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Author Topic: Floor's Magnets explained  (Read 21313 times)

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2020, 04:01:33 AM »
The only over unity that really counts !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evN6DIGPIJM

   best wishes
          floor
« Last Edit: January 02, 2022, 06:06:15 PM by Floor »

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2020, 06:01:24 AM »

1. Rack and pinyon linkage of output magnets.

2. Output magnets are a single pole on a face.

3. Shield magnets are a single pole on a face.

4. shield magnets mechanically likned / move in unison (left then right in drawing)

5. fine tuneing magnets.



https://overunity.com/18299/mgnetic-shield/dlattach/attach/173871/image//

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2020, 01:01:40 AM »
The design presented by CITFTA, but double / combined units.

below

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2020, 11:18:57 PM »
CITFTA build / rotates

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2020, 05:07:08 PM »
LankaIV posted this link to a patent today @


https://overunity.com/18232/science-and-prediction/msg547667/#msg547667

Sounds like a similar kind of attraction / repulsion force balancing method.

floor

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2020, 07:39:04 AM »
Really cheap build

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2020, 03:56:24 PM »
Why start, complete, stop matters

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2020, 05:17:27 AM »
@ All readers

Note...

These magnets devices are complex oscillating systems.

In some ways these solid / real world, magnets and their interactions,
give us analogies for other / related electromagnetic interactions / oscillating /
resonating circuits.

we see @

https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/msg547717/#msg547717
                a limitation in the functioning of a specific magnet interaction.

If the LOAD on the output is sufficiently light / unmatched, a quick withdrawal of the
shield magnet would cause much energy waste.
             i.e.  latching of the output must occur in order to prevent that energy loss.
                                                 however
If the LOAD on the output is sufficiently heavy / matched, a quick withdrawal of the
shield magnet is possible without much energy loss
             i.e. no "latching" of the output   or    in other words the load    is    the latching.

  best wishes
     floor

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2020, 04:50:13 PM »
This is a diagram of what I term "luc's force".
                 It will play into the interactions.

You can get a look at it in the   "MagForShldComplex 2-1.PNG"   drawing below
                                            also
               The first 2 minutes of this video....
          @      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0i61        "Floor's balancing neutralization"
                                     and these videos
          @      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d7hdv      "Luc's 1"
          @      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d7ip9       "Luc's 2"

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2020, 07:18:22 PM »
For a look.....

With an applied  initial / peak force of 115 grams and an average force of 80 grams over the 6.144 mm as input, 
                        the twist drive as configured in the videos ....
will lift a constant 140 grams by 11.172 mm.

It converts linear motion into rotation at more than 200 % efficiency  (it is O.U.). 
                                                  But
When reversed (output mode becomes the input) it coverts rotation into linear motion
at over 200 % less than unity (under unity)

When operated cyclically the work is done then undone (no net gain).

                   @              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

degrees on the scales converted to linear motion

0.27930 mm per degree

0.27930 x 22 degrees = 6.1446 mm

0.27930 x 40 degrees = 11.172 mm

                              seealso  the strange T. D. interaction in a drawing form @

https://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/msg543594/#msg543594

               regards
                  floor

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2020, 12:17:23 AM »
@ All readers


Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2020, 05:33:00 AM »
Check this out...

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2020, 05:57:37 AM »
high efficiency latch

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2020, 04:23:15 PM »
@Synchro

A rebellion against some thing or some idea, is still a product of and
conditioned by, that which is being rejected.

One of the reasons (I think) we don't see magnet motors every where
is that,
                                 If
we simply reject  "the impossibility of Perpetual motion",
we have already limited our thinking to an image of O.U. as meaning
a device which is in constant or continuous motion. i.e  perpetual... motion.
                                   Devilish isn't it ?

mechanical work per unit of time = power
                             Or
energy per unit of time = power

work = force x displacement  (discounting acceleration against inertia)
                            Or
kinetic energy = 1/2 x mass x velocity squared
(as energy to cause acceleration against inertia)

Commonly, designers seek to improve the energy efficiency of mechanical
devices through circular momentum.  This is because it requires an input of
energy to accelerate an object against its inertia. 

It CAN be tremendously wasteful to accelerate an object over and over again,
                                    If
we can instead  maintain its momentum by a circular motion.
                                             But
the greater the mass of ...
               And
the greater the speed to which we accelerate an object to ....
               Then
the greater also, is the amount of energy we expend to cause that objects
acceleration
                                            But.
                                 Don't be in a hurry !

If we trade off
high speed
               for instead ...
high force ...
(and keep the mass low as possible).

we can avoid wasting energy in accelerations AS EFFICIENTLY AS IF WE WERE
MAINTAINING CONSTANT THE MOMENTUM !

                                  high force but slow moving

                                Then
convert it to high speed rotational later if we so desire !
« Last Edit: July 12, 2020, 09:22:09 PM by Floor »

Floor

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Re: Floor's Magnets explained
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2020, 10:14:24 PM »
@ All readers

Drop these assumptions if you want to understand the
                      "floor's magnets"
                              designs.

FALSE and yet almost always assumed as to what would be
needed in order for a mechanical magnetic device to self run :
 
Error 1. the device must have continuous motion in order to self run.
Error 2. the device must involve rotation in order to self run.

                We want it to self run, right ?
.... ..... ..... ...... .........
                                       NEXT
                  Because it would be easy to waste energy.

If one wishes to store energy from the output of a magnetic interaction, by
placing it into a mechanical spring, one would do well to consider these facts.

                        Given two magnets in REPULSION.
Magnet forces and spring forces, peaks, in their force to distance curves
                             are out of synchronization.

magnet
           force is greatest at the beginning of the repulsion (near)

                                   in contrast

spring
          force is greatest at the end of a springs compression
                           also
         force is greatest at the end of a springs stretch
... .... ..... ...... .......
                                NEXT
Between a given two permanent magnets, the attraction possible is almost always greater
than the repulsion possible.

Although in the context of the discussion of the balancing of magnetic attraction
force with magnetic repelling force, I frequently refer to attractions as being equal
to repulsions,
                           that balance generally, must be created by design.
... .... ..... ...... .......
                                NEXT
All for now..