg543594/#msg543594

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2020, 12:17:23 AM »
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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2020, 05:33:00 AM »
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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2020, 05:57:37 AM »
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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2020, 06:02:58 AM »

... .... ..... .......

SEE BOTTOM OF PAGE 8
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https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/msg547863/#msg547863

... .... ..... ......
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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #83 on: July 12, 2020, 04:23:15 PM »
@Synchro

A rebellion against some thing or some idea, is still a product of and
conditioned by, that which is being rejected.

One of the reasons (I think) we don't see magnet motors every where
is that,
                                 If
we simply reject  "the impossibility of Perpetual motion",
we have already limited our thinking to an image of O.U. as meaning
a device which is in constant or continuous motion. i.e  perpetual... motion.
                                   Devilish isn't it ?

mechanical work per unit of time = power
                             Or
energy per unit of time = power

work = force x displacement  (discounting acceleration against inertia)
                            Or
kinetic energy = 1/2 x mass x velocity squared
(as energy to cause acceleration against inertia)

Commonly, designers seek to improve the energy efficiency of mechanical
devices through circular momentum.  This is because it requires an input of
energy to accelerate an object against its inertia. 

It CAN be tremendously wasteful to accelerate an object over and over again,
                                    If
we can instead  maintain its momentum by a circular motion.
                                             But
the greater the mass of ...
               And
the greater the speed to which we accelerate an object to ....
               Then
the greater also, is the amount of energy we expend to cause that objects
acceleration
                                            But.
                                 Don't be in a hurry !

If we trade off
high speed
               for instead ...
high force ...
(and keep the mass low as possible).

we can avoid wasting energy in accelerations AS EFFICIENTLY AS IF WE WERE
MAINTAINING CONSTANT THE MOMENTUM !

                                  high force but slow moving

                                Then
convert it to high speed rotational later if we so desire !
« Last Edit: July 12, 2020, 09:22:09 PM by Floor »

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2020, 09:18:32 PM »
@ Synchro 1

Addendum
 
I do not claim expertise in magnets and its not for me to say,
what can and cannot be done.

The exchanges with you, exposure to your informations, designs
and ideas have been worth while.

You are welcome to continue your explorations here if you so desire.

   Thanks and
       kind regards
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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2020, 10:14:24 PM »
@ All readers

Drop these assumptions if you want to understand the
                      "floor's magnets"
                              designs.

FALSE and yet almost always assumed as to what would be
needed in order for a mechanical magnetic device to self run :
 
Error 1. the device must have continuous motion in order to self run.
Error 2. the device must involve rotation in order to self run.

                We want it to self run, right ?
.... ..... ..... ...... .........
                                       NEXT
                  Because it would be easy to waste energy.

If one wishes to store energy from the output of a magnetic interaction, by
placing it into a mechanical spring, one would do well to consider these facts.

                        Given two magnets in REPULSION.
Magnet forces and spring forces, peaks, in their force to distance curves
                             are out of synchronization.

magnet
           force is greatest at the beginning of the repulsion (near)

                                   in contrast

spring
          force is greatest at the end of a springs compression
                           also
         force is greatest at the end of a springs stretch
... .... ..... ...... .......
                                NEXT
Between a given two permanent magnets, the attraction possible is almost always greater
than the repulsion possible.

Although in the context of the discussion of the balancing of magnetic attraction
force with magnetic repelling force, I frequently refer to attractions as being equal
to repulsions,
                           that balance generally, must be created by design.
... .... ..... ...... .......
                                NEXT
All for now..

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #86 on: July 14, 2020, 01:17:08 AM »
@ all readers
                                 NEXT

All told, these "floor's" topics have presented about 6 major variations in magnet powered design.
There are AT LEAST another 6, minor variations discussed in various topics.

Below are INCOMPLETE descriptive drawings of 4 of those designs.   

All of those designs (drawings below) are of a .......

START an action, COMPLETE that action , STOP that action ......

BEFORE a next action begins type (SCS).   

I think it is a given, that even within these "SCS" designs, if built efficiently enough, it might still be
workable, if some component were to be nearly complete in its motion, just as some other component's motion begins.  Be that as it may, I don't know to what advantage this would be.

There are yet other designs in which rotational and continuous motion elements are involved.  These are not discussed here.


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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2020, 02:49:24 AM »
@ Synchro1

Its been thirty days for you to toss around design variations.

Will you give us one good shot of a set of explanation of how the device
should function.
i.e.
                      What it is intended to do. 
                            Why it should do it.

Thorough details, a few good drawings (clear) with each component labeled
                 like
explanations of what the various parts are for, why they move,
how they move, in what directions they move and so on,
what causes them to move.

  Last
    call
      are you in or out
          thanks
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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #88 on: July 15, 2020, 08:39:23 AM »
Floor,


I spent a lot of time composing those comments you deleted. This is the last time I will ever post on any of your threads.

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2020, 04:45:06 PM »
    Peace
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